Sunday, February 12, 2017

All of Karna's defeats

ALL OF KARNA'S DEFEATS.
Karna fans often claim some b u l l s h i t. That their hero was undefeated. But the fact is that he has always lost. And after these losses he never truly improved after he lost. No other character in Mahabharata has ever suffered as many defeats Karna did in his military career. So whenever you see someone clam Karna is an undefeated warrior. Expose them by showing them this post.

1) BEFORE KURUKSHETRA WAR
Here is a list of his defeats BEFORE Kurukshetra war. As a matter of fact BEFORE Kurukshetra Karna did not have any curses hampering him, Karna had no promise to not kill his half brothers, to the contrary karna had his celestial coat of mail the kavacha kundala to help him out. So this should be Karna at his best, if you can even call it that since he lost too many times.

  1. Karna lost to Drupada - Meanwhile Drupada beholding the Kuru host, rushed forward and pouring a fierce shower of arrows around, terribly afflicted the Kuru ranks. And such was his lightness of motion on the field of battle that, though he was fighting unsupported on a single chariot, the Kurus from panic supposed that there were many Drupadas opposed to them. And the fierce arrows of that monarch fell fast on all sides, till conchs and trumpets and drums by thousands began to be sounded by the Panchalas from their houses (giving the alarm). Then there arose from the mighty Panchala host a roar terrible as that of the lion, while the twang of their bow-strings seemed to rend the very heavens. Then Duryodhana and Vikarna, Suvahu and Dirghalochana and Duhsasana becoming furious, began to shower their arrows upon the enemy. But the mighty bowman, Prishata's son, invincible in battle, though very much pierced with the arrows of the enemy, instantly began, O Bharata, to afflict the hostile ranks with greater vigour. And careering over the field of battle like a fiery wheel, king Drupada with his arrows smote Duryodhana and Vikarna and even the mighty Karna and many other heroic princes and numberless warriors, and slaked their thirst for battle. Then all the citizens showered upon the Kurus various missiles like clouds showering rain-drops upon the earth. Young and old, they all rushed to battle, assailing the Kurus with vigour. The Kauravas, then, O Bharata, beholding the battle become frightful, broke and fled wailing towards the Pandavas. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m01/m01141.htm 
    1. So Karna despite having his kavacha kundala was defeated. Karna had 101 Kaurava brothers supporting him yet he was still defeated by one Drupada. Karna had numerous other warriors helping him yet he still lost.
  2. Karna was tied up and captured by Pradyumna (the son of Krishna) at Dwaraka - the powerful son of kR^iShNa, (pradyumna), at the front of the battle, oppressed karNa who was trying hard for victory in the battlefield and caught him, who was struggling. vinadya cha guhAM vIro ghorAM mAyAmayIM nR^ipa | duryodhanaM cha rAjAnaM virATadrupadAvapi ||2-84-48 O king! (janamejaya! vaishampAyana continued) and threw him into the terrible cave of illusion. In the same way (he caught) king duryodhana, virATa, drupada, www.mahabharata-resources.org/harivamsa/vishnuparva/hv_2_084.html 
    1. Karna attacked Krishna's territory at the same time Jarasandha was alive. So Karna had his kavacha kundala at the time. Yet Karna was still defeated. And Pradyumna's father Krishna was almost 20 years younger than Karna. So Karna was defeated by a warrior who was 40 years younger than him.
  3.  Karna defeated by Arjuna (disguised as a Brahmana at the time) during Draupadi's swayamvara - And beholding those Kshatriyas who were ever furious in battle with Karna ahead, the heroic brothers rushed fearlessly at them like two elephants rushing against a hostile elephant. Then those monarchs eager for the fight fiercely exclaimed, 'The slaughter in battle of one desiring to fight is permitted.' And saying this, the monarchs suddenly rushed against the Brahmanas. And Karna endued with great energy rushed against Jishnu for fight. And Salya the mighty king of Madra rushed against Bhima like an elephant rushing against another for the sake of a she-elephant in heat; while Duryodhana and others engaged with the Brahmanas, skirmished with them lightly and carelessly. Then the illustrious Arjuna beholding Karna, the son of Vikartana (Surya), advancing towards him, drew his tough bow and pieced him with his sharp arrows. And the impetus of those whetted arrows furnished with fierce energy made Radheya (Karna) faint. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m01/m01193.htm
  4. Karna accepts his defeat at the hands of Arjuna and compares him to his preceptor Parshuram and runs away from the swayamvara - Art thou the embodiment of the science of weapons, or art thou Rama that best of Brahmanas, or Indra himself, or Indra's younger brother Vishnu called also Achyuta, who for disguising himself hath assumed the form of a Brahmana and mustering such energy of arms fighteth with me? No other person except the husband himself of Sachi or Kiriti, the son of Pandu, is capable of fighting with me when I am angry on the field of battle.' Then hearing those words of his, Phalguna replied, saying, 'O Karna, I am neither the science of arms (personified), nor Rama endued with superhuman powers. I am only a Brahmana who is the foremost of all warriors and all wielders of weapons. By the grace of my preceptor I have become accomplished in the Brahma and the Paurandara weapons. I am here to vanquish thee in battle. Therefore, O hero, wait a little.' "Vaisampayana continued, 'Thus addressed (by Arjuna), Karna the adopted son of Radha desisted from the fight, for that mighty chariot-fighter thought that Brahma energy is ever invincible. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m01/m01193.htm
  5. Karna lost to Bhima during the Rajasuya wars - And making the earth tremble by means of his troops consisting of the four kinds of forces, the foremost of the Pandavas then encountered Karna that slayer of foes. And, O Bharata, having subjugated Karna and brought him under his sway, the mighty hero then vanquished the powerful king of the mountainous regions. And the son of Pandu then slew in a fierce encounter, by the strength of his arms, the mighty king who dwelt in Madagiri. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m02/m02029.htm 
    1. Karna had his kavacha kundala, yet he was still defeated. His kingdom was conquered and he was subjugated. Made to pay tribute to the Pandavas.
    2. Some Karna fans have come up with very stupid theories to say that the  Karna was subjugated was a "different" Karna. But Bori critical edition's scholar's make it very clear that the Karna who was subjugated was the Karna of Anga. For more information check out this blog. http://logicastra.blogspot.com/2017/02/proof-that-bhima-conquered-karnas-anga.html The evidence that i have gathered to conclude this incident is overwhelming. And it's all pretty much in that blog post.
  6. Karna lost to Gandharvas - Indeed, Duryodhana and Karna and Sakuni, the son of Suvala, all fought with the Gandharvas, although every one of them was much wounded and mangled in the encounter. All the Gandharvas then, desirous of slaying Karna, rushed together by hundreds and thousands towards Karna. And those mighty warriors, desirous of slaying the Suta's son, surrounded him on all sides, with swords and battle-axes and spears. And some cut down the yoke of his car, and some his flagstaff, and some the shaft of his car, and some his horses, and some his charioteer. And some cut down his umbrella and some the wooden fender round his car and some the joints of his car. It was thus that many thousands of Gandharvas, together attacking his car, broke it into minute fragments. And while his car was thus attacked, Karna leaped therefrom with sword and shield in hand, and mounting on Vikarna's car, urged the steeds for saving himself." http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03239.htm
    1. Since Karna had his kavacha kundala and yet he still ran away to save himself like a coward. So this is the sixth and final defeat of Karna while he had his kavacha kundala. So it should be obvious by now that kavacha kundala was just a really good armor that was NOT IMPENETRABLE. Kavacha kundala was not something that could save karna from death or defeat.
    2. Karna himself accepted that he was still mangled and assailed by the enemies and their shafts despite having his armor and earrings - As regards myself, assailed by all the Gandharvas, I fled before thy eyes, unable to rally our flying host. Assailed by the foe with all his might, my body mangled with their arrows, I sought safety in flight. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03245.htm
  7. Virata Parva Karna gets defeated and runs away like a dog from Arjuna - And the two heroes stationed on their cars, creating clouds of keen-edged arrows in a combat carried on by means of countless shafts and weapons, appeared to the spectators like the sun and the moon covered by clouds, and the light-handed Karna, unable to bear the sight of the foe, pierced the four horses of the diadem-decked hero with whetted arrows, and then struck his car-driver with three shafts, and his flagstaff also with three. Thus struck, that grinder of all adversaries in battle, that bull of the Kuru race, Jishnu wielding the Gandiva, like a lion awaked from slumber, furiously attacked Kama by means of straight-going arrows. And afflicted by the arrowy shower (of Karna), that illustrious achiever of super-human deeds soon displayed a thick shower of arrows in return. And he covered Karna's car with countless shafts like the sun covering the different worlds with rays. And like a lion attacked by an elephant, Arjuna, taking some keen crescent-shaped arrows from out of his quiver and drawing his bow to his ear, pierced the Suta's son on every part of his body. And that grinder of foes pierced Karna's arms and thighs and head and forehead and neck and other principal parts of his body with whetted shafts endued with the impetuosity of the thunderbolt and shot from the Gandiva in battle. And mangled and afflicted by the arrows shot by Partha the son of Pandu, Vikartana's son, quitted the van of battle, and quickly took to flight, like one elephant vanquished by another.'" http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m04/m04054.htm
    1. Arjuna even kills Karna's foster brother here - And soon slaying the red steeds yoked unto the car of Sangramajit, the brother of Vikatana's son, that hero decked in diadem and endued with great vigour then cut off his antagonist's head by a crescent-shaped arrow. And when his brother was slain, Vikartana's son of the Suta caste, mustering all his prowess, rushed at Arjuna, like a huge elephant with out-stretched tusks, or like a tiger at a mighty bull. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m04/m04054.htm
    2. So Karna clearly would have been very pissed off over here and would not have shown any mercy at all. He had no curses over here, no promises what so ever.
  8. Arjuna defeats Karna again (Karna was fighting with several others on his side supporting him) - And Arjuna then shot three and seventy arrows of sharp points at Drona, and ten at Dussaha and eight at Drona's son, and twelve at Dussasana, and three at Kripa, the son of Saradwat. And that slayer of foes pierced Bhishma, the son of Santanu, with arrows, and king Duryodhana with a hundred. And, lastly, he pierced Karna in the ear with a bearded shaft. And when that great bowmen Karna, skilled in all weapons, was thus pierced, and his horses and car and car-driver were all destroyed, the troops that supported him began to break. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m04/m04055.htm
  9. Karna lost to Arjuna again and runs away - And then the mighty-armed Partha cut off Karna's bow into fragments. And Karna replied by hurling a dart at his adversary, but Arjuna cut it off by means of his arrows. And then the warriors that followed the son of Radha rushed in crowds at Arjuna, but Partha sent them all to the abode of Yama by means of arrows shot from the Gandiva. And Vibhatsu slew the steeds of Karna by means of sharp and tough arrows shot from the bow-string drawn to the ear, and deprived of life they dropped down on the ground. And taking another sharp and blazing arrow endued with great energy, the mighty son of Kunti pierced the breast of Kama. And that arrow, cleaving through his mail, penetrated into his body. And at this, Karna's vision was obscured and his senses left him. And regaining consciousness, he felt a great pain, and leaving the combat fled in a northernly direction. And at this, the mighty car-warrior Arjuna and Uttara, both began to address him contumely.'" http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m04/m04060.htm
    1. Note the abode of Yama means the afterlife as in they are dead. Yama is the god of death in Mahabharata.
  10. Karna finally becomes unconscious by the Sanmohana weapon of Arjuna and his yellow garments are stolen - And warding off with weapons, all the weapons of those bulls among the Kurus, the wielder of the Gandiva who was capable of enduring all foes, evolved another irresistible weapon obtained from Indra, called Sanmohana. And entirely covering the cardinal and other directions with sharp and keen-edged arrows furnished with beautiful feathers, that mighty hero stupefied their senses with the twang of the Gandiva. And once more, taking up with both his hands that large conch of loud blare, Partha, that slayer of foes, blew it with force and filled the cardinal and other points, the whole earth, and sky, with that noise. And those foremost of the Kuru heroes were all deprived of their senses by the sound of that conch blown by Partha. And all of them stood still, their bows, from which they were never separated, dropping down from their hands. And when the Kuru army became insensible, Partha calling to mind the words of Uttara, addressed the son of the Matsya king, saying, 'O best of men, go thou among the Kurus, so long as they remain insensible, and bring away the white garments of Drona and Kripa, and the yellow and handsome ones of Karna, as also the blue ones of the king and Drona's son. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m04/m04065.htm
  • Of all the above ones only defeats 7, 8, 9 and 10 are Karna AFTER he exchanged his Kavacha Kundala for the Vasavi dart. STILL having kavacha kundala, several warriors supporting him etc. He was still defeated by old kings (Drupada), musicians (Gandharvas), and children (Pradyumna). Is this the UNDEFEATED warrior? Is this the INVINCIBLE Karna? No this is the REAL Karna. And his military career is horrible, his track record is not good. Arjuna spared Karna many times during Virata Parva. He did not want to kill him so soon. And did not want to kill an unconscious warrior who couldn't defend himself. And this was just a trailer look at the rest below. He is worse than son goku.
2) DURING KURUKSHETRA WAR
Now let's move on to the main crust of the epic tale of his defeats. Let us all see just how many more losses this man faced in his military career. During the last days of his life before his death. Now not just Bhima and Arjuna. But many other Pandava warriors were exposing Karna on the battlefield almost every day during the war. But they never killed him out of fear of Arjuna. Because they did not want to falsify his vow of killing Karna.
  • During the 11th day he spent most of his time fighting old King Virata and a few matsya warriors, their was NO RESULT to their battle that day. BUT during the rest of the days and battles in the war Karna was thoroughly beaten in ever encounter. During the 12th day he mostly took back seat as Drona & Bhagadatta were doing most of the work, but when Bhagadatta was killed by Arjuna then Karna stepped in and got exposed by other Pandava warriors that day. This is the beginning of the end for Karna.
1. Dhrishtadymuna defeats Karna in archery and kills his comrades - Dhrishtadyumna also taking up a sword and a bright shield; despatched Charmavarman and also Vrihatkshatra, the ruler of the Naishadhas. The Panchala prince then, mounting upon his own car and taking up another bow, pierced Karna with three and seventy shafts, and uttered a loud roar. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07030.htm

