- This post will cover all the battles Satyaki and Karna fought each other in. They always fought with bows and arrows.
- Samsaptakabadha Parva (Initial days of Drona's commander ship after Bhishma's death and Karna's entry).
- Sini's grandson also, of splendour equal to that of Indra himself, taking up another bow pierced Suta's son with four and sixty shafts and roared like a lion. And cutting off Karna's bow with a couple of well-shot shafts, he once more pierced Karna on the arms and the chest with three arrows. The king Duryodhana, and Drona and Jayadratha, rescued Karna from the Satyaki-ocean, as the former was about to sink into it. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07030.htm - (Chapter Link)
- And over here Satyaki clearly defeated Karna. Satyaki cut off Karna's bow, pierced karna on his arms and chest and pierced his body all over with arrows.
- Some people state that prior to this incident Satyaki attacked Karna in a group, but still Karna was unable to counter this group attack and was defeated by this group attack.
- In the above mentioned passage of text it's clear that no one interfered in their fight it was just Satyaki vs karna no third person is described until karna was losing.
- Group attacks were very common in the war and Karna used group attacks on Satyaki 3 times and Satyaki defeated Karna every time just read below.
Explanation: This passage says that Satyaki was like an ocean that Karna was drowning in and Karna had to be rescued from the danger of Satyaki's attacks by Jayadratha, Drona and Suyodhana.
- Jayadratha-Vadha Parva (takes place after the death of Abhimanyu this battle covers 1/3rd of the chapters in Drona Parva Book 7, it explains how Arjuna, Satyaki, Yudhamanyu, Uttamaujas & Bhima get through over 20 miles of the millions of Kaurava troops).
- Beholding him filled with rage, Satyaki pierced him in return, shooting dense showers of arrows, like an elephant piercing (with his tusks) a rival elephant. Those two tigers among men, endued with the activity of tigers and possessed of incomparable prowess, mangled each other furiously in that battle. The grandson of Sini, then, with shafts made entirely of iron, repeatedly pierced Karna, that chastiser of foes, in all his limbs. And he also felled, with a broad-headed arrow, the charioteer of Karna from his niche in the car. And with his keen shafts, he slew the four steeds, white in hue, of Adhiratha's son. And then cutting into a hundred fragments the standard of Karna with a hundred arrows, that bull among men made Karna carless in the very sight of thy son. Then all thy warriors, O king, became cheerless. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07143.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Then Vrishasena, the son of Karna, and Salya, the ruler of the Madras, and Drona's son, encompassed the grandson of Sini from all sides. Then a confusion set in, and nothing could be seen. Indeed, when the heroic Karna was made carless by Satyaki, cries of Oh and Alas arose, among all thy troops. Karna also, O king, pierced by Satwata with his arrows and exceedingly weakened ascended the car of Duryodhana, sighing deeply, remembering his friendship for thy son from his childhood and having striven to realise the promise he had made about the bestowal of sovereignty on Duryodhana. After Karna hath been made carless, thy brave sons, headed by Duhsasana, O king, were not slain by the self-restrained Satyaki because the latter wished not to falsify the vow made by Bhimasena. Desirous also of not falsifying the vow formerly made by Partha (about the slaughter of Karna), Satyaki simply made those warriors carless and weakened them exceedingly, but did not deprive them of life. It is Bhima that hath vowed the slaughter of thy sons, and it is Partha that, at the time of the second match at dice, vowed the slaughter of Karna. Although all those warriors headed by Karna made strong efforts for slaying Satyaki, yet those foremost of car-warriors, failed to slay him. Drona's son and Kritavarman and other mighty car-warriors, as also hundreds of foremost Kshatriyas, were all vanquished by Satyaki with only one bow. That hero fought, desirous of benefiting king Yudhishthira the Just, and of attaining to heaven. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07143.htm - (Chapter Link) Explanation: Satyaki spared Karna's life over here, Satyaki did not just defeat Karna, he had also defeated Dussassana, Duryodhana, Kaurava brothers, Aswathamman (son of Drona), Kritavarman, and Vrishasena the eldest son of Karna.
- Ghatotkacha-Badha Parva (After the death of Jayadratha this battle covers 1/5th of the sections in Book 7 Drona Parva, Kauravas Duryodhana Karna and Drona try to get revenge after Jayadratha was killed, this whole entire battle took place during night time when the sky was dark).
- Meanwhile, Satyaki, of the Dasarha race, scattering his shafts as he proceeded, reached the spot where, the valiant Dhrishtadyumna was battling. Beholding that invincible warrior of the Satwata race advancing, Radha's son pierced him in that battle with ten arrows. Satyaki, then, O king, pierced Karna with ten shafts in the very sight of all those heroes, and addressing him, said, 'Do not fly away but stay before me.' The encounter then, that took place between mighty Satyaki and the industrious Karna, resembled, O king, that between Vali and Vasava (in p. 392 the days of yore). That bull among Kshatriyas, viz., Satyaki, terrifying all the Kshatriyas with the rattle of his car, pierced the lotus-eyed Karna in return (with many arrows). Making the earth tremble with the twang of his bow, the mighty son of the Suta, O monarch, contended with Satyaki. Indeed, Karna pierced the grandson of Sini in return with hundreds of long, and barbed, and pointed, and tall-toothed, and razor-headed arrows and diverse other shafts. Similarly, that foremost one of Vrishni's race, Yuyudhana, in that battle,
shrouded Karna with his arrows. For a time that battle proceeded equally. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07167.htm - (Chapter Link) Over here Satyaki initially had the advantage and was quite easily defeating Karna but then Karna manged to equal Satyaki's feats. In the end of this fight neither of them proved superior but Satyaki had the upper-hand in the beginning of this fight. So Satyaki deserves more credit and brownie points here. - Then thy son, O monarch, placing Karna at their head, all pierced Satyaki from every side with keen arrows. Resisting with his own weapons those of them all and of Karna also, O lord, Satyaki quickly pierced Vrishasena in the centre of the chest. Pierced with that arrow, the valiant Vrishasena, of great splendour, quickly fell down on his car, casting aside his bow. Then Karna, believing that mighty car-warrior, viz., Vrishasena, slain, became scorched with grief on account of the death of his son and began to afflict Satyaki with great force. Thus afflicted by Karna, the mighty car-warrior Yuyudhana, with great speed, repeatedly pierced Karna with many shafts. Once more piercing Karna with ten arrows, and Vrishasena with five, the Satwata hero cut off the leathern fences and the bows of both sire and son. Then those two warriors, stringing two other bows, capable of inspiring enemies with terror, began to pierce Yuyudhana from every side with keen shafts. During the progress of that fierce conflict that was so destructive of heroes the loud twang of Gandiva, O king, was heard over every other sound. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07167.htm - (Chapter Link) Explanation: Although this fight did not reach much of a conclusion no one can deny the fact that Satyaki clearly had the upper hand in this fight. He was outnumbered yet he still managed to wound Vrishasena to a extent that Karna believed his son was dead. And he was still able to disarm both of his opponents of their bows and leathern fences. The only feats Karna and Vrishasena achieved in this fight are them wounding Satyaki with arrows and piercing him. Such a feat has been achieved by every warrior. And it should be noted that after this incident Karna came with a proposal to Duryodhana that they should surround Satyaki as he can't defeat him in a solo fight.
- Drona-Vadha Parva (the day of Drona's death, this battle was 8 chapters long, but it was one of the most dramatic battles of the war, in it Satyaki fought with Karna twice despite having the odds stacked up against him).
