To prove my statements as usual i will be posting evidence, images, quotes, links to the original text and my own analysis. People only portray karna as a righteous person in order to fool the common man into worshiping and respecting karna.
- Incident 1 - KARNA OFFERS 100 YOUNG FEMALES TO THE PERSON WHO FINDS ARJUNA, EVEN READY TO GIVE HIS WIFE TO THAT PERSON: To him that will discover Dhananjaya to me, I shall also give a hundred female slaves, with golden collars, belonging to the country of the Magadhas, and of very youthful age. If that does not satisfy the person that discovers Arjuna to me, I will make him a more valuable gift, that, indeed, which he himself will solicit. Sons, wives and articles of pleasure and enjoyment that I have, these all I shall give him if he desires them. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08038.htm
- Here Karna must be talking about the city Malini of Magadha which Jarasandha gave Karna. So Karna must be smuggling women from Anga to Magadha, and making them slaves, later distributing them among people, just as he was going to distribute it to the person who informs him of Arjuna.
- And why is it mostly young girls that Karna sells? Probably because those girls are sold for prostitution. So not just slavery their is also prostitution that Karna indulged in. Because a slave has no rights. Their masters can do whatever they want with them. When karna sells slaves he only sees his own profit not the slaves.
- Some Karna fans like to say that Karna was just joking. According to them he was mocking the Pandavas soldiers. According to them he was doing this to boost up the morale and confidence of his own army.
- BUT when someone make such a claim a question immediately comes into mind. How could an army be confident and proud and courageous in battle when it's leader (Karna) offers his own sons, slaves and even wives to ordinary soldiers and troops of the enemy army? How could they feel safe in his hands? This argument of karna fans in itself is a joke. This is just a pathetic attempt to save karna's character from abashment. It's just pathetic.
- HE TRIED TO BRIBE A BRAHMANA TO NOT CURSE HIM BY OFFERING TO GIVE HIM HUNDREDS OF SLAVES BOTH MALE AND FEMALE: I was then for giving him seven hundred elephants of large tusks and many hundred of slaves male and female. That foremost of brahmana would not still be gratified. Collecting next full 14,000 kine, each black in hue and having a white calf I was still unable to obtain the grace of that best of brahmana. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08042.htm
- Note some foolish karna fans try to say that what karna was meant to say was that no matter what he would give to the Brahamna still the Brahmana would not be gratified. But in actuality Karna directly offered these slaves to the Brahmana. He was all for it giving slaves to the Brahmana.
- Karna was clearly not just talking about giving them to the Brahmana or saying "if he did then still Brahmana won't be satisfied" he collected fourteen thousand cows to sell for his safety from the curse - Collecting next full 14,000 kine, each black in hue and having a white calf I was still unable to obtain the grace of that best of brahmana. Karna Parva: Section 42
- So basically stop making excuses for Karna because he was clearly one of the most ardent practice rs of slavery in Mahabharata.
- KARNA USED TO DONATE WOMEN INSTEAD OF FOOD AND CLOTH : :P -"And when the king of the celestials presented himself in the guise of a Brahmana, beholding him, Kama said, 'Welcome!' And not knowing his intention, Adhiratha's son addressed the Brahmana, saying, 'Of a necklace of gold, and beauteous damsels, and villages with plenty of kine, which shall I give thee?' Thereupon the Brahmana replied, 'I ask thee not to give me either a necklace of gold, or fair damsels, or any other agreeable object. To those do thou give them that ask for them. If, O sinless one, thou art sincere in thy vow, then wilt thou, cutting off (from thy person) this coat of mail born with thy body, and these ear-rings also, bestow them on me! I desire, O chastiser of foes, that thou mayst speedily give me these; for, this one gain of mine will be considered as superior to every other gain!' Hearing these words, Kama, said, 'O Brahmana, I will give thee homestead land, and fair damsels, and kine, and fields; but my mail and ear-rings I am unable to give thee!'" www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03308.htm
- Note Kama means Karna as it is Adhiratha's son and he is described with having a coat of mail and ear-rings. Karna has been called as "Kama" many times.
- Definition of damsels - a young unmarried woman.
- Note over here Karna did not even know what his client's intentions were: And not knowing his intention, Adhiratha's son addressed the Brahmana, saying, 'Of a necklace of gold, and beauteous damsels, and villages with plenty of kine, which shall I give thee?'