2. Bhima defeats Karna in archery and kills his relatives - Then Bhima, jumping down from his own car, like a second Garuda, slew with his excellent sword five and ten combatants amongst those that supported Karna. Mounting once more on his car and taking up another bow, he pierced Karna with ten shafts and his charioteer and steeds with five. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07030.htm

3. Satyaki defeats Karna in archery, breaks his bow and Karna has to be saved by Jayadratha and others etc - Sini's grandson also, of splendour equal to that of Indra himself, taking up another bow pierced Suta's son with four and sixty shafts and roared like a lion. And cutting off Karna's bow with a couple of well-shot shafts, he once more pierced Karna on the arms and the chest with three arrows. The king Duryodhana, and Drona and Jayadratha, rescued Karna from the Satyaki-ocean, as the former was about to sink into it. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07030.htm
THAT WAS ALL JUST THE TWELFTH (12TH) DAY. DO YOU HAVE IT IN YOU TO READ FURTHER KARNA FANS?

4. Abhimanyu defeated Karna and 13 other warrior's together AT ONCE on day 13 - And Drona, and Drona's son, and Kripa and Karna and Kritavarman and Suvala's son, Vrihadvala, and the ruler of the Madras, and Bhuri, and Bhurisravas, and Sala, and Paurava and Vrishasena, shooting sharp shafts, checked Subhadra's son by means of those arrowy showers. Confounding him with those showers of shafts, they rescued Duryodhana. The son of Arjuna, however, brooked not that act of snatching a morsel from his mouth. Covering those mighty car-warriors, their charioteers, and steeds with thick showers of arrows and causing them to turn back, the son of Subhadra uttered a leonine roar. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07035.htm

5. Abhimanyu defeats Karna and several others again (Abhimanyu was the son of Arjuna and was 16 years old, and these 20 warriors were all beaten & ran away from him) - Then Karna and Kripa, and Drona and Drona's son, and the ruler of the Gandharas, and Sala and Salya, and Bhurisravas and Kratha, and Somadatta, and Vivinsati, and Vrishasena, and Sushena, and Kundavedhin, and Pratardana, and Vrindaraka and Lalithya, and Pravahu, and Drighalochana, and angry Duryodhana, showered their arrows upon him. Then Abhimanyu, excessively pierced by those great bowmen with their straight shafts, shot shafts at Karna which was capable of piercing through every armour and body. That shaft, piercing through Karna's coat of mail and then his body, entered the earth like a snake piercing through an anthill. Deeply pierced, Karna felt great pain and became perfectly helpless. Indeed, Karna began to tremble in that battle like a hill during an earthquake. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07035.htm

6. Abhimanyu again defeats Karna - Then Karna, the most honoured of all bowmen, desirous of obtaining victory, pierced the son of Subhadra with hundreds of arrows, displacing his best weapons. That foremost of all persons conversant with weapons, that valiant disciple of Rama, by means of his weapons, thus afflicted Abhimanyu who was incapable of being defeated by foes. Though afflicted in battle by Radha's son with showers of weapons, still Subhadra's son who resembled a very celestial (for prowess) felt no pain. With his shafts whetted on stone and furnished with sharp points, the son of Arjuna, cutting off the bows of many heroic warriors, began to afflict Karna in return. With shafts resembling snakes of virulent poison and shot from his bow drawn to a circle, Abhimanyu quickly cut off the umbrella, standard, the charioteer, and the steeds of Karna, smiling the while. Karna then shot five straight arrows at Abhimanyu. The son of Phalguna, however, received them fearlessly. Endued with great valour and courage, the latter then, in a moment, with only a single arrow, cut off Karna's bow and standard and caused them to drop down on the ground. Beholding Karna in such distress, his younger brother, drawing the bow with great force, speedily proceeded against the son of Subhadra. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07037.htm
Abhimanyu also kills Karna's foster brother - Then Abhimanyu, forcibly bending the bow and smiling the while, with one winged arrow cut off his antagonist's head. That head, severed from the trunk, fell down on the earth. Beholding his brother slain and overthrown, like a Karnikara tree shaken and thrown down by the wind from the mountain top, Karna, O monarch, was filled with pain. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07038.htm

7. Abhimanyu as usual defeats Karna and Karna runs away - Meanwhile, the son of Subhadra, causing Karna by means of his arrows to turn away from the field, quickly rushed against the other great bowmen. Then Abhimanyu of fierce energy and great fame, filled with wrath, broke that host of diverse forces abounding with elephants and steeds and cars and infantry. As regards Karna, afflicted by Abhimanyu with countless shafts, he fled away from the field borne by swift steeds. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07038.htm

8. And now Karna attacks Abhimanyu in a group attack and is defeated again running away like a dog what a coward - Beholding them broken and routed, Drona and Drona's son, and Vrihadvala, and Kripa, and Duryodhana, and Karna, and Kritavarman, and Suvala's son (Sakuni), rushed in great wrath against the unvanquished son of Subhadra. Almost all these, O king, were beaten back by thy grandson. Only one warrior then, viz., Lakshmana, brought up in luxury, accomplished in arrows, endued with great energy, and fearless in consequence of inexperience and pride, proceeded against the son of Arjuna. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07043.htm

9. Karna urged by Duryodhana after Abhimanyu killed his son is still beat off and vanquished by Abhimanyu - Then Drona, and Kripa, and Karna, and Drona's son and Vrihadvala, and Kritavarman, the son of Hridika,--these six car-warriors,---encompassed Abhimanyu. Piercing them with sharp arrows and beating them off from him, the son of Arjuna fell with great speed and fury upon the vast forces of Jayadratha. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07043.htm
BELOW IS THE 14TH DAY!

10. Bhima defeats Karna in archery - Bhima, again, O sire! And once more he began to shoot arrows by hundreds and thousands. Suddenly shrouded with shafts by that firm bowman, viz., Karna, the son of Pandu, smiling the while, cut off Karna's bow-string. And then with a broad-headed arrow, he despatched Karna's charioteer to the abode of Yama. And that mighty car-warrior, viz., Bhima, deprived the four steeds also of Karna of their lives. The mighty car-warrior Karna then speedily jumping down, O king, from his steedless car, mounted the car of Vrishasena. The valiant Bhimasena then, having vanquished Karna in battle, uttered a loud shout deep as the roar of the clouds. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07125.htm

11. Bhima defeats Karna again - The mighty-armed Bhima could not brook that conduct, in battle, of the mighty-armed Karna. Rolling his eyes ill wrath, he pierced Karna with five and twenty long shafts. Thereupon, Karna looked like a white mountain with many snakes of virulent poison (hanging from its sides). And once more, Bhimasena, endued with the prowess of a celestial, pierced the Suta's son who was prepared to lay down his life in battle, with six and then with eight arrows. And, again, with another arrow, the valiant Bhimasena quickly cut off Karna's bow, smiling the while. And he slew also with his shafts the four steeds of Karna and then his charioteer, and then pierced Karna himself in the chest with a number of long shafts endued with the effulgence of the sun. Those winged shafts, piercing through Karna's body, entered the earth, like the rays of the sun piercing through the clouds. Afflicted with arrows and his bow cut off, Karna, though proud of his manliness, felt great pain and proceeded to another car.'" http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07127.htm

12. Bhima once again defeats Karna - Then Bhima once more cut Karna's bow at the handle, O sire, and despatched by means of his shafts the latter's steeds, white as conchs, to the abode of Yama, and the son of Pandu also felled his enemy's charioteer from his niche in the car. Then Karna, the son of Vikartana, made steedless and driverless, and covered in that battle (with shafts), became plunged into great anxiety. Stupefied by Bhima with his arrowy showers, he knew not what to do. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07129.htm

13. Bhima beats Karna again 4th time in a row on the 14th day - Then the son of Radha, without reflecting a moment, pierced Bhima in return with four and ten fierce shafts adorned with gold. Those fierce-winged arrows, piercing through Bhima's right arms, entered the earth like birds entering a grove of trees. Striking against the earth, those arrows looked resplendent, like the blazing rays of the sun while proceeding towards the Asta hills. Pierced in that battle with those all-piercing arrows, Bhima began to shed copious streams of blood, like a mountain ejecting streams of water. Then Bhima pierced the Suta's son in return with three shafts endued with the impetuosity of Garuda and he pierced the latter's charioteer also with seven. Then, O king, Karna thus afflicted by Bhima's might, became exceedingly distressed. And that illustrious warrior then fled, forsaking the battle, borne away by his fleet steeds. The Atiratha Bhimasena, however, drawing his bow adorned with gold, stayed in battle, looking resplendent like a blazing fire.'" http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07130.htm

14. Bhima defeats Karna once more and Duryodhana sends his brothers to protect Karna who runs away - Then the son of Pandu, gifted with great prowess and exerting himself with great activity, shot a thousand arrows at the Suta's son, desirous of taking the latter's life. Karna, however, in the dreadful battle, resisting all those shafts with his own, cut off Bhima's armour also with his arrows. And then he pierced Bhima with five and twenty small shafts in the sight of all the troops. All this seemed exceedingly wonderful. Then, O monarch, Bhima, excited with rage, sped nine straight shafts at the Suta's son. Those keen shafts, piercing through Karna's coat of mail and right arm, entered the earth like snakes into an ant-hill. Shrouded with showers of shafts shot from Bhimasena's bow, Karna once more turned his back upon Bhimasena. Beholding the Suta's son turn back and flying away on foot, covered all over with the arrows of Kunti's son, Duryodhana said, 'Go ye quickly from all sides towards the car of Radha's son.' 'Then, O king, thy sons, hearing these words of their brother that were to them a surprise, rushed towards the son of Pandu for battle, shooting showers of shafts. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07132.htm