- That shaft, however, Satyaki cut off by means of ten arrows, in the very sight of thy son as also of the high-souled Karna, as thus rescued Dhrishtadyumna who was on the point of succumbing to Drona. Then Kesava and Dhananjaya beheld Satyaki of prowess incapable of being baffled, who, O Bharata, was thus careering in the car-tracks (of the Kuru warriors) and within the range of the shafts of Drona and Karna and Kripa. Saying. 'Excellent, Excellent!' both of them loudly applauded Satyaki of unfading glory, who was thus destroying the celestial weapons of all those warriors. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07188.htm - (Chapter Link) Over here Satyaki had destroyed all the celestial weapons of Karna and Karna's comrades. Karna teamed up with his 2 gurus (Drona & Kripa) to fight Satyaki yet he still was unable to gain any notable victory over Satyaki in this fight.
- 'Beholding those feats of the Satwata hero, Duryodhana and others, filled with rage, quickly encompassed the grandson of Sini on all sides. Kripa and Karna, of also thy sorts, O sire, in that battle, quickly approaching the grandson of Sini, began to strike him with keen arrows. Then king Yudhishthira, and the two other Pandavas, viz., the two sons of Madri and Bhimasena of great might surrounded Satyaki (for protecting him). Karna, and the mighty car-warrior Kripa, and Duryodhana and others, all resisted Satyaki, pouring showers of arrows on him. The grand p. 450 son of Sini, however, contending with all those car-warriors, baffled, O monarch, that terrible downpour of arrows, so suddenly created by his foes. Indeed, in that dreadful battle, Satyaki, by means of his own celestial weapons, duly resisted all those celestial weapons aimed at him by those illustrious warriors. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07189.htm - (Chapter Link) Karna attacked Satyaki with the help of other warriors like Kripa & Duryodhana. Over here Satyaki held off the 3 Maharathas, and he countered all of their celestial weapons.
- Narayanastra-Mokshana Parva (this part of Kurukshetra happened after the death of Drona, the Kaurava army was unorganized and had no one general who they could fight under)
- When the preceptor's son had fallen into that plight, thy son, that car-warrior, accompanied by Kripa and Karna and others began to cover the Satwata hero with arrows. All of them began quickly to pierce Satyaki from every side with keen shafts, Duryodhana pierced him with twenty, Saradwat's son, Kripa, with three. And Kritavarman pierced him with ten, and Karna with fifty. And Duhsasana pierced him with a hundred arrows, and Vrishasena with seven. Satyaki, however, O king, soon made all those great car-warriors fly away from the field, deprived of their cars. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07197.htm - (Chapter Link)Over here Karna tried to team up with others in hopes of getting an oppurtunity to defeat Satyaki. But instead of victory he met defeat again! He was defeated by Satyaki, he lost and had to run away with all of his comrades as well. Honestly speaking this has got to be on of the most humiliating defeats Satyaki gave to Karna. Karna teamed up with 5 others yet he still got fu*ked up by Satyaki.
- Karna Parva (the book of karna depicts the battle during the time that Karna was the general of the Kaurava army and led them)
- Then the son of Surya, resembling the chief of the celestials himself in prowess and like unto the younger brother of Indra, struck that foremost one of Sini's race with shafts whose splendour resembled the rays of the Sun. That bull of Sini's race also, in that battle, then quickly shrouded that foremost of men, with his car and steeds and driver, with diverse kinds of shafts terrible as the poison of the snake. Then many Atirathas belonging to thy army, accompanied by elephants and cars and foot-soldiers, quickly
approached that bull among car-warriors, viz., Vasusena, when they beheld the latter deeply afflicted with the shafts of that foremost hero of Sini's race. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08030.htm - (Chapter Link)Explanation: destiny saved Karna again, he had to be rescued after he lost to Satyaki the umpteenth time. Seeing their general severely wounded the Kaurava car-warriors had to come to help him, they had to intervene in the fight to make sure Satyaki doesn't kick their commander Karna's A$$.
- At this, Karna, leaving Satyaki quickly pierced Arjuna with three arrows and Krishna with twenty, and Partha again repeatedly. Although many were the arrows that he shot while slaying his foes in that battle, like Indra himself inspired with wrath, Karna yet felt no fatigue. Meanwhile Satyaki, coming up, pierced Karna with nine and ninety fierce arrows, and once more with a hundred. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08030.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Explanation: In this incident Karna clearly tried to run away from Satyaki, so Satyaki had to chase him down and shoot him with almost 200 arrows. Karna was a coward who refused to finish the fight he started.
- The son of the Wind-god, filled with wrath, and covering the entire welkin with his shafts, shrouded Karna with thick showers of arrows as the latter pursued the king from behind. The son of Radha then, that crusher of foes, turning back from the pursuit, quickly covered Bhima himself with sharp arrows from every side. Then Satyaki, of immeasurable soul, O Bharata, placing himself on the side of Bhima's car, began to afflict Karna who was in front of Bhima. Though exceedingly afflicted by Satyaki, Karna still approached Bhima. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08051.htm - (Chapter Link)
The passage above suggests that Karna was scared of fighting Satyaki once again because he knew he would lose. So he decided to run away and switch opponents automatically after Satyaki was done using Karna for archery practice. Karna stopped fighting Satyaki and moved on to another warrior just after being wounded by a few arrows of Satyaki. Coward Karna exposed once again. Bloody loser warna. Bloody loser vasusena.
- "'Meanwhile the mighty Karna, having vanquished Satyaki and desirous of rescuing the (Kuru) king, proceeded straight against the face of Drona's slayer, that warrior of fierce shafts. The grandson of Sini, however, quickly pursued him from behind, striking him with his arrows, like an elephant pursuing a rival and striking him at the hinder limbs with his tusks. http://sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08056.htm - (Chapter linK)
- This one does not make much sense. The above passage says that Karna vanquished Satyaki (grandson of sini), yet it also says Satyaki continued to pursue Karna for a fight. Thus this cannot be termed as a defeat of Satyaki. it is basically karna running away from a combat with Satyaki. Either that or a translation error.
- Misconception about the help of divine chariot. Karna fans like to cover up the facts and hide the true story about his defeats by saying that Satyaki had a special chariot given to him and a special driver like Daruka.
- Satyaki only had that special chariot and Daruka for less than an hour during the Jayadratha-Vadha Parva for a short amount of time. He got it after he killed Bhurishravas and lost it after the end of the battle. Satyaki still yet defeated Karna many times.
- Satyaki defeated Karna even during Karna Parva when Karna had Shalya as his charioteer.
- When Karna was made generalissimo of the Kaurava army still he was defeated by Satyaki.
- Satyaki defeated Karna during the day of Drona's death as well.
- Satyaki defeated Karna and his son Vrishasena before Karna killed Ghatotkaca too.
- Satyaki even defeated Karna during the 12th day.
- What excuses do you Karna fans have for his above listed defeats at the hands of Satyaki now then?
- Clearly in many conditions with or without a special chariot Satyaki still defeated Karna.
- Karna also had a great driver like Shalya whose knowledge of horses was unmatched by anyone except for Krishna's: As that slayer of foes, viz., he of Dasharha's race, is acquainted with horselore, even so is that mighty car-warrior, viz., Shalya acquainted with horselore. There is none equal to the chief of the Madras in might of arms. As there is none equal to myself in weapons, so there is none equal to Shalya in knowledge of steeds. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08031.htm
- On the 14th day a special chariot was provided for Karna in this as well: A new cat was brought for Karna also, O king, unto which were yoked four steeds of the best breed that were decked in trappings of gold and white as conchs or milk. Its kaksha and standard were made of gold. Furnished with banners and machines, that foremost of cars had an excellent driver. And it was furnished with a profusion of weapons of every kind. Mounting on that car, Karna also rushed against his foes. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07143.htm - (Chapter Link) So Karna fans really cannot talk about having a special chariot.