- Hahahah... Lol just LOL! Usually people who are charitable and givers give away food, clothes, water, wealth and property as donations. But however Karna the great did business with young girls and slaves.
- So again it is not just slavery but also prostitution that Karna indulged in. What other use would he have for donating young unmarried women as slaves? What purpose would such ladies serve as a slave? He even praised their physical appearances saying they were "beauteous", indicating he sold them for sex.
- Karna enslaves his own women his own wives.
- Karna said compared to his love for the Sun god Surya his wives are nothing - 'As thou, O lord of splendour, knowest me for thy worshipper, so also thou knowest that there is nothing which I cannot give away in charity, O thou of fiery rays! Neither my wives, nor my sons, nor my own self, nor my friends, are so dear to me as thou, on
account of the veneration I feel for thee, O lord of splendour! Thou knowest, O maker of light, that high-souled persons bear a loving regard for their dear worshippers. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03300.htm He also says he is not lying here - Karna revereth me and is dear to me. He knoweth no other deity in heaven, thinking this thou hast, O lord, said unto me what is for my benefit. Yet, O thou of bright rays, again do Ibeseech thee with bended head, again do I place myself in thy hands. I will repeat the answer I have already given. It behoveth thee to forgive me! Death itself is not fraught with such terrors for me as untruth! http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03300.htm- Karna said he would cast away/abandon his wife and children just for Duryodhana: "Like Vasudeva's son who is firmly resolved for the sake of the Pandavas, I also, O thou that makest profuse presents to Brahmanas, am prepared to cast away my possessions, my body itself, my children, and my wife, for Duryodhana's sake!" http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m06/m06124.htm
- He would offer his wives as slaves to soldiers whose names he didn't even know: If that does not satisfy the person that discovers Arjuna to me, I will make him a more valuable gift, that, indeed, which he himself will solicit. Sons, wives and articles of pleasure and enjoyment that I have, these all I shall give him if he desires them. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08038.htm
- If he sells his own wives and sons then why is it so hard for people to believe that he sold ordinary women and men who were his subjects? What to speak of them?
- KARNA KIDNAPPED OTHER PRINCESSES FOR DURYODHANA!
- Bhishma to Karna: O Karna, proceeding to the city of Kasi, alone with thy bow, thou hadst crushed the kings in battle for procuring a bride for the Kuru king! http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m06/m06124.htm
- This was told by Bhishma while he was on his deathbed. So a person who is dying may not be lying.
- A part of biography of Karna told by Narada to Yudhishthira after Karna's pitiful death mentions this: Possessed of great lightness of hands, Karna, that foremost of all smiters, afflicted them all. He deprived many kings of their drivers and thus vanquished all those lords of earth. They then themselves took up the reins of their steeds, and saying, 'Go away, go away', turned away from the battle with cheerless hearts. Protected by Karna, Duryodhana also came away, with a joyous heart, bringing with him the maiden to the city called after the elephant.'" http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m12/m12a004.htm
- Duryodhana kidnapped a princess to make her his wife but he RELIED ON Karna for this. so Karna supported kidnapping of princesses openly.
- AFTER ALL OF THIS SO MUCH PROOF, SO MUCH EVIDENCE, CONFESSIONS OF KARNA HIMSELF, DO YOU ALL STILL DENY SHALYA'S CLAIM?
- Just like how Shalya was the one who had the last word in the heated debate between him and Karna on day 17. So do those who argue AGAINST Karna's fans have the last word in debates.
- Karna offered a smile to Shalya indicating that he has no shame of being a practitioner of slavery.
- Shalya also says that Bhishma himself labeled Karna's faults during the tale of Rathas and Atirathas.
- The end of the debate between Shalya and Karna is down below.
"Sanjaya continued, 'Then king Duryodhana stopped Karna and Shalya (from going on with their wordy warfare), addressing the son of Radha as a friend, and beseeching Shalya with joined hands, Karna, O sire, was quieted by thy son and forbore saying anything more. Shalya also then faced the enemy. Then Radha's son, smiling, once more urged Shalya, saying, "Proceed."'" www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08045.htm (chapter link)
Now the conclusion? Well it should be perfectly obvious, it should be clear as water. Karna had a dandha, a business, he was a pimp. He wasn't just ready to sell his own people, his subjects, his slaves, young women, but also his own sons AND WIVES! By smiling to Shalya he himself accepted that Shalya was telling the truth. He clearly has no shame......
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