15. Bhima defeats Karna using bow's and arrows once again - And once again, O Bharata, the mighty-armed Bhima quickly shot in that battle ten long shafts that looked like snakes of virulent poison just freed from their sloughs. Shot by Bhima, those shafts, O sire, striking Karna's forehead, entered it like snakes entering an ant-hill. With those shafts sticking to his forehead, the Suta's son looked beautiful, as he did before, while his brow had been encircled with a chaplet of blue lotuses. Deeply pierced by the active son of Pandu, Karna, supporting himself on the Kuxara of his car, closed his eyes. Soon, however, regaining consciousness, Karna, that scorcher of foes, with his body bathed in blood, became mad with rage. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07135.htm

16. Bhima was about to kill Karna by pounding him to death with his fists but spared him - Bhima also, raising his fierce fists that were endued with the force of the thunder, desired to slay the Suta's son. Soon, however, he recollected Arjuna's vow. The son of Pandu, therefore, though competent, spared the life of Karna, from desire of not falsifying the vow that Savyasachin had made. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07135.htm

17. Bhima & Arjuna both assail Karna and he runs away from them escaping like a hyena escapes from a lion - Then the ape-bannered (Arjuna), urged by Kesava, shot at the Suta's son, O king, many shafts whetted on stone. Those arrows adorned with gold, shot by Partha's arms and issuing out of Gandiva, entered Karna's body, like cranes into the Krauncha mountains. With those arrows shot from Gandiva which entered Karna's body like so many snakes, Dhananjaya drove the Suta's son from Bhimasena's vicinity. His bow cut off by Bhima, and himself afflicted with the arrows of Dhananjaya, Karna quickly fled away from Bhima on his great car. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07135.htm

18. Arjuna defeats Karna and Drona's son has to save Karna - Then the mighty-armed Phalguna, in that battle, pierced Karna, the son of Vikartana, in all his limbs with a hundred arrows. All his limbs bathed in blood, the Suta's son of great prowess and bravery, pierced Phalguna in return with fifty arrows. Beholding that lightness of hand displayed by him in battle, Arjuna brooked it not. Cutting off his bow, that hero, viz., Dhananjaya, the son of Pritha, quickly pierced Karna in the centre of the chest with nine arrows, Then Dhananjaya, with great speed at a time, when speed was necessary shot in that battle a shaft of solar effulgence for the destruction of Karna. Drona's son, however, with a crescent-shaped arrow, cut off that shaft as it coursed impetuously (towards Karna). http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07141.htm

19. Arjuna defeats Karna and he has to be saved by Aswathamman again - Meanwhile, O monarch, beholding the prowess of Karna, Arjuna, of white steeds, with four shafts shot from the bow-string drawn to the ear, despatched the four steeds of Karna to Yama's domain. And he also felled with a broad-headed arrow, Karna's charioteer from his niche in the car. And he covered Karna himself with clouds of shafts in the very sight of thy son. Thus shrouded with arrows the steedless and driverless Karna, stupefied by that arrowy shower, knew not what to do. Beholding him made carless, Aswatthaman, O king, caused him to ride on his car, and continued to fight with Arjuna. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07141.htm

20. Satyaki also defeats Karna on the 14th day (he just can't catch a break lol...) - Beholding him filled with rage, Satyaki pierced him in return, shooting dense showers of arrows, like an elephant piercing (with his tusks) a rival elephant. Those two tigers among men, endued with the activity of tigers and possessed of incomparable prowess, mangled each other furiously in that battle. The grandson of Sini, then, with shafts made entirely of iron, repeatedly pierced Karna, that chastiser of foes, in all his limbs. And he also felled, with a broad-headed arrow, the charioteer of Karna from his niche in the car. And with his keen shafts, he slew the four steeds, white in hue, of Adhiratha's son. And then cutting into a hundred fragments the standard of Karna with a hundred arrows, that bull among men made Karna carless in the very sight of thy son. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07143.htm

21. Satyaki defeats Karna and 4 other equal warriors using only one bow and spares his life - Karna also, O king, pierced by Satwata with his arrows and exceedingly weakened ascended the car of Duryodhana, sighing deeply, remembering his friendship for thy son from his childhood and having striven to realise the promise he had made about the bestowal of sovereignty on Duryodhana. After Karna hath been made carless, thy brave sons, headed by Duhsasana, O king, were not slain by the self-restrained Satyaki because the latter wished not to falsify the vow made by Bhimasena. Desirous also of not falsifying the vow formerly made by Partha (about the slaughter of Karna), Satyaki simply made those warriors carless and weakened them exceedingly, but did not deprive them of life. It is Bhima that hath vowed the slaughter of thy sons, and it is Partha that, at the time of the second match at dice, vowed the slaughter of Karna. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07143.htm
BELOW IS DURING THE 15TH DAY!

22. Bhima kills brother's of Karna's best friend Duryodhana and attacks Karna, Sakuni saves Karna and all the kings including Karna ran away from Bhima - Then Karna hurled at the son of Pandu, a dart decked with gold. The Pandava, however, smiling the while, seized with his hand that dart. And the invincible Vrikodara in that battle hurled that very dart back at Karna. Then Sakuni, with a shaft that had drunk oil, cut off that dart as it coursed towards Karna. Having achieved these mighty feats in battle, Bhima, of wonderful prowess, came back to his own car and rushed against thy troops. And while Bhima was thus advancing, slaughtering (thy troops) like the Destroyer himself in rage, thy sons, O monarch, attempted to resist that mighty-armed hero. Indeed, those mighty car-warriors covered him with a dense shower of arrows. Then Bhima, smiling the while, despatched in that battle, with his shafts, the driver and the steeds of Durmada unto the abode of Yama. Durmada, at this, quickly mounted upon the car of Dushkarna. Then those scorchers of foes, viz., the two brothers, riding oh the same car, both rushed against Bhima in the front rank of battle, like the Regent of the waters and Surya rushing against Taraka, that foremost of Daityas. Then thy sons, Durmada and Dushkarna, mounting on the same car, pierced Bhima with shafts. Then in the very sight of Karna, of Aswatthaman, of Duryodhana, of Kripa, of Somadatta, and of Valhika, the son of Pandu, that chastiser of foes, by a stamp of his foot, caused that car of the heroic Durmada and Dushkarna to sink into the earth. Filled with rage, Bhima struck with his fists those mighty and brave sons of thine, viz., Durmada and Dushkarna, and crushed them therewith and roared aloud. Then cries of Oh and Alas arose among the troops. And the kings, beholding Bhima said, 'That is Rudra who is fighting in Bhima's form among the Dhartarashtras.' Saying these words, O Bharata, all the kings fled away, deprived of their senses and urging the animals they rode to their greatest speed. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07151.htm

23. Aswathamman was the only one to stay back and face Ghatotkaca unlike Karna who ran away after getting pained by a few measly attacks - Then, thrown by the Rakshasas who had become more powerful in consequence of the night, there began to fall on the field of battle a thick shower of stones. And a ceaseless shower of iron wheels and Bhundis and darts and lances and spears and Sataghnis and axes also fell there. Beholding that fierce and awful battle, the kings, thy sons, and Karna, also exceedingly pained, fled away. Only the proud son of Drona, ever boastful of his might in arms, stood fearlessly. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07152.htm

24. Arjuna defeats Karna so easily - Approaching each other, those two great bowmen, desirous of counteracting each other's feats, continued to cover each other with showers of shafts. The battle that took place between them, viz., Karna and the son of Pandu, became exceedingly wonderful, like that between the two wild elephants for the sake of a she-elephant in her season. Then the mighty bowman Partha, beholding Karna's prowess, quickly cut of the latter's bow at the handle. And he also despatched the four steeds of the Suta's son to Yama's abode with a number of broad-headed shafts. And that scorcher of foes also cut off from the trunk the head of Karna's driver. Then, the son of Pandu and Pritha pierced the bowless, the steedless, and the driverless Karna with four shafts. Then that bull among men Karna, afflicted with those shafts, specially jumping down from that steedless car, mounted upon that of Kripa. Beholding the son of Radha vanquished, thy, warriors, O bull of Bharata's race, fled away in all directions. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07155.htm

25. Dhrishtadyumna defeats Karna and cuts his bow off - Indeed, O king, Dhrishtadyumna, in that dreadful battle, quickly pierced Drona himself, and Karna, and Drona's son, and thy son. Thus pierced by that bowman, those warriors, fighting together, pierced Dhrishtadyumna again in that encounter, uttering loud roars the while. Then Drumasena, excited with wrath, O king, pierced the Panchala prince with a winged arrow, and once again quickly with three other arrows. And addressing the prince, he said, 'Wait! Wait!' Dhrishtadyumna then pierced Drumasena in return with three straight arrows, in the encounter, which were equipped with wings of gold, steeped in oil, and capable of taking the life of him at whom they are sped. With another broad-headed shaft, the prince of the Panchalas then, in that battle, cut off from Drumasena's trunk the latter's head decked with bright ear-rings of gold. That head, with (the lower) lip bit (in rage), fell on the ground like a ripe palmyra fruit separated from the stalk by the action of a strong wind. Once again, piercing all those warriors with keen shafts, that hero, with some broad-headed shafts, cut off the bow of Radha's son, that warrior conversant with all modes of warfare. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07167.htm

26. Karna and his son Vrishasena are both defeated by Satyaki (disciple of Arjuna) - Resisting with his own weapons those of them all and of Karna also, O lord, Satyaki quickly pierced Vrishasena in the centre of the chest. Pierced with that arrow, the valiant Vrishasena, of great splendour, quickly fell down on his car, casting aside his bow. Then Karna, believing that mighty car-warrior, viz., Vrishasena, slain, became scorched with grief on account of the death of his son and began to afflict Satyaki with great force. Thus afflicted by Karna, the mighty car-warrior Yuyudhana, with great speed, repeatedly pierced Karna with many shafts. Once more piercing Karna with ten arrows, and Vrishasena with five, the Satwata hero cut off the leathern fences and the bows of both sire and son. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07167.htm

27. Arjuna defeats Drona, Karna & Duryodhana - "Sanjaya continued, 'Thus urged by Bhima and Kesava, Savyasachin prevailing over Drona and Karna, began to resist the foe all round. Many foremost of Kshatriyas (among the Kurus), putting forth all their prowess, failed to withstand Arjuna who advanced at the very van of his troops, and who, like a raging conflagration, was consuming the foremost ones among his foes. Then Duryodhana and Karna, and Sakuni, the son of Suvala, covered Kunti's son, Dhananjaya, with showers of shafts. Baffling the weapons of all those warriors, that foremost of all persons well-skilled in weapons, O monarch, covered them (in return) with his shafts. Aiming at their weapons with his (and thus baffling them all), Arjuna, endued with great lightness of hand and possessing a complete control over his senses, pierced every one of those warriors with ten keen-pointed shafts. The welkin was then covered with dust. Thick showers of arrows fell. Darkness set in, and a loud and terrible uproar arose. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07183.htm

28. Karna, Kritavarman, Kripa, Duryodhana, Dussasana & Vrishasena attacked Satyaki in a group yet he still managed to make them all carless and force them to retreat, karna always runs away - All of them began quickly to pierce Satyaki from every side with keen shafts, Duryodhana pierced him with twenty, Saradwat's son, Kripa, with three. And Kritavarman pierced him with ten, and Karna with fifty. And Duhsasana pierced him with a hundred arrows, and Vrishasena with seven. Satyaki, however, O king, soon made all those great car-warriors fly away from the field, deprived of their cars. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07197.htm

29. Satyaki defeats Karna who gets a rescue team to save him - Then the son of Surya, resembling the chief of the celestials himself in prowess and like unto the younger brother of Indra, struck that foremost one of Sini's race with shafts whose splendour resembled the rays of the Sun. That bull of Sini's race also, in that battle, then quickly shrouded that foremost of men, with his car and steeds and driver, with diverse kinds of shafts terrible as the poison of the snake. Then many Atirathas belonging to thy army, accompanied by elephants and cars and foot-soldiers, quickly approached that bull among car-warriors, viz., Vasusena, when they beheld the latter deeply afflicted with the shafts of that foremost hero of Sini's race. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08030.htm
Satyaki also wounds Karna with almost 200 arrows when Karna tries to escape and run away from him during day 16 - At this, Karna, leaving Satyaki quickly pierced Arjuna with three arrows and Krishna with twenty, and Partha again repeatedly. Although many were the arrows that he shot while slaying his foes in that battle, like Indra himself inspired with wrath, Karna yet felt no fatigue. Meanwhile Satyaki, coming up, pierced Karna with nine and ninety fierce arrows, and once more with a hundred. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08030.htm