- Among-st Satyaki and Karna clearly Satyaki emerges as the more superior warrior. Karna always needed to be rescued from Satyaki, he always had to run away from Satyaki, he always got disarmed by Satyaki, he was always made car less by Satyaki. Karna is always the one who was rescued the most by people he ran away the most too.
- Statement of Lord Krishna: Thus addressed by Savyasachin, the mighty-armed Kesava, endued with great energy, replied in these opportune words, 'The mighty-armed Satyaki is singly a match for Karna, O son of Pandu! How much superior then will this bull among the Satwatas be when he is united with the two sons of Drupada! http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07143.htm - (Chapter Link) Now we even know what Lord Krishna's opinion was regarding Satyaki vs Karna. If not eqaul to Karna then Satyaki is superior to Karna!
Monday, May 29, 2017
Karna vs Satyaki
Satyaki vs Karna
Sunday, May 28, 2017
SOME VERY LITTLE KNOWN FACTS ABOUT KARNA VS ARJUNA FINAL FIGHT DAY 17
In this post i will be discussing some very little known facts and incidents concerning the final fight between Karna & Arjuna in the Mahabharata. These incidents degrade Karna and expose the reality of his performance in the final fight he was becoming desperate and broke the rules. Not only that but Arjuna was quite restrained in the fight once he got angry he quite easily bested Karna. 6 out of 7 of these incidents can be found in Karna Parva Section 90.
- Karna himself chose Shalya as his charioteer, not the other way around: Though inferior to Arjuna in respect of these things, I still desire to fight with him. This Shalya, however, the ornament of assemblies, is equal to Saurin. If he becomes my driver, victory will certainly be thine. Let Shalya, therefore, who is incapable of being resisted by foes be the driver of my car. Let a large number of carts bear my long shafts and those that are winged with vulturine feathers. Let a number of foremost cars, O monarch, with excellent steeds yoked unto them, always follow me, O bull of Bharata's race. By these arrangements I will, as regards the qualities mentioned, be superior to Arjuna. Shalya is superior to Krishna, and I am superior to Arjuna. As that slayer of foes, viz., he of Dasharha's race, is acquainted with horselore, even so is that mighty car-warrior, viz., Shalya acquainted with horselore. There is none equal to the chief of the Madras in might of arms. As there is none equal to myself in weapons, so there is none equal to Shalya in knowledge of steeds. So circumstanced, I will become superior to Partha. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08031.htm
- So those people who say that Shalya's presence made Karna weaker are stupid.
- Karna cried in tears when his chariot wheel was swallowed: Seeing his wheel swallowed, the son of Radha shed tears from wrath, and beholding Arjuna, filled with rage he said these words, "O Partha, O Partha, wait for a moment, that is, till I lift this sunken wheel. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08090.htm
- Arjuna never cried when he was faced with such problems. But Karna however did, what a shame. What a pity.
- Shalya told Karna to aim properly to kill Arjuna with a shaft. But out of arrogance Karna did not listen: The Suta's son did not know that the snake Aswasena had entered his arrow by the aid of his Yoga powers. Beholding Vaikartana aim that arrow, the high-souled ruler of the Madras, addressing Karna, said, "This arrow, O Karna, will not succeed in striking off Arjuna's head. Searching carefully, fix another arrow that may succeed in striking off thy enemy's head." Endued with great activity, the Suta's son, with eyes burning in wrath, then said unto the ruler of the Madras, "O Shalya, Karna never aimeth an arrow twice. Persons like us never become crooked warriors." Having said these words, Karna, with great care, let off that shaft which he had worshipped for many long years. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08090.htm
- Never become crooked warriors? Hmph! Very contradictory of Karna to say this when he led so many group attacks against Pandava warriors like Satyaki, Abhimanyu, Dhrishtadyumna etc. He launched group attacks against Arjuna too.
- Karna attacked an unarmed lord Krishna when he was trying to lift Arjunas chariot out of the ground: After that snake had been cut off by Arjuna, the lord Keshava himself, O king, of massive arms, that foremost of beings, raised up with his arms that car from the earth. At that time, Karna, glancing obliquely at Dhananjaya, pierced that foremost of persons, viz., Krishna, with ten shafts whetted on stone and equipped with peacock feathers. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08090.htm
- This proves that whenever Karna is unable to prove his skill over Arjuna he has to go after Arjuna's friends and family.
- Yes charioteers like Krishna usually keep weapons and whips with them but Krishna was completely unarmed over here because all of his intention, arms and body/strength was focused on lifting Arjuna's chariot out of the ground. His arms were on the chariot, this was also the same position that Karna was in when he died.
- Arjuna had destroyed Karna's new kavacha kundala during this fight. Karna was divested of his armor and was basically disrobed. Arjuna disrobed Karna: The son of Pandu, however, could not endure his enemy's joy. Acquainted with all the vital parts of the human body, Partha, possessed of prowess like that of Indra, pierced those vital limbs with hundreds of arrows even as Indra had struck Vala with great energy. Then Arjuna sped ninety arrows, each resembling the rod of Death at Karna. Deeply pierced with those shafts, Karna trembled like a mountain riven with thunder. The head-gear of Karna, adorned with costly gems and precious diamonds and pure gold, as also his earrings, cut off by Dhananjaya with his winged arrows, fell down on the earth. The costly and bright armour also of the Suta's son that had been forged with great care by many foremost of artists working for a long time, the son of Pandu cut off within a moment in many fragments. After thus divesting him of his armour, Partha then, in rage, pierced Karna with four whetted shafts of great energy. Struck forcibly by his foe, Karna suffered great pain like a diseased person afflicted by bile, phlegm, wind, and fever. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08090.htm
- Arjuna wounded Karna with arrows to the extent that Karna was incapable of even wielding his Vijaya bow: Deeply struck by Partha with those diverse arrows of keen points and fierce energy, Karna (covered with blood) looked resplendent like a mountain of red chalk with streams of red water running adown its breast. Once more Arjuna pierced Karna in the centre of the chest with many straight-coursing and strong shafts made entirely of iron and equipped with wings of gold and each resembling the fiery rod of the Destroyer, like the son of Agni piercing the Krauncha mountains. Then the Suta's son, casting aside his bow that resembled the very bow of Sakra, as also his quiver, felt great pain, and stood inactive, stupefied, and reeling, his grasp loosened and himself in great anguish. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08090.htm
- I couldn't find a good picture to depict this incident, but here.
- When Arjuna stopped firing arrows at Karna to give him time to recover, Krishna told Arjuna to kill him don't give him time to recover: The virtuous Arjuna, observant of the duty of manliness, wished not to slay his enemy while fallen into such distress. The younger brother of Indra then, with great excitement, addressed him, saying, "Why, O son of Pandu, dost thou become so forgetful? They that are truly wise never spare their foes, however weak, even for a moment. He that is learned earneth both merit and fame by slaying foes fallen into distress. Lose no time in precipitately crushing Karna who is always inimical to thee and who is the first of heroes. The Suta's son, when able, will once more advance against thee as before. Slay him, therefore, like Indra slaying the Asura Namuci." http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08090.htm
Sunday, April 9, 2017
Karna was one of the biggest liars in Mahabharata!