30. Arjuna also defeats Karna on the 16th day and Karna's whole army runs away - Slaughtered by the energy of Karna's weapons, almost the whole of that force of the Pandavas, deprived of weapons, and with limbs mangled and torn, retired from the field. Then Arjuna, smiling the while, baffled with his own weapons the weapons of Karna and covered the welkin, the Earth, and all the points of the compass with dense shower of arrows. The shafts of Arjuna fell like heavy clubs and spiked bludgeons. And some amongst them fell like Sataghnis and some fell like fierce thunderbolts. Slaughtered therewith, the Kaurava force consisting of infantry and horse and cars and elephants, shutting its eyes, uttered loud wails of woe and wandered senselessly. Many were the steeds and men and elephants that perished on that occasion. Many, again, struck with shafts and deeply afflicted fled away in fear. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08030.htm

31. Yudhishthira wounds karna so hard on the 17th day that he makes Karna drop his Vijaya bow and fall down on his car - Drawing the bow to its fullest stretch, the king quickly sped that arrow, fatal as the rod of the Destroyer, from desire of slaying the Suta's son. Sped by the king endued with great might, that arrow whose whizz resembled the noise of the thunder, suddenly pierced Karna, that mighty car-warrior, on his left side. Deeply afflicted by the violence of that stroke, the mighty-armed Karna with weakened limbs, fell into a swoon on his car, his bow dropping from his hand. Beholding Karna in that plight, the vast Dhartarashtra host uttered cries of "Oh" and "Alas," and the faces of all the combatants became colourless. Beholding the prowess of their king, on the other hand, O monarch, amongst the Pandavas, leonine roars and shouts and confused cries of joy arose. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08049.htm

32. Bhima makes Karna unconscious as well and Shalya has to save him - Thus sped by the mighty Bhima, that shaft, making a noise loud as that of the thunder, pierced through thunderbolt Karna in that battle, like the thunderbolt itself piercing through a mountain. Struck by Bhimasena, O perpetuator of Kuru's race, the Suta's son, that commander (of thy forces), sat down senseless on the terrace of his car. The ruler of the Madras then, beholding the Suta's son deprived of his senses, bore that ornament of battle away on his car, from that fight. Then after Karna's defeat, Bhimasena began to rout the vast Dhartarashtra host http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08050.htm

32B. Dhrishtadyumna vs Karna day 17 - Then Dhrishtadyumna assailed the son of Radha with a straight shaft in that battle, and addressing him said, "Wait, Wait." The mighty car-warrior Karna, filled with rage, shook his foremost of bows called Vijaya, and cutting off the bow of Dhrishtadyumna, as also his arrows resembling snakes of virulent poison assailed Dhrishtadyumna himself with nine arrows. Those arrows, O sinless one, piercing through the gold-decked armour of the high-souled son of Prishata, became bathed in blood and looked beautiful like so many cochineal. The mighty car-warrior Dhrishtadyumna, casting aside that broken bow, took up another bow and a number of shafts resembling snakes of virulent poison. With those straight shafts numbering seventy, he pierced Karna. Similarly, O king, Karna, in that battle, covered Prishata's son, that scorcher of foes, with many shafts resembling snakes of virulent poison. The slayer of Drona, that great bowman, retaliated by piercing Karna with many keen shafts. Filled with rage, Karna then, O monarch, sped at his antagonist a gold-decked shaft that resembled a second rod of death. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08059.htm
                                This is NOT a defeat of Karna. BUT you can see how he has so many difficulties with a warrior like Dhrishtadyumna. How Karna get's so frustrated and was forced to use his Vijaya bow. And even though Dhrishtadyumna's weapons got cut off he still got more weapons and continued to fight beating Karna back. Despite being at a disadvantage he held his own against Karna. He proved that he was at-least equal to him. So Karna at his best with the bow of victory (Vijaya) could only MATCH & STALEMATE Dhrishtadyumna (who was nowhere near Arjuna, Bhima or even Satyaki).

NOTE: Some Karna fans say that this above incident was a victory of Karna and a defeat of Dhrishtadyumna because Satyaki intervened. But the thing is that Karna's shaft could not harm Dhrishtadyumna or be his death at all. Satyaki was able to cut off that shaft of Karna easily in the same section 59.

33. Satyaki also defeated Karna during the 17th day of the war - The son of Radha then, that crusher of foes, turning back from the pursuit, quickly covered Bhima himself with sharp arrows from every side. Then Satyaki, of immeasurable soul, O Bharata, placing himself on the side of Bhima's car, began to afflict Karna who was in front of Bhima. Though exceedingly afflicted by Satyaki, Karna still approached Bhima. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08051.htm Karna clearly ran away AVOIDING an encounter with Satyaki cause he was pained by his attacks.

34. Arjuna finally defeats and kills karna putting an end to this story - Then Vasudeva, addressing Partha, said, "Cut off with thy arrow the head of this enemy of thine, viz., Vrisha, before he succeeds in getting upon his car." Applauding those words of the lord Vasudeva, and while the wheel of his enemy was still sunk, the mighty car-warrior Arjuna took up a razor-headed arrow of blazing effulgence and struck the standard (of Karna) bearing the elephant's rope and bright as the spotless sun. That standard bearing the device of the costly elephant's rope, was adorned with gold and pearls and gems and diamonds, and forged with care by foremost of artists excelling in knowledge, and possessed of great beauty, and variegated with pure gold. That standard always used to fill thy troops with high courage and the enemy with fear. Its form commanded applause. Celebrated over the whole world, it resembled the sun in splendour. Indeed, its effulgence was like that of fire or the sun or the moon. The diadem-decked Arjuna, with that razor-headed shaft, exceedingly sharp, equipped with wings of gold, possessed of the splendour of fire when fed with libations of clarified butter, and blazing with beauty, cut off that standard of Adhiratha's son, that great car-warrior. With that standard, as it fell, the fame, pride, hope of victory, and everything dear, as also the hearts of the Kurus, fell, and loud wails of "Oh!" and "Alas!" arose (from the Kuru army). Beholding that standard cut off and thrown down by that hero of Kuru's race possessed of great lightness of hand, thy troops, O Bharata, were no longer hopeful of Karna's victory. Hastening then for Karna's destruction, Partha took out from his quiver an excellent Anjalika weapon that resembled the thunder of Indra or the rod of fire and that was possessed of the effulgence of the thousand-rayed Sun. Capable of penetrating the very vitals, besmeared with blood and flesh, resembling fire or the sun, made of costly materials, destructive of men, steeds, and elephants, of straight course and fierce impetuosity, it measured three cubits and six feet. Endued with the force of the thousand-eyed Indra's thunder, irresistible as Rakshasas in the night, resembling Pinaka or Narayana's discus, it was exceedingly terrible and destructive of all living creatures. Partha cheerfully took up that great weapon, in the shape of an arrow, which could not be resisted by the very gods, that high-souled being which was always adored by the son of Pandu, and which was capable of vanquishing the very gods and the Asuras. Beholding that shaft grasped by Partha in that battle, the entire universe shook with its mobile and immobile creatures. Indeed, seeing that weapon raised (for being sped) in that dreadful battle, the Rishis loudly cried out, "Peace be to the universe!" The wielder of Gandiva then fixed on his bow that unrivalled arrow, uniting it with a high and mighty weapon. Drawing his bow Gandiva, he quickly said, "Let this shaft of mine be like a mighty weapon capable of quickly destroying the body and heart of my enemy, if I have ever practised ascetic austerities, gratified my superiors, and listened to the counsels of well-wishers. Let this shaft, worshipped by me and possessed of great sharpness, slay my enemy Karna by that Truth." Having said these words Dhananjaya let off that terrible shaft for the destruction of Karna, that arrow fierce and efficacious as a rite prescribed in the Atharvan of Angiras, blazing with effulgence, and incapable of being endured by Death himself in battle. And the diadem-decked Partha, desirous of slaying Karna, with great cheerfulness, said, "Let this shaft conduce to my victory. Shot by me, let this arrow possessed of the splendour of fire or the sun take Karna to the presence of Yama." Saying these words, Arjuna, decked with diadem and garlands, cherishing feelings of hostility towards Karna and desirous of slaying him, cheerfully struck his foe with that foremost of shafts which was possessed of the splendour of the sun or the moon and capable of bestowing victory. Thus sped by that mighty warrior, that shaft endued with the energy of the sun caused all the points of the compass to blaze up with light. With that weapon Arjuna struck off his enemy's head like Indra striking off the head of Vritra with his thunder. Indeed, O king, with that excellent Anjalika weapon inspired with mantras into a mighty weapon, the son of Indra cut off the head of Vaikartana in the afternoon. Thus cut off with that Anjalika, the trunk of Karna fell down on the earth. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08091.htm

NO DAY NO BATTLE OF THE KURUKSHETRA WAR WAS COMPLETED WITHOUT KARNA BEING DEFEATED AND EXPOSED.

Let us count this now. Arjuna defeated Karna 13 times (one with Bhima). Bhima defeated Karna 12 times (one with Arjuna). Abhimanyu defeated Karna 6 times. Satyaki defeated Karna 7 times, Dhrishtadyumna defeats Karna 2 times, Ghatotkatcha defeated Karna once, Pradyumna defeated Karna once, Drupada defeated Karna once, Gandharvas defeated Karna, even Yudhishthira also defeated Karna.
Arjuna + Bhima = 24 + 6 = 30 + 7 = 37 + 2 = 39 + 1 = 40 + 1 = 41 + 1 = 42 + 1 = 43 + 1 = 44 DEFEATS!
So the world record (in Mahabharata at least) is 43 times Karna was defeated. Karna lost 44 times! Karna the ultimate loser.....

Hopefully people have understood now that Karna is not such a great or superior warrior. Now I don't even wanna hear anything about Karna being undefeated ever again. No character in Mahabharata has faced as many defeats as Karna has. He loses the MOST.
To say that he was never defeated. To deny that Karna lost. To call Karna undefeated is to deny your existence. It is like denying common sense. To deny that you are a human being. Anyone who says Karna is undefeated needs to see this post.

115 comments:

  1. These Karna fans will have these excuses for his defeats during Kurukshetra.
    1) He had two curses breathing down his neck (even though his curses only affected him during his final battle with Arjuna so it can only be used as an excuse for the 43rd one not the previous 42 defeats that he faced).
    2) He made a promise to Kunti that he would spare all of her sons and only kill Arjuna (even though this only involves the 5 Pandava brothers not any other warrior, and it only means killing not defeating, what about his other opponents).
    3) Because Krishna hypnotized him during days 11, 12, 13 and 14 (even though Krishna himself stated he only hypnotized Karna to the point where he would NOT hurl the Vasavi dart NOT hampering any of Karna's abilities or prowess JUST stopping him from using ONE WEAPON, ALSO Karna was defeated 7 times AFTER he used the Vasavi dart to kill Ghatotkatcha). Was Karna basically impotent in the battlefield WITHOUT his Vasavi dart?
    4) Karna lost his Kavacha Kundala (even though he was defeated 6 times BEFORE he lost his Kavacha Kundala, list of enemies who defeated Karna while he had that Kavacha Kundala are as follows: Arjuna, Gandharvas, Bhima, Pradyumna & Drupada). If so then Karna could not find without his divine armor. When given normal armor Karna always gets his ass kicked.
    5) Karna did not want to kill his younger brother's. Even though during section 135 book 7 it can clearly be found that Karna attacked his younger brother Bhima with the intention of killing/slaying him.
    6) Karna was group attacked (even though in many of these defeats Karna either fought his opponent single handedly in one on one combat or he usually did group attacks on them joining forces and teaming up with his comrades to attack his enemies, his defeats at the hands of Abhimanyu are a perfect example of this).

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    1. Sir ,good blog ,m damodar Arjuna bt these karna fans not accepting this . One gye on facebook created page karna vs Arjuna where he given heroism to karna . Plss debate with that idiot person.

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    2. Their is no use in debating the admins of that facebook page because if you were to debate those fodders and win, then they will block you, but they will claim that you blocked them. Last time i debated them they had no refutes so they blocked me.

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    3. Golden armor of karna was cut in half by a ordinary sword from Toys R Us.
      Parshurama lost to Bhishma and failed to counter Praswapastra.
      Karna is not the greatest warrior he is a WEAK WARRIOR who loses to foot soldiers.
      MANY WARRIORS defeated karna.
      karna is no comparison to Arjuna.

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    4. krishna praised arjuna more times than praising a coward like karna
      parashuram lost to bhishma deal with it
      tripurasur was killed by shiva no mention of vijaya bow
      the bow gandiva was a bow of shiva
      please kill yourself

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    5. Karna may be inferior to Arjuna but vijaya bow is used by shiva to kill tripurasura then given to parasurama to defeat all Kshatriyas 21 times then it is given to karna
      Gandiva is made by Brahma
      It travelled through different gods and ended up with indra then given to Arjuna
      Forget who is who
      Your knowledge in this is inferior to any one who is reading this blog

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    6. to UNKNOWN your comment shows your ignorance MOST people whether living in india or the pre-india days never supported the truth, you dont know the real facts, you dont know which bow Shiva used, you dont know the battles that shiva fought

      And you DONT KNOW that in virat yudh Arjun told Uttar "my bow was also held by Shiva"

      Before Indra it was held by Prajapati and Shiva, this bow is Gandiva.

      As for Vijaya it was only used by Indra, Rukmi, Prasahuram, whatever karna did with it is nothing, he had it and got his ass kicked on the 17th day by the following group of mards, shers, comedians:
      1. Bheem
      2. Yudhishtir
      3. Nakul
      4. Shikandi
      5. Satyaki
      6. Uttamouja
      The same Karna with his vijay dhanush could not slay a normal rathi like Ugrakarman in a fair fight.

      Whether you are a karna fan does not matter but your BS claims of Shiva using vijay bow does matter. If you still respond with retardation then just kill yourself.

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    7. Fuck u admin...Why did u not count Draupadi...Say that draupadi even defeated Karna in archery..Why u left her alone ..First Go through real mahabharata epic once and then you come with your bullshit facts..Duryodhana would have never fought mahabharata war if karna would not have fought.Do you thnink duryodhana would have such a firm belief on Karna if he was defeated so many times???Seriously lol....Karna was the only maharathi who possessed all the five qualities and strenght of 5 pandavas...

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    8. A piece of shit like this admin should be dragged down the street and should be beaten the way jarasandha was beaten by bhima

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    9. Sarma it is my opinion that you are a pajeet and joker like suryas namard son Karna who was defeated by Pakistan.

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    10. What ganja do u phook i also need it to write non sensical things on internet.com

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    11. Parshuram is weaker than Shikandi.Friday, August 12, 2022 at 6:51:00 PM PDT

      Anonymous your family tree fucked itself more than the royal bloodline of great britain and you urself are a namard coward and randi ka bachcha like hanuman who lost in a fight with pakistani kids and children and bachcha

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  2. Also some Karna fans say that Karna was never dragged yet during defeat number 2 Karna got dragged, captured, tied up, flung and thrown by Pradyumna.

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  3. Hi guys I am fan of Mahabharata and it pull me to your blog.i am no karna hater or Arjuna hater but just a fan.
    So I will put it this way.i assume that the greatest warrior in Mahabharata was lord Sri Krishna means ,he is an avatar ,god himself. He made the pandavas win the war.otherwise there was no way that Arjuna and the other pandavas would surpass warriors like bhisma,drona,karna,ashwattama by themselves alone.

    As far as who is the greatest warrior between the mortals .
    It's obviously karna as lord Krishna has accepted it himself.so who are we to judge when God himself is saying.

    At kurukshetra at the battlefield Arjuna pushed back Karna's chariot 10 steps backward every time by the energy of the arrows, but Karna was only able to push Arjuna's chariot 2 steps backward. Seeing this Lord Krishna praised Karna and admired the skill of Karna. When questioned by Arjuna, Krishna said it is impossible for any human ever to push his chariot backwards because the chariot of Arjuna contains both Hanuman and Krishna, thus holding the entire weight of the universe. Even to shake the chariot is an impossible task, and Karna is pushing it 2 feet (0.61 m) every time by the energy of his arrows. Krishna said no human ever had or ever will attain this feat as it is impossible even to shake the chariot containing Maha Vishnu.

    Here clearly lord Sri Krishna praised karna as the greatest of all time.that no human had or will reach this feat as karna ...not Arjuna not Drona not bhisma not bhima and the people you mention to defeat karna in the past.

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    1. Please tell me where do you get your information from? Where is the proof? Where is the evidence for this incident? It is not their in Ved Vyasa's epic Mahabharata. The historical account of Bharata's descendants Karna and Arjuna.
      ALSO if Karna's arrows had such power in them then he could have sent the troops of the Pandavas out of Kurukshetra but he never did. He could have sent the Pandavas out of India. Cause Krishna's was not on the chariots of Nakula, Sahadeva, Bhima etc.

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    2. The same Krishna said this to Arjuna - 'The mighty-armed Satyaki is singly a match for Karna, O son of Pandu! http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07143.htm

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    3. WWW.Sacred-texts.com/hin/m01/m01118.htm
      This guy about kandhari son karna

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    4. Gandhari's son karna was superior to namard lund choosing bitch surya dev and whore and slut kutti mata ganga

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  4. Karna's arrows were meant to kill people,destroy their existence,if got hit...they don't make you fly out of kurukshetra or india. secondly he didn't intended to kill nakul ,sahdev ,bhima e.t.c as he promised kunti that his sole target will be only Arjuna ,so he didn't put his full potential on nakul sahdev bhima etc. .......as far as for Arjuna chariot ...at the pavilion of Kauravas, Lord Krishna adviced Arjuna to take his divine bow Gandiva and get down from his chariot immediately. After Arjuna did so, Lord Hanuman disappeared from his flag and Lord Krishna also got down from the chariot.Soon after Lord Krishna had got down from chariot, the horses were burnt alive and the chariot exploded into pieces. That was due to the devastating effect of Brahmastras which had already shot by Karna and Drona in the battle.Arjuna wondered by seeing such a horrible scene and asked Krishna about the reason. Lord Krishna said that, the divine chariot of Arjuna was already burnt by consuming diverse kinds of weapons including brahmastras of Drona and Karna, that they had shot against Arjuna in the battle . It was because of his power, the divine chariot of Arjuna remained unburnt through the battle.Thus Lord Krishna saved the life of Arjuna from Drona and Karna in the battle.


    As for my sources I don't really on single material .. i check things again from various places.i know you have not read the original vyas Mahabharata because it's in Sanskrit.

    I found these stories from Wikipedia,on ramanand Sagar Mahabharata,and on Google too. As far I know that incident happened in karna parv on 17 th day of war.

    Now for Arjuna .I always doubt him to be best he won because he was on the side of the good but other superior warriors were killed and also by unfair means because they choose the side of the evil.
    Like bhisma killed using shikandi an enuch
    Drona killed using lie that his son was dead
    Karna killed when he was weaponless trying to pull the wheel.
    None was killed righteously .

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    1. So you got your information off of TV serials while I got mine off of sanskrit texts? Sighs another illiterate blind retarded karna fan.....
      No such incident of Karna moving Arjuna's chariot has ever happened in any authentic translation of the Hindu epic Mahabharata.
      If karna's arrows were meant to destroy and kill then why did his arrows FAIL TO KILL Satyaki, Dhrishtadyumna etc? Those 2 warriors had defeated him many times but they weren't his brothers at all. Karna never promised not to kill those 2 warriors. So why did karna's arrows fail him against warriors like Dhrishtadyumna and Satyaki then?
      Bhishma was killed by Shikhandin alone, Arjuna merely protected Shikhandin form the attacks.
      Drona actually killed himself.
      Karna was killed fairly by Arjuna.

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    2. Drupad in his young age was a great warrior and general. His name was considered for the post of generalissimo of Pandava army. It was very difficult to defeat Drupad supported by his strong Panchala army. Even Drona had to take the help of Kuru princes for defeating him.

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    3. the same brahmin bharadwaj who helped Divodas kill Shambar is the same brahmin that taught Drupad

      The same dhrishtadyumna who kicked karna's ass six times was the son of Drupad

      You really think Drupad would lose to a namard like karna?

      Understand that on the 11th day Drupad had a stalemate with Bhagadatta the same Bhagadatta who karna feared

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    4. SRI HARSHA Manchukonda- Invincible Arjuna

      I do not think I can forgive you for overglorifying arjuna in your blogs and criticising other warriors. Drona can defeat Drupada and ke was the one who killed Drupada. Drupada said he cannot be a great teacher so Drona made a vow that though he was enough for entire Panchal army, he will train students in such a way that they will be be able to single-handedly defeat Drupad and his entire army.

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    5. you are pretty stupid and you should be beaten up in public like karna was beaten up by satyaki, ghatotkatch etc
      drupad and his army defeated karna, duryodhan, yuyutsu and many other students of drona

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    6. Karna is a great warrior even Krishna have no doubt about it.i don't say he never defeated by anyone .it is true that he defeated by drupath ,Arjuna,bhima,satyaki,abhimanyu and gandharva chitrasena and ghotolkach during his entire life.but don't forget that he defeated drupad in digvijay yatra and defeat and spare bhima and defeat sathyaki and ghotolkach was defeated so many time in the last battle by karna.only Arjuna,abhimanyu and chitrasena defeated him in battle.but in gandharva war karna completely defeat entire ghangarva host using ordinary weapons but he failed to counter the illusions of chitrasena.but Arjuna defeated chitrasena using celestial weapons.it is not recorded in mb that why he not using any powerful divine weapons such as brahmastra ,agneyastra,bhargavastra in that battle.he successfully counter 1000 illusion created by ghotolkach then why he not counter illusions of chitrasena.no answer in mb.the only warrior who defeated karna in fair battle is Arjuna in Virat war we cannot say he ever defeat karna in mahabharath fair and square.in last battle both are fought valienty both gain upper hand over other and counter all divine weapons successfully.only when karna affected by curses Arjuna prevail over him.but lastly Arjuna kill weaponless karna unfairly it is even recorded in bori critical edition too.but karna has clear shot that surely kill Arjuna that surpamukastra Krishna save Arjuna using his power.arjuna does not even fire a weapon to counter nagastra so if Krishna not interfere arjunas death is sure in that battle.killingba warrior fairly considered as a defeat so here we can clearly say karna is the real winner there than arjuna.as per my openion killing Arjuna is possible without Krishna but defeat him fairly is almost impossible.but in case karna having kavach and kundal killing is impossible but can defeat him if fight by his equal level warriors like bhima and sathyaki,Arjuna abhimanyu etc.in archery skill both Arjuna and karna almost equall only in the divine weapon collection Arjuna superior to him.inbrangabhumi karna equalled all arjunas feat and even yudhistira thought there was no archer equall to karna in battle.abhimanyu also defeat karna fairly in battle.arjuna,abhimanyu defeated him fairly in his entire life.all other warrior who defeat karna where defeated by karna too .so it does not make any point.

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    7. Jaideep Gill (slapped hanumana).Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 9:48:00 PM PDT

      1 - Arjuna kills karna fairly on the 17th day when he was holding the vijaya bow (in bori). It is only different in KMG where karna lacks the power to hold his bow any longer due to how many wounds arjuna gave his arm.

      2 - Karna never used nag astra, he used a special arrow which had the power of another person named ASHWASHEN inside it, that is not nag astra. It is cheating by using another person's help its like a group attack.

      3 - Krishna also praised king Shalya to be a warrior on par with or better than Karna & Bhishma & even Parshurama. Same Krishna said that he prefers to lie to others so dont talk of his statement again bitch.