Many people (specifically the Karna fans) think that he never uttered a single untruth or lie. That karna never failed to keep his promises. That karna always accomplished his vows. But in actuality the reality and truth is much different from what the majority believe. From what is shown on TV serials. His word meant nothing. He was all bark no bite. Karna was a bragger, he was all talk.
- All of Karna's lies. Exposing at-least 18 of his lies.
- Karna said that he would never do anything disagreeable to Duryodhana
- Quote: Karna said, 'I will not do anything that is disagreeable to Dhritarashtra's son, O Kesava. Devoted to Duryodhana's good, know that I have cast off my life (for him). http://sacred-texts.com/hin/m06/m06043.htm - (Chapter linK)
- Yet he gave Kunti the lives of 4 Pandavas including Bhima who kills Duryodhana's brothers.
- Karna said that he would make porcupines out of the Pandavas with his arrows (on the 14th night).
- Karna's words
- Quote: Amongst all the Parthas, Phalguna is the strongest. At him I will hurl the fatal dart of Sakra's workmanship. Upon the death of that great bowman, his brothers, O giver of honour, will either surrender themselves unto thee or once more retire into the forest. When I am alive, O Kauravya, never indulge in any grief. I will vanquish in battle all the Pandavas united together and all the Panchalas, the Kaikeyas, and the Vrishnis assembled together. Making porcupines of them by means of my arrowy showers, I will give thee the earth.'
- Link: http://sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07154.htm
- But instead he fled from just one Pandava (Arjuna)
- Quote: Then the mighty bowman Partha, beholding Karna's prowess, quickly cut of the latter's bow at the handle. And he also despatched the four steeds of the Suta's son to Yama's abode with a number of broad-headed shafts. And that scorcher of foes also cut off from the trunk the head of Karna's driver. Then, the son of Pandu and Pritha pierced the bowless, the steedless, and the driverless Karna with four shafts. Then that bull among men Karna, afflicted with those shafts, specially jumping down from that steedless car, mounted upon that of Kripa. Beholding the son of Radha vanquished, thy, warriors, O bull of Bharata's race, fled away in all directions.
- Link: http://sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07155.htm
- Karna could not save his charioteer from being made into a porcupine by Arjuna's arrows.
- Karna lied to Shalya that Indra was the bug who bit him: On that occasion, O Shalya, the chief of the gods, wishing to benefit Phalguna, caused an obstacle, by approaching my thigh and piercing it, having assumed the dire form of a worm. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08042.htm - (Chapter Link)
- He was clearly lying as the bug was not the chief of the gods but actually a Rakshasa when the actual event occurred! Description of actual event: As soon as Rama cast his, eyes on it, the worm gave up its life-breath, melting in that blood which it had drawn. All this seemed wonderful. Then in the welkin was seen a Rakshasa of terrible form, dark in hue, of a red neck, capable of assuming any form at wilt, and staying on the clouds,--his object fulfilled, the Rakshasa, with joined hands, addressed Rama, saying, 'O best of ascetics, thou hast rescued me from this hell! Blessed be thou, I adore thee, thou hast done me good!' Possessed of great energy, the mighty-armed son of Jamadagni said unto him, 'Who art thou? And why also didst thou fall into hell? Tell me all about it.' He answered, 'Formerly I was a great Asura of the name of Dansa. In the Krita period, O sire, I was of the same age with Bhrigu. I ravished the dearly-loved spouse of that sage. Through his curse I felt down on the earth in the form of a worm. In anger thy
ancestors said unto me, 'Subsisting on urine and phlegm, O wretch, thou shalt lead a life of hell.' I then besought him, saying, 'When, O Brahmana, shall this curse end?' Bhrigu replied unto me, saying. 'This curse shall end through Rama of my race. It was for this that I had obtained such a course of p. 6 life like one of uncleansed soul. O righteous one, by thee, however, I have been rescued from that sinful life.' Having said these words, the great Asura, bending his head unto Rama went away. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m12/m12a003.htm - (Chapter Link) - Karna lied to soldiers that he would protect women
- But when the time and place came to save a woman (Draupadi) he never did save her or protect her from anything at all.
- Quote: I shall either slay all my foes united together, or slain by them proceed to the regions reserved for heroes. O charioteer, I know that even this is what I should do, when women and children cry for help, or when Duryodhana's prowess sustains a check.
- Source: http://sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07002.htm
- When the time came to save Duryodhana's wife from the Gandharva's he (Karna) did not protect the woman at all.
- I don't need a quote or source (Mahabharata) for this one. We all know what that Gandharva did to Karna they broke his chariot, they wounded him, mangled his body and made him flee from the battlegrounds. Leaving behind the ladies of his friend Duryodhana.
- Karna lied to Parshuram that he was a Brahmana of Bhrigu's race.
- Quote: When Drona had answered thus, Karna, having worshipped him, obtained his leave, and proceeded without delay to Rama then residing on the Mahendra mountains. Approaching Rama, he bent his head unto him and said, 'I am a Brahmana of Bhrigu's race.' This procured honour for him. With this knowledge about his birth and family, Rama received him kindly and said, 'Thou art welcome!' at which Karna became highly glad. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m12/m12a002.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Karna confesses to the truth when he gets caught lying: Thus asked, Karna, fearing to be cursed, and seeking to gratify him, said these words, 'O thou of Bhrigu's race, know me for a Suta, a race that has sprung from the intermixture of Brahmanas with Kshatriyas. People call me Karna the son of Radha. O thou of Bhrigu's race, be gratified with my poor self that has acted from the desire of obtaining weapons. There is no doubt in this that a reverend preceptor in the Vedas and other branches of knowledge is one's father. It was for this that I introduced myself to thee as a person of thy own race.' http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m12/m12a003.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Karna lied to Shalya saying that he had no fear of the two Krishnas (Arjuna & Krishna): Knowing as I do my own might, I do not cherish any fear of the two Krishnas. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08040.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Yet fear encased him
- Karna lied in the Swayamvara that only Indra, Vishnu, Drona and Arjuna are capable of fighting with him when he is angry: Then addressing his antagonist, Karna said, 'O thou foremost of Brahmanas, I am gratified to observe the energy of thy arms that knoweth no relaxation in battle and thy weapons themselves fit for achieving victory. Art thou the embodiment of the science of weapons, or art thou Rama that best of Brahmanas, or Indra himself, or Indra's
younger brother Vishnu called also Achyuta, who for disguising himself hath assumed the form of a Brahmana and mustering such energy of arms fighteth with me? No other person except the husband himself of Sachi or Kiriti, the son of Pandu, is capable of fighting with me when I am angry on the field of battle.' http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m01/m01193.htm - (Chapter Link) - During the 14th night battle of the Kurukshetra war Karna was enraged because he thought his son was dead yet he was still losing a fight with even a disciple of Arjuna even though he was angry: Then Karna, believing that mighty car-warrior, viz., Vrishasena, slain, became scorched with grief on account of the death of his son and began to afflict Satyaki with great force. Thus afflicted by Karna, the mighty car-warrior Yuyudhana, with great speed, repeatedly pierced Karna with many shafts. Once more piercing Karna with ten arrows, and Vrishasena with five, the Satwata hero cut off the leathern fences and the bows of both sire and son. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07167.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Karna said that Arjuna was not even equal to 1/16th part of him: Hearing these words, Karna said, 'You always censure us by speaking on the virtues of Falguna, Arjuna, however, is p. 72 not equal to even a full sixteenth part of myself or Duryodhana!' http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m04/m04039.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Over here Karna also said that no person is capable of fighting him when he is angry except for Arjuna: No other person except the husband himself of Sachi or Kiriti, the son of Pandu, is capable of fighting with me when I am angry on the field of battle.' http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m01/m01193.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Karna lied to Duryodhana that he would slay partha in the sight of Bhishma: 'Do not grieve, O chief of the Bharata. Even I will do what is agreeable to thee. Let Santanu's son Bhishma soon withdraw from the great battle. After Ganga's son will have withdrawn from the fight and laid aside his weapons, I will slay the Partha along with all the Somakas, in the very sight of Bhishma. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m06/m06098.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Karna already vowed to not fight when Bhishma is still alive. How can he fight in the very sight of Bhishma if Bhishma is not alive?: "Karna said, 'As long as Ganga's son liveth, O king, I shall never fight. After Bhishma is slain, I shall fight with the wielder of Gandiva.' http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m05/m05157.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Karna lied that he would give up even his life for Duryodhana's sake: I am unable to transgress my destiny. The son of Vichitravirya's son is, O king, always engaged in doing me good. For the accomplishment of his purpose, I will cast away my life-breaths that are so dear, and this body that is so difficult of being cast away. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08037.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Yet when Duryodhana was at the mercy of Gandharvas, Karna did not cast off his life and instead fled away from the scene: As regards myself, assailed by all the Gandharvas, I fled before thy eyes, unable to rally our flying host. Assailed by the foe with all his might, my body mangled with their arrows, I sought safety in flight. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03245.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Karna lied to Bhima (on the 14th day of Kurukshetra) that he was unable to bear the burden of battle: And Karna said, 'Without skin in weapons, do not fight with me. Thou art but a child, a laggard in battle! http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07135.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Karna later on confesses that Bhima is superior to all: This Vrikodara is brave and is a hero full of wrath. He is reckless in protecting his body, and in strength of limbs he is superior to all. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08050.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Karna lied when he said that Arjuna will shoot shafts at him mildly: Having been engaged in ascetic austerities for the (last) eight and five years, Vibhatsu will strike me but mildly in this conflict, and the son of Kunti having become a Brahmana endued with good qualities, hath thus become a fit person to quietly receive shafts by thousands shot by me. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m04/m04048.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Arjuna struck Karna violently: And taking another sharp and blazing arrow endued with great energy, the mighty son of Kunti pierced the breast of Kama. And that arrow, cleaving through his mail, penetrated into his body. And at this, Karna's vision was obscured and his senses left him. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m04/m04060.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Karna lied to Shalya that Shalya utters many disagreeable speeches about the Pandavas: Like a fool thou hast, for the sake of Pandu's son, rebuked me and told me many disagreeable things. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08042.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Yet Karna later on says everything Shalya uttered was true: "Sanjaya continued, 'While the ruler of the Madras was saying these words unto the son of Radha, Vrikodara, excited with rage, came upon Karna. Beholding Bhima, that delighter in battle,
approaching him in that way, the son of Radha laughingly said unto Shalya these words, "The words that thou, O ruler of the Madras, hast todayspoken to me regarding Bhima, O lord, are without doubt all true. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08050.htm - (Chapter Link) - Karna lied to Arjuna that he would never be filled with anxiety whenever he encounters him in battle: O Pritha's son, if Sakra himself fight on thy side, still I would feel no p. 106
anxiety in putting forth my prowess. Thy wish, O son of Kunti, is about to be gratified. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m04/m04060.htm - (Chapter Link) - Yet on the 17th day of Kurukshetra: When his car began to reel from the curse of the Brahmana, and when the high weapon he had obtained from Rama no longer shone in him through inward light, and when his terrible snake-mouthed shaft also had been cut off by Partha, Karna became filled with melancholy. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08090.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Melancholy is a Synonym of Anxiety.
- Karna lied to Bhishma that he would kill the Pandavas: 'As long as thou livest, O thou of Kuru's race, I will never fight! if thou, however, succeedest in slaying the sons of Pandu in great battle, I shall, O Kaurava, with Duryodhana's permission, retire into the woods. If, on the other hand, thou, O Bhishma, slain by the Pandavas, attainest to heaven, I shall then, on a single car, slay all of them, whom thou regardest as great car-warriors.' Having said this, mighty-armed Karna of great fame, with thy son's approval, did not fight for the first ten days. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07001.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Before this incident Karna had promised Kunti that he would spare the lives of four out of the five Pandavas: Except Arjuna, thy other sons, Yudhishthira, Bhima, and the twins, though capable of being withstood by me in tight and capable also of being p. 282 slain, shall not yet be slain by me. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m05/m05146.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Karna lied to Indra that he could not part with his Armour and earrings
- Quote: I desire, O chastiser of foes, that thou mayst speedily give me these; for, this one gain of mine will be considered as superior to every other gain!' Hearing these words, Kama, said, 'O Brahmana, I will give thee homestead land, and fair damsels, and kine, and fields; but my mail and ear-rings I am unable to give thee!
- Link: http://sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03308.htm
- Yet Karna still gives it to him
- Quote: And Karna cutting off the excellent mail from his person, gave it to Vasava, still dripping. And cutting off his ear-rings also from off his ears, he made them over to Indra.
- Link: http://sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03308.htm
- Karna lied that he would kill the grandsons of the Pandavas
- Quote: I have that weapon with me still, and my period is not yet run. I am, therefore, fully competent (to win victory) Let the responsibility be mine. Having obtained the favour of that Rishi, I will slay within the twinkling of an eye the Panchalas, the Karushas, the Matsyas, and the sons of Pritha with their sons and grandsons, and bestow on p. 143
thee numerous regions won by my weapons. - Source: http://sacred-texts.com/hin/m05/m05062.htm
- Karna failed to slay a single grandson of the Pandava family. Everyone who has read the Mahabharata knows this by now.
- Karna lied to Shalya that a person like him would neve rbecoem a crook warrior
- Quote: Endued with great activity, the Suta's son, with eyes burning in wrath, then said unto the ruler of the Madras, "O Shalya, Karna never aimeth an arrow twice. Persons like us never become crooked warriors." Having said these words, Karna, with great care, let off that shaft which he had worshipped for many long years.
- Link - http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08090.htm
- Yet Karna became a crooked warrior when he attacked Abhimanyu from behind (while the latter was shooting shafts at other warriors).
- Karna ambushed Dhrishtadyumna on the 14th night with six other car-warriors. It was a group attack 7 on 1. Completely unfair.
- Karna killed his own troops while fighting Bhima on the 14th day.
- Karna begged Aswathamman, kripa, Sakuni, Kritavarman etc to wound and weaken and mangle Arjuna & krishna deeply so they would be weakened before the final fight.
- It was on Karna's counsels that prince Duryodhana poisoned Mighty Bheema when the former was unable to handle the latter's strength.
- Karna was a crooked warrior, he was a cheat, it is in his nature.
- All of Karna's failed promises.