      4 - Karna beating Drupada in his campaign is not believable due to many problems with a digvijaya. BUT to talk about it even if we consider this then Drupada was very old in vana parva, he no longer even needed to keep his body fit cause he had many sons and ally nations to rely on for border security, so karna defeated drupada when drupada was not at his FULL POWER.

      5 - Karna defeated Bheem BUT even the super old king Vahleek in the 14th night has the power to do that, so its not impressive.

      6 - Karna did not defeat Satyaki in a single fight barring the 17th day, but on that same day Satyaki kills karna's son PRASENA in his eye sight and Karna can not do anything.

      Karna tried doing group attacks on satyaki even during the 17th day, he still failed. His only victory is in the fifty sixth chapter of karna parva.

      Satyaki defeated Karna more times than the opposite ever happened.

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  5. Karna was killed fairly by Arjuna....who looks retarded now,attacking on a weapon less wasn't fair that time. And checking for sources trying finding on Wikipedia also.
    Try find it in the karna parv 17 th day of war. And as for becoming a karna fan,there were many greater warriors also like Krishna ,barbarik.parshuram at that time.

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    1. Lmao you get your information from Wikpedia. A website that has content that can be edited and changed by anyone. Anyone can change Karna's name to dirt on their. So stop using wikipedia and learn to think.
      The Barbarik story is fake it never happened Their is no mention of barbarik in the Mahabharata of Vyasa.
      Parshuram was defeated by Bhishma who was defeated by Arjuna so Arjuna was even stronger than Parshuram.
      As for Krishna well him and Arjuna were equal warriors. Arjuna was the offense while Krishna was the defense.
      In the original Mahabharata you wont find anything about Karna being killed unfairly fool.

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    2. Right. Arjuna and Krishna was the incarnation of Nara and Narayana who got boon from Lord Siva that nobody can defeat them. Even if Lord Siva Himself appear before Narayana viz. Krishna , the latter will be better in the battle. Such was the boon.

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  6. Dude there are many temples of barbarik all over India .are saying million of people are fool to worship him ,all their beliefs are not true.in religion and belief things don't run like this. And as for Krishna ,he was incarnation of Vishnu ,he lifted the govardhan parbat with his smallest finger.he is incomparable with any other warriors. and for parshuram he is immortal he won the world alone 21 times without any army .and besides that he is the only one alive not bhisma .it's written in kalkipuran hope you know Sanskrit and you will find this. And friend if you still don't find lord Krishna as the greatest .u know it that he was might and brains both,he is the one who said bhagawat gita ,he is prayed as God all over the world not Arjuna and no warrior is greater than gods might.

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    1. Millions of people worshiped Adolf Hitler yet he was a mass murderer. Millions of people worshiped Joseph Stalin yet he made slaves out of his own people. You're just making yourself look like a fool. You're an extremely shallow person just like karna who is not capable of deep thinking.
      Lord Krishna said that whatever is his is also Arjuna's. That he who hates Arjuna hates himself. He who loves Arjuna loves Krishna. He who supports Arjuna supports Krishna.
      in the original Mahbahrata you won't fidn anythign about Arjuna's chariot getting struck by any of karna's weak arrows. You won't find any character called Barbareek mentioned in their. You also won't find anything good about karna. The real son of Ghatotkaca and the grandson of Bhima was named Anjanaparvan and he was killed by Aswathamman.
      Parshuram was also called Jamadagnya and Rama. Go read Udyoga Parva part 5 of the epic Mahabharata. In it Rama says that NO ONE CAN DEFEAT ARJUNA AND KRISHNA. If you want then i can give you a link to this section. If you don't want the link and you don't want to know the truth then the Mahabharata is not for people like you. Cause you don't know anything.

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    2. Parasuram also says that there is no kshatriya in earth as karnas equall after cursing him.

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    3. Parshuram saying no kshatriya will be karna's equal means just that. So understand it for yourself, read what u are writing or quoting.

      It means everyone he fights will be either better than him OR weaker than him as long as they are of a Kshatriya caste.

      Chitrasen (gandharva) isn't a kshatriya, his soldiers are the ones that defeated karna, he never fights karna himself.

      And the kshatriyas better than karna are "Satyaki", "Arjuna", "Abhimanyu", "Kritvarman" and "Suyodhana" the ones inferior to him are "Bheem", "Nakula", "Yudhisthira" "Bhishma" & "Duhsasana"

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  7. See upon this Hitler and Stalin are people who existed and on the contradiction you are putting a question mark on the existence of warrior barbarik.just because he is a greater warrior.you want to deny his existence by saying this he is not mentioned in Mahabharata. I'll get there but wait

    Yesterday I worked and found out certain facts or you can say written evidences in the Mahabharata where bhisma is considered equal to parshuram,dont worry I have the exact section no.and book no. To provide you with
    ( Mahabharata,book6:bhisma parva : Bhagavad-Gita parva :section 14) it goes like this how could bhisma who was reckoned as an atiratha and who could not be resisted by the very gods,be slain in battle by sikhandin ,the prince of panchala?he who always regarded himself as equal of the mighty son of jamadagni in battle...... I think it's clear

    Now secondly will you accept it if lord shri Krishna god himself considered karna as no inferior to arjun ...you have to. you always asked for proof and evidence from the very Mahabharata text .
    (Mahabharata,book8:karna parva :section72)
    I must , however,o son of pandu say that which is beneficial to thee .do not.o mighty -armed one , disregard karna ,the ornament of battle!karna is possessed of might........... hear in brief ,on son of pandu!I regard the mighty car warrior karna as thy equal ,or perhaps,thy superior!.... there is more so I am giving you the source.
    ( Source-http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08072.htm)
    And now coming to barbarik existence what if I give you an evidence of that too.will you accept it that he was great . See barbarik might not be mentioned in vyas Mahabharata but it doesn't mean he didn't existed..there is a more holy text present which describes about barbarik.it is skand Purana....hope you know what are Purana's..... I will give you the description hope you can find it
    ( Skand Purana:maheswar Khand :,2nd upkhand:kaumaurika khand)
    Despite of all I will not give you any harsh words about you being a fool or you don't know anything because I got it we should not disrespect any body in debates and discussions like this because we are here to find a conclusion. besides that you considered me shallow minded so my friend enlightened me ..or you still choose to be harsh and tell me you sound like fool ,,because I know so arjun doesnt teach or imparts morals to disrespect anyone either it's your friends or enemy. And do send me the link .

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    1. No i want to deny barbareek's existence because he never existed in the Mahabharata of the legendary author Vyasa. And f you believe in Barbareek then the fact is that he wasn't even a warrior. Just a fake character who relied on the power of three arrows. Not to mention he was a GRANDSON of Bhima. So if a grandson of Arjuna surpasses him then it is a sign of pride for Arjuna that his descendants have surpassed him.
      Now coming to the clearance Barbareek is only mentioned in the Puranas which are all fan-fiction accounts. Each Purana favors their own god and says they are the foremost. Skanda Purana says Skanda is the best, Devi Purana says the Devi's created the world, Vishnu Purana says that Vishnu created Brahma and told him to create the cosmos, Shiva Purana says something different. None of these Purana's are consistent sources. Each of the Purana's were made long after Mahabharata. They're all fake false stories and mythology unlike Mahabharata.
      Mahabharata and Ramayana are all actual stories that happened once upon a time but nothing in the Purana's ever happened. In the Mahabharata you don't find the name of Barbareek written in their. As per the timeline of Skanda Purana the incident of Barbareek should have happened back in either Udyoga Parva (Book 5) or Stri Parva (Book 11) but was never even mentioned in their.
      Link to Udyoga Parva - http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m05/index.htm
      Link to Stri Parva - http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m11/index.htm
      So don't rely on such fan-fiction like Skanda Purana or any Purana for that matter. We're talking about Mahabharata over here.

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    2. Not to mention by your logic Barbareek is stronger than Karna too. And he's just the grandson of Bhima.
      Now listen and read what else Krishna has to say about Karna.
      Krishna to Arjuna: Thus addressed by Savyasachin, the mighty-armed Kesava, endued with great energy, replied in these opportune words, 'The mighty-armed Satyaki is singly a match for Karna, O son of Pandu! How much superior then will this bull among the Satwatas be when he is united with the two sons of Drupada! - http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07143.htm
      So as per Krishna the student of Arjuna (Satyaki) was not just a match for Karna he was also superior to Karna.
      Krishna to Vasudeva: The Suta's son Karna, though a fierce warrior, encountering Partha, came to his end on the second day, like an insect encountering a blazing fire. - http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m14/m14060.htm
      Krishna even called Karna an insect.
      Krishna to Yudhishthira: Then Vasudeva, O monarch, said unto that king, "I know Artayani, O Bharata, truly. Endued with prowess and great energy, he is highly illustrious. He is accomplished, conversant with all the modes of warfare, and possessed of great lightness of hand. I think that the ruler of the Madras is in battle equal to Bhishma or Drona or Karna, or perhaps, superior to them. - http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m09/m09007.htm

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    3. So in my latest reply Krishna called Shalya superior to Karna, Bhishma and Drona. Krishna always makes contradictory statements as per the situation. So stop trying to hide behind Krishna to defend that villain Karna.
      Arjuna is not even needed to defeat and kill Karna. Warriors like Abhimanyu, Satyaki, Citrasena, Ghatotkaca, Bhima, Dhrishtaydumna etc were alone more than enough as each of them had defeated and conquered karna multiple times.

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  8. So you admit that shalya was superior than bhisma ,Drona and karna ......apply your head if he was that good how many days he commandeered the army only half day .while others did more than him and if he was that good why wasn't he made commander in the first place.tell me why?

    Secondly do really think arjun could singlehandedly beat the kauravs without the help of Krishna . You think he is the greatest of all don't you ? Look the main warriors of kauravs had soft corner for the pandavas like bhisma ,Drona ,shalya ,kripa e.t.c and karna was bound with his words so none of them fought with their full potential.

    Coming to satyaki ,citrasen , ghatotkacha,dhristhadymn...you believe that they are far more superior and can be karna singlehandedly beat karna . So clarify this from day 11 to day 16 they didn't manage to kill 1 karna whom they could singlehandedly conquer and are considered far more superior by you.

    Look barbarik didn't only depended on his three arrows like arjun who depended on his archery only. Barbarik was a half demon and he also had same magical powers and was equal to his father ghatotkacha in sorcery too.

    Besides the best warrior doesn't excel in one field like arjun only in archery but masters all weapons and fighting styles like bhisma ,Drona ,karna and even bhima.so particularly arjun is out of the competition.and on being great in archery there were other people who suffered their lives with insults , hardships,suffering and pain to become the best but whereas arjun was just framed to be great .on other people's sacrifices and donations like eklavyas thumbs ,karna's armour and earrings,bhisma vows, Krishna's help,agnis divine bow and chariot .Indra Astra from Indra e.t.c which easily creates argument for his lower ranking. If he was that great what was the need of killing karna while he was retrieving his wheel.when he was weaponless and unarmed.what was his need to kill him when he was the most vulnerable, Why did he killed karna when both his curses were in acting ..I will tell you why because he also saw the caliber of karna that day and found that chance his only opportunity to kill him when he was unarmed and not fighting.retrieving his wheel .otherwise if he knew he would be never able to defeat him in kurukshetra in a duel.Why did he killed karna when both his curses were in acting ..I will tell you why because he also saw the caliber of karna that day and found that chance his as only opportunity to kill him when he was unarmed and not fighting.retrieving his wheel .otherwise if he would be never able to kill him in kurukshetra. Same goes for bhisma why did he killed him with the help of shikandi...and Drona ,he made his brother lie to drona that his son died so Drona could become weaponless .

    And you say characters of Mahabharata makes contradictory statement.do not try to defend or hide the weakness of Arjuna by saying that .no matter how many instances you give by arjun .I can bring the same amount of text from the same book.

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    1. Why do you want to know my opinion? Lol Karna's opinion is alone more than enough.
      Karna believed that Arjuna alone could single handedly defeat the Kauravas.
      Arjuna already defeated them all at Virata Parva. He just spared their lives to give them a taste of what was to come.
      Karna himself accepted this: So also, in Virata's city, moving on a single car he vanquished all of us, and snatched from us that wealth of kine, and took from all the foremost of car-warriors (portions of) their garments.
      Source - http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08079.htm But of course even if Karna himself tells you this you won't believe him.