- Karna promised that he would hurl the Vasavi dart only on Arjuna: Addressing Karna, they used to say, 'O Karna. O great bowman, O thou of immeasurable prowess in battle, O foremost of all victors, this dart should not be hurled at any one else than that great car-warrior, viz., Kunti's son, Partha or Dhananjaya. He is the most celebrated amongst p. 424 them, like Vasava amongst the gods. He being slain, all the other Pandavas with the Srinjayas will be heartless like fireless celestials! 1' Karna having assented to this, saying 'So be it' (the desire of) slaughtering the wielder of Gandiva, O bull amongst the Sinis, was ever present in Karna's heart. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07179.htm - (Chapter Link)
- But he launches it on Ghatotkaca instead: Indeed, that dart, O king, which he had kept and adored for years for (achieving) the slaughter of Pandu's son in battle, that foremost of darts which Sakra himself had given to the Suta's son in exchange for the latter's ear-rings, that blazing and terrible missile twined with strings and which seemed to thirst for blood, that fierce weapon which looked like the very tongue of the Destroyer or the sister of Death himself, that terrible and effulgent dart, Naikartana, was now hurled at the Rakshasa. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07176.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Karna promised that he would save Jayadratha's life: I shall strive my best so that this foremost one of the sons of Pandu may not succeed in slaying the ruler of the Sindhus. As long as I shall fight, shooting my whetted shafts, the heroic Dhananjaya, capable of drawing the bow with even his left hand, will not succeed in getting at the ruler of the Sindhus. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07141.htm - (Chapter Link)
- But he failed in doing so: That shaft, sped from Gandiva, coursing swiftly, snatched Jayadratha's head away, like a hawk snatching away a smaller bird from the top of a tree. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07142.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Karna promised that he would slay Arjuna in Virata Parva: With golden arrows furnished with vulturine wings shot on all sides, let the firmament seem today to swarm with fire-flies. Slaying Arjuna in battle, I will discharge today that debt, difficult of repayments, but promised of old by me unto Dhritarashtra's son. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m04/m04048.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Instead he runs away after getting pierced by Arjuna: And mangled and afflicted by the arrows shot by Partha the son of Pandu, Vikartana's son, quitted the van of battle, and quickly took to flight, like one elephant vanquished by another.'" http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m04/m04054.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Karna promised Arjuna that he would surpass the performance of Arjuna: And that foremost of eloquent men, the offspring of the Sun, in a voice deep as that of the clouds, addressed his unknown brother, the son of the subduer p. 288 of the Asura, Paka (Indra), saying, 'O Partha, I shall perform feats before this gazing multitude; excelling all thou hast performed! Beholding them, thou shall be amazed.' http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m01/m01139.htm - (Chapter link)
- But he only equaled Arjuna's performance: Then with the permission of Drona, the mighty Karna, delighting in battle, there did all that Partha had done before. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m01/m01139.htm - (Chapter link)
- Karna made a promise to protect any women
- Quote: I shall either slay all my foes united together, or slain by them proceed to the regions reserved for heroes. O charioteer, I know that even this is what I should do, when women and children cry for help, or when Duryodhana's prowess sustains a check.
- But he failed to keep this promise when he saw a woman (Draupadi) being assaulted.
- Karna himself joins in on the assault against the woman (Draupadi).
- Opinion of other great personalities and characters on the authenticity of Karna's word.
- Aswathamman the classmate of Karna, they both learned from Kripa and Drona.
- "Aswatthaman said, 'The kine, O Karna, have not yet been won, nor have they yet crossed the boundary (of their owner's dominions), nor have they yet reached Hastinapura. Why dost thou, therefore, boast of thyself? Having won numerous battles, and acquired enormous wealth, and vanquished hostile hosts, men of true heroism speak not a word of their prowess. Fire burneth mutely and mutely doth the sun shine. Mutely also doth the Earth bear creatures, both mobile and immobile. The Self-existent hath sanctioned such offices for the four orders that having recourse to them each may acquire wealth without being censurable. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m04/m04050.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Of wicked understanding as thou art, thou rebukest, however, my brave uncle from malice. Possessed with pride and insolence, thou braggest today of thy prowess, not regarding any of the world's bowmen in battle! http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07155.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Shalya the charioteer of Karna, who guided Karna on his glorious last day:
- "Forbear, forbear, O Karna, from such bragging. Thou art in transports of delight and sayest what thou shouldst never say. Where is Dhananjaya, that foremost of men, and where again, art thou, O lowest of men?" http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08037.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Karna chose Shalya as his charioteer (Karna to Duryodhana): Though inferior to Arjuna in respect of these things, I still desire to fight with him. This Shalya, however, the ornament of assemblies, is equal to Saurin. If he becomes my driver, victory will certainly be thine. Let Shalya, therefore, who is incapable of being resisted by foes be the driver of my car. Let a large number of carts bear my long shafts and those that are winged with vulturine feathers. Let a number of foremost cars, O monarch, with excellent steeds yoked unto them, always follow me, O bull of Bharata's race. By these arrangements I will, as regards the qualities mentioned, be superior to Arjuna. Shalya is superior to Krishna, and I am superior to Arjuna. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08031.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Kunti the mother of Karna. What mother does not know her son?
- Kunti considered Karna a deluded person: There is only this sinful Karna then, of deluded understanding and ever following the deluded lead of the wicked Duryodhana, that hateth the Pandavas. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m05/m05144.htm - (Chapter Link)
- Kripa a guru of Karna who trained him in the science of warfare.
- Incident 1: "Kripa said, 'O Radheya, thy
crooked heart always inclineth to war. Thou knowest not the true nature of things; nor dost thou take into account their after-consequences. There are various kinds of expedients inferrable from thescriptures . Of these, a battle hath been regarded by those acquainted with the past, as the most sinful. It is only when time and place are favourable that military operations can lead to success. In the presentinstance , however, the time being unfavourable, no good results will be deprived. A display of prowess in proper time and place becometh beneficial. It is by the favourableness or otherwise (of time and place) that the opportuneness of an act is determined. Learned men can never act according to the ideas of a car-maker. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m04/m04049.htm - (Chapter Link) - Incident 2: Kripa, the mighty armed son of Saradwat, smiling the while, addressed the Suta's son in these words, 'Thy speech is fair, O Karna! If words alone could lead to success, then with thee, O son of Radha, as his protector, this bull among the Kurus would be considered to have the amplest measure of protection. Thou boastest much, O Karna, in the presence of the Kuru chief, but thy prowess is seldom witnessed, nor, indeed, any
result (of thy boastful speeches). Many a time have we seen thee encounter the sons of Pandu in battle. On every one of those occasions, O Suta's son, thou hast been vanquished by the Pandavas. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07154.htm - (Chapter Link) - Incident 3: Thou indulgest in too much brag, O Suta's son! Engage thyself in battle without saying anything. To Put forth prowess without indulging in brag is the duty of good men. Ever roaring aloud, O Suta's son like the dry clouds of autumn, thou showest p. 360 thyself, O Karna to be without substance. The king, however, does not understand it. Thou roarest, O son of Radha, as long as thou seest not the son of Pritha. These thy roars disappear when thou seest Partha near. Indeed, thou roarest as long as thou art out of the range of Phalguna's shafts. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07154.htm - (Chapter Link)
Another name of Karna can be CHOOT PUTRA.
Tuesday, March 28, 2017
KARNA ACCEPTING HIS INCAPABILITY AGAINST HIS ENEMIES!
Karna fans always like to bark and bray about why Karna's defeats in the Rajasuya Yagna, Draupadi Swayamvara, against Satyaki, Abhimanyu etc are not even mentioned later on or used by other characters to insult him etc. Well that is because others did not need to use that to expose karna. As Karna HIMSELF would accept the facts sometimes! He would accept how he was defeated! I am here to tell you that karna fans are wrong, completely wrong. What more proof do you need besides karna's own approval and statements karna fans?