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    2. Your comments so how uninformed and uneducated you are about the Mahabharata.
      Citrasena was a Gandharva who defeated Karna prior to the Kurukshetra war. He was not involved in any the war of 18 days. He defeated Karna BEFORE. And this same Citrasena could not kill Karna he could only defeat him. Because kavacha kundala saved Karna and Karna ran away hijacking a chariot to flee the battlefield. That is why Karna survived.
      Satyaki was a Yadava warrior who fought on the side of the Pandavas during Kuruksetra. He was a commander of one of their 7 divisions of troops. He defeated Karna 8 times total (one on day 12, three on day 14, two on day 15, 1 on day 16, and even one on day 17). In all of these defeats Karna either ran away or was rescued by other warriors of his army who interfered in the duels between him and Satyaki when they saw Karna's life was endangered. But Satyaki did spare Karna's life once on day 14. He spared karna's life because he did not want to falsify his preceptor Arjuna's words. Arjuna was the teacher of Satyaki and had vowed to kill Karna. So Satyaki obviously wanted to protect his words.
      Dhrishtadyumna only defeated karna two times but could never kill karna. Reasons are obviously because he wanted his brother-in-law Arjuna's words to be protected and Karna escaped by leaving the fight. If you want evidence i can give it to you.

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    3. Once again Barbareek never even existed in the Mahabharata.
      Barbareek is only mentioned in the Puranas which are all fan-fiction accounts. Each Purana favors their own god and says they are the foremost. Skanda Purana says Skanda is the best, Devi Purana says the Devi's created the world, Vishnu Purana says that Vishnu created Brahma and told him to create the cosmos, Shiva Purana says something different. None of these Purana's are consistent sources. Each of the Purana's were made long after Mahabharata. They're all fake false stories and mythology unlike Mahabharata.
      Mahabharata and Ramayana are all actual stories that happened once upon a time but nothing in the Purana's ever happened. In the Mahabharata you don't find the name of Barbareek written in their. As per the timeline of Skanda Purana the incident of Barbareek should have happened back in either Udyoga Parva (Book 5) or Stri Parva (Book 11) but was never even mentioned in their.
      Link to Udyoga Parva - http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m05/index.htm
      Link to Stri Parva - http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m11/index.htm
      So don't rely on such fan-fiction like Skanda Purana or any Purana for that matter. We're talking about Mahabharata over here.

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    4. Krishna also said that Satyaki is superior to Karna:Thus addressed by Savyasachin, the mighty-armed Kesava, endued with great energy, replied in these opportune words, 'The mighty-armed Satyaki is singly a match for Karna, O son of Pandu! How much superior then will this bull among the Satwatas be when he is united with the two sons of Drupada!
      Source - http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07143.htm
      Krishna even called karna an insect: The Suta's son Karna, though a fierce warrior, encountering Partha, came to his end on the second day, like an insect encountering a blazing fire.
      Source - http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m14/m14060.htm

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    5. Arjuna did not only depend on his archery he also had other skills. Check out his physical strength.
      He was stronger than Karna physically. Source -http://logicastra.blogspot.com/2017/03/arjuna-ultimate-warrior-respect-thread.html
      And I never said Arjuna was the foremost of all he's just better than Karna. But your feeble mind doesn't understand that. Instead you come to stupid conclusions like me saying that Arjuna is the best. Krishna also said Arjuna is the best but you never say anything about that.

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    6. Those curses were fake lies. Karna never forgot how to sue his Brahamstra. He used it multiple times on Arjuna during the 17th day but Arjuna nullified it everysingle time. It is Karna who failed to nullify Arjuna's weapons. for people like you Karna injuring Arjuna is worser than Karna running away.
      Karna never once succeeded in defeating Arjuna is entire life. He is defeated in every encounter between them.
      Now to come to Karna's other curse it's just a dumb excuse. Karna could have challenged Arjuna to fight on the ground but he didn't. While Krishna tried to bring up Arjuna's chariot Karna shot arrows at him despite the fact that Krishna was unarmed...
      When Sanajya narrates the death of Karna Dhritarashtra says that Karna was on his chariot when he died. It is also described how Shalya drove Karna's chariot away. This proves that their may have not even been a curse. It may just ahve been temporarily.
      Even Arjuna was cursed twice. But Arjuna overcame his obstacles and curses, arjuna turned his curses into boons. Karna never did this, karna instead always cried about his life. He's just a pity figure.

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    7. and by the way 5 years later pajeet, even dhrishtadyumn was commander for 17 days (Sweta was commander for day 1) that is longer than bhishma, karna, drona combined

      so just being commander for so many days does not make u that great

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  9. Karna although equipped with kavacha kundala was still defeated by Drupada, Pradyumna, Arjuna, Bhima & the Gandharvas.

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  10. I can give my views if you don't get angry. I have thoroughly read all of Karna’s defeats as mentioned by you. In some cases you have said that Karna’s assailants pierced him with arrows and then you have ended. But does this mean that Karna gets defeated if his assailants pierced him with arrows ? Like in case of Dhristadymna vs Karna you have said that Dhristadymna pierced Karna with arrows and then you have ended. In this cases you have not convincingly depicted defeat of Karna. I know why in case of Dhristadymna vs Karna you have ended immediately after saying that Dhristadymna pierced Karna. Piercing is the way of duelling with someone not defeating someone. In another case you have stated that Satyaki pierced Karna and through afflicted Karna still approached him and continued to duel with him. Is this a defeat of Karna ? I cannot accept the defeat of Karna against Drupada as it is an interpolation according to BORI. Similarly i cannot consider the defeat of Karna in group attack against Satyaki in a 15th day. The defeat of Karna against Bhima on 17th day is also an interpolation. BORI is the work of 50 years of reasearch by scholars all across India so please don't call it fake. However i can take into account defeat of Karna against Arjuna in swayamvar parva and Bhima in Anga war. I do not unnecessarily criticize anyone. So i am not criticizing you. You have clearly depicted many clear defeats of Karna. So i can appreciate your post. But at the same time i cannot consider some fake defeats of Karna. Thanks for reading my reply.

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    1. I understand your views, and i was waiting for someone to point that out. now a year later (finally someone had common sense to point this flaw out in my post).
      That's why i created a MORE UNBIASED AND DETAILED POST called analysis of Karna's performance in the Kurukshetra war (no defeats BEFORE Kurukshetra are included though). Here is the link to my new post - https://logicastra.blogspot.com/2017/12/analyzing-karnas-performance-in.html it might take you many days to read it. But it is a more mature and overall far better than THIS post. And by the way Gita Press Mahabharata also includes the Drupada defeat of Karna.
      Overall Karna was defeated at-least 30 times in the kurukshetra war alone.

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    2. By the way the 17th day Bhima defeat of Karna is included by BORI CE Mahabharata too. Dhritarashtra (who was pro-Kauravas & Karna) accepted this fact.

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    3. Yes you are absolutely right. The defeat of Karna against Bhima on the 17th day is absolutely true. By mistake i had written it to be a fake one. Plz don't mind it.

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    4. But i cannot consider the defeat of karna against Drupada in guru dakshina war. It is obviously an interpolation according to BORI. Geeta press, KMG, and clay sanskrit library are not the authentic versions. The only authentic edition available in the world is BORI. BORI has taken into account all the versions available and has published a edition free of all later contaminations. BORI is the version closest to Vyasa's mind. So i can take views based upon BORI only. Not any other versions. You blog is quite nice since you have depicted many defeats of Karna from KMG. Many of them are present in BORI too. So your blog is worthy of appreciation.

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    5. I am looking forward to read your unbiased and new blog which was mentioned by you earlier.

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    6. Aditya it was already done a long time ago here - https://logicastra.blogspot.com/2017/12/analyzing-karnas-performance-in.html Read it.

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    7. karna fought against Drupad many times and lost you need to understand this Drupad was one of the finest archers, he was equal to Bhagdatta the same Drupad defeated Bhishma and Drona once

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    8. drona's student arjuna defeated drupada

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    9. because arjun was better than napunsak hanuman and parshuram

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  11. You are right. The defeat of Karna against Bhima on the 17th day is absolutely true. By mistake i wrote that in my previous post.Please don't mind it. Just because of carelessness i had made such a mistake.

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    1. yes aditya u are very careless sometimes and i know someone is either going to screenshot/read this comment

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  12. I accept that Karna is a best archer but not as invincible but by some T V serials spoiled the originality of Mahabharatha.I need not to be tell anything about the defeat of Karna bcoz above mentioned. Krishna told Arjuna to kil Karna unfairly becoz he was using vijay bow so , thats the reason for Arjuna's chariot went 2 steps back and also encounterin brahmastra by normal arrows that vijaya bow made him invincible
    But Arjuna during jayadrath parva when his horses tired and thirsty he came down from chariot and fought with all mighty that time Arjuna didn't beg anyone that until he gives waters to his horse no one should fight him here, again it is prooved that Arjuna is greater than Karna
    And lastly people who think that Karna counterd nagasthra that is false actually Thakshak son Asjwasena was sat on normal arrow hence Krishna saved from this

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    1. First of all Krishna did not tell Arjuna to kill Karna unfairly. If you read BORI CE's text then Karna was not on his chariot but he had his Vijaya bow in his hands.
      The Vijaya bow could not protect Karna from group attacks. Karna never pushed Arjuna's chariot. The pushing of chariots is fake theory because in the war no one tried to push a chariot. Ever.

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    2. Bhimsen thrown away more than 15 chariots of Dronacharya with his bare hands.

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    3. But Arjun's chariot went back two steps is non sense, illogical and absurd imagination. Dhritarashtr himself declared Karna a durbuddhi. Kamna always tell duryodhan that I will alone defeat pandava what a self declared hero he was.

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    4. Karna is alsways a villain. He was not a donor, not a warrior, not even a human. Merciless, Ruthless, Culture-less, unethical beast : Karna. Refer my blogs. https://sriharshamanchukonda.blogspot.com/2020/05/previous-birth-story-of-karna-secrets.html
      https://sriharshamanchukonda.blogspot.com/2020/05/karna-coward-car-warrior-with-most-no.html
      https://sriharshamanchukonda.blogspot.com/2020/05/karna-reel-hero-but-real-villain.html
      Still if people admire and worship Karna, they are brainless and senseless

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    5. karna wasn't great, he killed his own soldiers like a coward, anyone who fought under his command would feel embarassed that they are being led by a namard like karna he is lower than rajpal yadavs tati

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  13. While the sutaputra was lifting his chariot wheel, the Great great Arjuna killed him. Arjun the great 😁

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    1. he did what a sher and mard would do, Arjuna killed karna because karna was a kutta who barked too much

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  14. And karna apso defeated by Abhimunyu 6 times
    Now so many people are gonna oppose me
    But truth is bitter Abhimunyu with the chariot wheel killed 10000 warriors and Karna was on 4th dwaar but still Abhimanyu beated him like a dog and karna again and again came after for a fight after losing 6 times he went near acharya drona and asked how to kill HIM...
    Acharya knows h(karn) can do nothing against anyone
    So kauravas in group killed him badly
    Now drishtadyuman
    He killed all of his piece of army and cutted his bow
    Karn again fled from battlefebat
    Arjuna defeated him 2 times but Karna like a dog'shit come back with his vijay bow
    IN ORIGINAL PHRASES OF MAHABHARAT IT IS STATED THAT ARJUNA SINGLE HANDEDLY KILLED THE SHIT OUT OFF KARNA WITHOUT THE HELP OF KRISHNA
    But kauravas and pandavas started fighting on that day like nothing happened
    Peace

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    1. Who are you ? It seems you was real witness of whole Mahabharata war means you was Barbreek Head this time? Bloody Fool.

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    2. i am the guy who raped hanumans mom and fucked mata seetha and laxmi in the ass with my 6 inch (22 centimeter) penis AND parshurams mother loved me

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  15. If that coward Arjun was so great why his disgraceful father Indra had to demand Karnas Kavachkundalas? Why arjuna had to defeat karna when he was lifting wheel of his chariot without any weapons in his hands?
    Arjuna had to defeat him by breaking rules of war.
    Arjuna was just like his Father Indra full of arrogance.

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    1. I will answer your question. I have content. I will give you counter

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    2. https://sriharshamanchukonda.blogspot.com/2020/05/previous-birth-story-of-karna-secrets.html
      Read above article completely. It is answer for all your silly & useless questions. Still if you have doubts, please comment me on my blog.

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    3. https://sriharshamanchukonda.blogspot.com/2020/05/previous-birth-story-of-karna-secrets.html

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    4. Maybe Indra did those things because BECAUSE karna was a devotee of indra and sucked indra's dick three times on the 16th day

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  16. Abe ye kaisa writwr hai jo mun mai iske karna kai liye jo jealousy hai wo isliye jo mun mai aaraha wo hi likhta ja raha abe iss ghtiya writer ko nikalo jo kmg or bori ko sammelen nhi kar raha hai

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    1. 1st know truth and then speak. Half knowledge and partial knowledge people speak more than complete knowledge.

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  17. Excellent post. People get swayed by TV serials and interpolated folklore and glorify Karna. Just before slaying Karna, Arjun had him at his mercy but spared his life. It is narrated in all the unabridged Mahabharats that during their final duel Arjun wounded Karna so badly that he started vomiting blood and lost consciousness but the true natured, highest among men Arjun did not wish to kill Karna in that state and desisted from shooting any more arrows at his adversary and allowed him to recover. This is one of the numerous times Arjun spared Karna who always ran away after being defeated by him.

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    1. That's great info. I never read or heard this. I know that Arjun spared him many times and that timid coward Karna ran away from Arjun like a dog runs away from sight of a lion. Good info.

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    2. After this, Lord Krishna, the protector of His devotee, personally pulled Arjuna's chariot out of the earth, and again Arjuna proceeded against Karna. Those two great heroes began to pierce each other with their blood sucking arrows and sent up loud roars on the field of battle. Arjuna then shattered the crown, earrings and armor that Karna was wearing. Having deprived Karna of his protection, he then pierced him with many arrows causing him great pain. Karna dropped his bow and sat down on the seat of his chariot. Arjuna, who was conversant with the codes of fighting, did not wish to kill Karna in that condition. However, Krishna said to the mighty armed son of Kunti, "Why, O son of Pandu, have you become so forgetful of the sins this man has committed. Do not spare him. Kill him immediately!"

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  18. Arjun was biggest coward run away from rbbers So arjuna Was bigget coward And Arjuna was biggest Road side dog Like coward and sinner

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    1. He wasn't a vile braggart like Karna. He did not abuse women and order them to be disrobed. When Arjun suffered that defeat at the hands of the Abhiras he was an old man. Arjun never ran away from battle like that coward Karna. He could not protect his own son from Arjun who challenged him to save him. Karna insulted Bheem after defeating him after losing to him several times. Bheem spared him each time because it was Arjun's vow to kill Karna. Please read the Mahabharat and you will realize what sort of an evil and cowardly person Karna was.

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    2. Arjun never ran away like your God Karna. That scoundrel Karna didn't have guts to face a dragon like Arjuna and Lion like Bhima in battle field and hence insulted Draupadi at time of dice game. That rascal waited for dice game. If he was a warrior, he would have taken at time of war. Attacking a woman with harsh words doesn't seem heroism. A Man is one who saves woman. Karna is not even a man.

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  19. Karna fans ill treat women as their idol did. Karna fans are womanizers. They will call a sacred woman as unchaste, suggest vastrapaharan etc. all unethical things. Karna fans are really great because they make and speak all illogical statements

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    1. And arjuns fans sell there wifes just over random girls fuck nagas donate 1600 women 😂😂

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    2. And arjun fans sell there wife just over random women fuck nagas sell slaves 😂😂 call all women who marry 💍low caste men adhrmi unchaste and sinfull burn low caste to death burn whole forest again just over a girl and immediately 😂😂 ask for marriage shameless 😂😂

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    3. Haha it was Lord Shiva who boon Draupadi.So it was destined.But you Murkh Karn fans will never accept.And one thing more to be told is that You can even blame Lord Shiva and Krishan just for saving your evil Karna.😂😂😀😀

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  20. Bana le beta chutiya bana le public ko yahi aukat bori ce ke 2016 version se likh ke dikha in kmg in @12 group attacks karna defeated all your pandav khandan 😂😂 so don't bullshit🐂💩 logicastra in drupad war karna never went as per mahabharat only kuruvanshi went and kurus won chutiya nahi banane ka 😂😂 it's given that gandharis son went in kmg while in bori all kurus went no son of radha went for gurudakshina tumhara pura sab ka sab manipulated hai 😂😂 pagal sala

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    1. Yehi sawal tum log Karn andh bhakt jo ki facebook pr Arjun ko gali de rhe hain, unse kyun nhi puchh lete ho.☺

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  21. Virat never defeated karna infact karna resist him with his army. As for drupad, bheem and nakul they were defeated by karna son Vrishasen

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    1. it just proves that Vrishasen was a better fighter than karna if you were to make a list of warriors than you should put vrishasen ahead of karna

      drupad did not use his best tools on vrishasen though and he was fighting in night time before torches of FIRE were lit thats the only time he lost

      even if you dont agree with these things at least accept that Bhishma was below Drupad, Karna, Vrishasen as a fighter

      Bhishma is more overrated than karna is

      and dont bring up the fucking parashuram incident, anyone who has sammohanastra can kick your namard parashurams ass easily Dhirshtadyumn, Drona they were better fighters than Parashuram

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    2. actually virat used a ordinary spear to defeat karna (11th-day)

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    3. well its a comment thats not meant to be taken seriously, karna was better than virat, but he was inferior to other warriors

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    1. yes i admit that whenever i talked about shiva vs arjuna then i was just lying at that time to troll karna fans and make karna fans angry

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  23. Very important information for Karna fans .Great post

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  24. a. Satyaki defeated Karna on the 12th day. On being defeated by Satyaki, Karna was clueless. He had to be rescued by the likes of Drona, Duryodhana and Jayadratha.

    b. There was an encounter between Satyaki and Karna on the 14th day, after Jayadratha’s death at Arjuna’s hands. Satyaki, riding on Lord Krishna’s chariot, defeated Karna after a fierce fight.

    c. Satyaki defeated the foremost Kuru warriors including the likes of Drona, Kripa and Karna on the 15th day. Such was Satyaki’s prowess, that even Arjuna couldn’t help but to praise him repeatedly.

    These are three instances in BORI where Satyaki convincingly defeated Karna in the Kurukshetra war.

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    1. No you missed the 17th day, 16th day, 14th night and other instances like day 11 where Satyaki defeated Karna.

      Karna was not a match for Satyaki, karna was not among top 15 warriors.

      Arjuna's son Srutakarman, brother Nakul defeated karna.

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  25. To all readers of this post i will have to tell you that it is 90 percent accurate, ten percent false but the IMPROVED POST I MADE AT THE END OF THE YEAR (2017) is 100 percent accurate its written below:

    https://logicastra.blogspot.com/2017/12/analyzing-karnas-performance-in.html

    The only problem & issue this has is LENGTH that is the main problem. Its too long to read.

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  26. He along with all other kuru warriors exception bhishma was defeated by son of lord krishna " sambh" when he kidnapped daughter of duryodhana

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    1. it would be too much to include that as well, karna was in my eyes worthless as a warrior than Kritvarma, Jayadratha, Kripacharya, and even Duryodhan (although duryodhan lost alot too), Duryodhan was a capable archer

      their needs to be a movement dedicated to trashing karna like people trash islam

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  27. Can someone please tell me which book should i prefer for mahabharat... i am a beginner...

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    1. here is a link to it
      https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m01/m01191.htm

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  28. Lol you have mentioned normal piercing as defeat like Dristadyumna pierced karna with some arrows that means he defeated him WTF ok you have mentioned all those defeats of Karna but please mention how these warriors who defeated him also got defeated back by him, from Satyaki to Bheema everyone got defeated by him please mention those things also, and About the Gandharvas battle you better understand that Karna was the only one who put up a fight against them, killing hundreds of Gandharvas the other kuru warriors were no match that's why all the Gandharvas focused only on Karna and group attacked him he didn't have his Vijaya dhanush that's why he had to retreat by mounting on Vikarna's chariot after his chariot got broken by Gandharvas, he didn't fled he retreated to prepare himself and came back to defeat all of the remaining Gandharvas but that time the four Pandavas had already did the work, don't know why people like you hate Karna so much in Draupadi's swayambhar someone like you said in his vlog that Karna retreated like a coward by saying that it's not ethical to fight with a Brahmin with supernatural powers, really?? Why you people forget that only he's the only one who was fighting that Brahmin(Arjuna disguised) equally and even avoiding all his attacks, he was fighting so skillfully that the kings present there were cheering for him, so you want to say that such a fearless and skilled warrior who was fighting his opponent equally suddenly developed fear and retreated from the fight? Satyaki defeated him only once on 14th day after he got Krishna's divine chariot but rest of the battles Karna badly defeated him, on 14th night and on 17th day, Bhima overpowered him on 14th day almost whole day they fought and Bhima continued overpowering him and killing Kaurava brothers infront of him but it's also mentioned that Bhima was fighting and attacking with full power where Karna was attacking with mild power, smiling all the time and when Bhima killed many Kaurava brothers infront of him only then he became serious and at the ending of their fight he defeated Bhima, touched his neck with his dhanush which was snatched by Bhima but then again snatched heroically by Karna and he insulted Bhima badly....Please do mention all these things don't try to show one sided story yes Karna had some defeats in his lifetime but he defeated all those warriors back even more badly, only except Arjuna with whom he didn't win a single battle but during their last battle he gave outstanding performance and overpowered Arjuna many times which he was not able to do in their previous fights just because of the curses Arjuna managed to kill him from this incident it can be indicated that Karna always tried to avoid using his Vijaya dhanush when facing Arjuna because using Vijaya means he has dmfight using full power and that means the curses will have their effect that's why he never used his full power against Arjuna in their previous fights except the final fight where he was in Do or Die position...

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    1. Dushyant Singh (beta of randi Urmila)Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 1:41:00 PM PDT

      Their isnt a point in arguing with a guy who is the son of a indian army officer who got his ass kicked by pakistanis and then a british LADY pooped in his mouth and made him beg for mercy, that guy is every karna fan who is the son of a coward and pees his pants each time when a non indian comes to slap all hanuman bhakts.
      But for the sake of argument i will mention 1 POINT which a namard like you will never accept meaning that Arjuna killed 1 million Gandharvas but karna ran from just one hundred of them, this shows the difference in their powers

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    2. Satyaki defeated Karna on the 12th day fairly, karna was armed with help from 20 different warriors. It was group vs group.

      Karna & his foster brothers & 15 other followers and the Nishad raja (relative of Eklavya) fought against Satyaki, Arjuna, Bheem, Dhrishtadyumn.

      What happened is that karna lost a fight, his foster brothers were murdered by Arjuna. The nishad king/raja/monarch was killed by Dhrishtadyumn.

      Their are other occasions where Satyaki proved his skill as a fighter against Karna like the 15th day (before drona died). And the 14th night (before ghatotkaca died).

      So dont underrate Satyaki and overrate karna again.

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  29. Oh my God! Thank you so much for this post!
    But still Karna fans will live in their own dreamland

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    1. I already know that u are also a supporter of that namard hijda Hanuman. He is also weak and ugly and a loser and a adharmi like karna. Hanuman is weaker than karna because hanuman is vulnerable to any weapon.
      Stop overrating a chakka and chutiya like hanumanji.
      I dont care if you dislike/hate Karna, but if you support Hanuman then you are a dushman of mine.

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  30. Bhai apko sayad pta nhi hai ke drupada ne karn ka haraya nhi tha

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  31. Meru pettinadhi antha chuse chadhivantha veere vallu leru

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