- Karna accepting that they will all die at the hands of Arjuna - This indicates that we shall soon have to proceed to Yama's abode. I have no doubt that myself and the other kings, indeed, the entire assemblage of Kshatriyas shall have to enter into the Gandiva fire.' http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m05/m05143.htm (chapter link)
- Gandiva was the bow of Arjuna. Yama's abode basically means the afterlife after you die.
- So basically put, Karna was in fear and felt like he was in a hopeless situation that he will die at Arjuna's hands.
- Karna agreed that he was weaker than Arjuna, that he was helpless in-front of Arjuna that he would die.
- Karna blaming destiny, fate and time - And since, O Suyodhana, in spite of ourselves fighting to the utmost extent of our powers, the ruler of the Sindhus has been slain in battle, it seems that Fate is all-powerful. With thyself we had all been exerting to the utmost of our might on the field of battle. Fate, however, baffling our exertions, did not smile on us. We have always exerted to injure the Pandavas, relying both on deceit and prowess. Whatever act, O king, a person afflicted by Fate does, is frustrated by Fate, however, much the person himself may strive to achieve it. Whatever, indeed, a man endued with perseverance should do, ought to be done fearlessly. Success depends on Fate! http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07148.htm (chapter link)
- Note: over here Karna accepted his incapability again by accepting that he relied on deceit.
- The ruler of the Sindhus is Jayadratha (Duryodhana aka Suyodhana's brother-in-law his sister's husband). And he had been killed by Arjuna.
- Karna accepted that despite fighting to the utmost extent of his powers he could not save Jayadratha the ruler of the Sindhus. Thus accepting that he failed despite fighting at his very best.
- Karna accepting his defeat at Arjuna's hands once again - So also, in Virata's city, moving on a single car he vanquished all of us, and snatched from us that wealth of kine, and took from all the foremost of car-warriors (portions of) their garments. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08079.htm
- Karna himself confirmed his defeat at Virata Parva through this dialogue.
- Karna said Arjuna "vanquished all of us" thus proving he lost. He himself accepted his defeat.
- Karna declaring Arjuna the foremost of all warriors - "'Karna said, "As far as I have heard, such a superior car-warrior has never been born on earth! Behold my prowess, since I will contend in battle with even that Partha who is such. This prince of Kuru's line, this foremost of car-warriors, careers in battle, borne by his steeds white in hue. Perhaps he will despatch me to Yama's abode today. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08079.htm
- Karna declared that he has never heard of anyone better than Arjuna.
- Karna (upon seeing Arjuna career in battle) got caught in fear thinking that Arjuna will kill him.
- Karna accepted that he had crushed by Bhima badly - Thus addressed by thy son, O sire, the son of Radha replied unto Duryodhana, that foremost one among the Kurus, in these words, 'Deeply hath my body been pierced in battle by the brave bowman Bhimasena, capable of striking vigorously with repeated showers of arrows. O giver of honours, that I am yet present in battle is because that one like me should be present here. Scorched with the powerful shafts of Bhimasena, every limb of mine is suffering from torturing pain I shall, however, for all that, fight to the best of my p. 315 powers. My life itself is for thee. I shall strive my best so that this foremost one of the sons of Pandu may not succeed in slaying the ruler of the Sindhus. As long as I shall fight, shooting my whetted shafts, the heroic Dhananjaya, capable of drawing the bow with even his left hand, will not succeed in getting at the ruler of the Sindhus. All that a person, bearing love and affection to thee and always solicitous of thy good, may do, shall be done by me, O thou of Kuru's race! As regards victory, that depends on destiny. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07141.htm
- Karna accepted that he is only still on the battlefield despite getting wounded by Bhima because he should be. If he wasn't himself (if Karna wasn't Karna) then he would not still be their.
- Karna accepted that Bhima had injured him and scorched his body fiercely.
- Karna accepted his incapability against Abhimanyu - Hearing these words, Karna, afflicted with the shafts of Arjuna's son, once more said unto Drona, 'Exceedingly afflicted with the shafts of Abhimanyu, I am staying in battle, only because (as a warrior) I should stay here. Indeed, the arrows of this south of great energy are exceedingly fierce. Terrible as they are and possessed of the energy of fire, these arrows are weakening my heart.' http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07045.htm (chapter link)
- Karna accepted that he would flee the battlefield again if he wasn't a warrior.
- Karna accepted that the arrows of Abhimanyu are weakening his heart.
- Karna begging Arjuna's guru Drona to teach him how to kill - The Karna, the son of Vikartana, said unto Drona, 'Abhimanyu grindeth us all. Tell us the means by which we may slay him.' http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07045.htm (chapter link)
- When Karna got rendered helpless in the war against Abhimanyu he decided to beg others for help and support. He started to ask even his enemies teacher Drona for advice.
- Karna accepted that Abhimanyu was superior to him.
- Karna accepted his incapability against the Gandharvas led by Chitrasena - As regards myself, assailed by all the Gandharvas, I fled before thy eyes, unable to rally our flying host. Assailed by the foe with all his might, my body mangled with their arrows, I sought safety in flight. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03245.htm (chapter link)
- Karna accepted that he was unable to rally his army.
- Karna accepted that he fled from the battle and his body was mangled by arrows.
- Karna accepted his incapability against Dhrishtadyumna and Satyaki - Here, however, this Satyaki, this foremost one of the Satwata race, stayeth amid us. If this object of our aim can be struck down, we can then vanquish all our foes. Similarly, the son of the Panchala king is engaged with Drona. He is encompassed on all sides by many heroic and foremost of car-warriors. If we can slay Satyaki and Dhrishtadyumna, the son of Prishata without doubt, O king, victory will p. 393 be ours. Surrounding these two heroes, these two mighty car-warriors, as we did the son of Subhadra we will strive, O king, to slay them, viz., this son of Vrishni's race and this son of Prishata. Savyasachin, O Bharata, is before us, coming towards this division of Drona, knowing that Satyaki is engaged here with many chief among the Kurus. Let a large number of our foremost of car-warriors proceed thither, so that Partha may not be able to come to the rescue of Satyaki, now encompassed by many. Let these great heroes speedily shoot clouds of shafts with great force, so that Satyaki of Madhu's race may by speedily despatched to Yama's abode.' Ascertaining this to be the opinion of Karna, thy son, addressing Suvala's son in the battle, like the illustrious Indra addressing Vishnu, said these words, Surrounded by ten thousand unretreating elephants and ten thousand cars also, proceed against Dhananjaya! http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m07/m07167.htm (chapter link)
- If you read the whole chapter in the link then you will read and find out how Satyaki and Dhrishtadyumna had both defeated Karna in that battle. Prior to Karna's cowardly proposal.
- Karna proposed to make a plan a scheme to surround and attack Satyaki and Dhrishtadyumna with many foremost of car-warriors on all sides just like how they did to Abhimanyu (Arjuna's son).
- This in itself gives proof that Karna accepted his incapability that he was weaker than his opponents Satyaki & Dhrishtadyumna. As he failed to beat them in one-on-one combat so now he relies on such underhanded methods to kill them.
KARNA THE KING WHO PRACTICED SLAVERY! AND SUPPORTED PROSTITUTION!
Karna fans often like to claim that Karna was one of the best kind hearted people ever. The perfect human-being. A strong opposer of slavery, caste-ism and racism etc. Standing up for LGBT rights. Lol no, far from it. I'm sorry but i am a fan of the truth. The facts. The real truth. And truth is bitter it sound bitter to many people but it enlightens you. In actuality karna had a sex trafficking business, under the guise of charity he used to sell young unmarried females of south Asia and India.
To prove my statements as usual i will be posting evidence, images, quotes, links to the original text and my own analysis. People only portray karna as a righteous person in order to fool the common man into worshiping and respecting karna.
"Sanjaya continued, 'Then king Duryodhana stopped Karna and Shalya (from going on with their wordy warfare), addressing the son of Radha as a friend, and beseeching Shalya with joined hands, Karna, O sire, was quieted by thy son and forbore saying anything more. Shalya also then faced the enemy. Then Radha's son, smiling, once more urged Shalya, saying, "Proceed."'" www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08045.htm (chapter link)
To prove my statements as usual i will be posting evidence, images, quotes, links to the original text and my own analysis. People only portray karna as a righteous person in order to fool the common man into worshiping and respecting karna.
- Incident 1 - KARNA OFFERS 100 YOUNG FEMALES TO THE PERSON WHO FINDS ARJUNA, EVEN READY TO GIVE HIS WIFE TO THAT PERSON: To him that will discover Dhananjaya to me, I shall also give a hundred female slaves, with golden collars, belonging to the country of the Magadhas, and of very youthful age. If that does not satisfy the person that discovers Arjuna to me, I will make him a more valuable gift, that, indeed, which he himself will solicit. Sons, wives and articles of pleasure and enjoyment that I have, these all I shall give him if he desires them. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08038.htm
- Here Karna must be talking about the city Malini of Magadha which Jarasandha gave Karna. So Karna must be smuggling women from Anga to Magadha, and making them slaves, later distributing them among people, just as he was going to distribute it to the person who informs him of Arjuna.
- And why is it mostly young girls that Karna sells? Probably because those girls are sold for prostitution. So not just slavery their is also prostitution that Karna indulged in. Because a slave has no rights. Their masters can do whatever they want with them. When karna sells slaves he only sees his own profit not the slaves.
- Some Karna fans like to say that Karna was just joking. According to them he was mocking the Pandavas soldiers. According to them he was doing this to boost up the morale and confidence of his own army.
- BUT when someone make such a claim a question immediately comes into mind. How could an army be confident and proud and courageous in battle when it's leader (Karna) offers his own sons, slaves and even wives to ordinary soldiers and troops of the enemy army? How could they feel safe in his hands? This argument of karna fans in itself is a joke. This is just a pathetic attempt to save karna's character from abashment. It's just pathetic.
- HE TRIED TO BRIBE A BRAHMANA TO NOT CURSE HIM BY OFFERING TO GIVE HIM HUNDREDS OF SLAVES BOTH MALE AND FEMALE: I was then for giving him seven hundred elephants of large tusks and many hundred of slaves male and female. That foremost of brahmana would not still be gratified. Collecting next full 14,000 kine, each black in hue and having a white calf I was still unable to obtain the grace of that best of brahmana. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08042.htm
- Note some foolish karna fans try to say that what karna was meant to say was that no matter what he would give to the Brahamna still the Brahmana would not be gratified. But in actuality Karna directly offered these slaves to the Brahmana. He was all for it giving slaves to the Brahmana.
- Karna was clearly not just talking about giving them to the Brahmana or saying "if he did then still Brahmana won't be satisfied" he collected fourteen thousand cows to sell for his safety from the curse - Collecting next full 14,000 kine, each black in hue and having a white calf I was still unable to obtain the grace of that best of brahmana. Karna Parva: Section 42
- So basically stop making excuses for Karna because he was clearly one of the most ardent practice rs of slavery in Mahabharata.
- KARNA USED TO DONATE WOMEN INSTEAD OF FOOD AND CLOTH
: :P -"And when the king of the celestials presented himself in the guise of a Brahmana, beholding him, Kama said, 'Welcome!' And not knowing his intention, Adhiratha's son addressed the Brahmana, saying, 'Of a necklace of gold, and beauteous damsels, and villages with plenty of kine, which shall I give thee?' Thereupon the Brahmana replied, 'I ask thee not to give me either a necklace of gold, or fair damsels, or any other agreeable object. To those do thou give them that ask for them. If, O sinless one, thou art sincere in thy vow, then wilt thou, cutting off (from thy person) this coat of mail born with thy body, and these ear-rings also, bestow them on me! I desire, O chastiser of foes, that thou mayst speedily give me these; for, this one gain of mine will be considered as superior to every other gain!' Hearing these words, Kama, said, 'O Brahmana, I will give thee homestead land, and fair damsels, and kine, and fields; but my mail and ear-rings I am unable to give thee!'" www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03308.htm
- Note Kama means Karna as it is Adhiratha's son and he is described with having a coat of mail and ear-rings. Karna has been called as "Kama" many times.
- Definition of damsels - a young unmarried woman.
- Note over here Karna did not even know what his client's intentions were: And not knowing his intention, Adhiratha's son addressed the Brahmana, saying, 'Of a necklace of gold, and beauteous damsels, and villages with plenty of kine, which shall I give thee?'
- Hahahah... Lol just LOL! Usually people who are charitable and givers give away food, clothes, water, wealth and property as donations. But however Karna the great did business with young girls and slaves.
- So again it is not just slavery but also prostitution that Karna indulged in. What other use would he have for donating young unmarried women as slaves? What purpose would such ladies serve as a slave? He even praised their physical appearances saying they were "beauteous", indicating he sold them for sex.
- Karna enslaves his own women his own wives.
- Karna said compared to his love for the Sun god Surya his wives are nothing - 'As thou, O lord of splendour, knowest me for thy worshipper, so also thou knowest that there is nothing which I cannot give away in charity, O thou of fiery rays! Neither my wives, nor my sons, nor my own self, nor my friends, are so dear to me as thou, on
account of the veneration I feel for thee, O lord of splendour! Thou knowest, O maker of light, that high-souled persons bear a loving regard for their dear worshippers. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03300.htm He also says he is not lying here - Karna revereth me and is dear to me. He knoweth no other deity in heaven, thinking this thou hast, O lord, said unto me what is for my benefit. Yet, O thou of bright rays, again do Ibeseech thee with bended head, again do I place myself in thy hands. I will repeat the answer I have already given. It behoveth thee to forgive me! Death itself is not fraught with such terrors for me as untruth! http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03300.htm- Karna said he would cast away/abandon his wife and children just for Duryodhana: "Like Vasudeva's son who is firmly resolved for the sake of the Pandavas, I also, O thou that makest profuse presents to Brahmanas, am prepared to cast away my possessions, my body itself, my children, and my wife, for Duryodhana's sake!" http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m06/m06124.htm
- He would offer his wives as slaves to soldiers whose names he didn't even know: If that does not satisfy the person that discovers Arjuna to me, I will make him a more valuable gift, that, indeed, which he himself will solicit. Sons, wives and articles of pleasure and enjoyment that I have, these all I shall give him if he desires them. http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08038.htm
- If he sells his own wives and sons then why is it so hard for people to believe that he sold ordinary women and men who were his subjects? What to speak of them?
- KARNA KIDNAPPED OTHER PRINCESSES FOR DURYODHANA!
- Bhishma to Karna: O Karna, proceeding to the city of Kasi, alone with thy bow, thou hadst crushed the kings in battle for procuring a bride for the Kuru king! http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m06/m06124.htm
- This was told by Bhishma while he was on his deathbed. So a person who is dying may not be lying.
- A part of biography of Karna told by Narada to Yudhishthira after Karna's pitiful death mentions this: Possessed of great lightness of hands, Karna, that foremost of all smiters, afflicted them all. He deprived many kings of their drivers and thus vanquished all those lords of earth. They then themselves took up the reins of their steeds, and saying, 'Go away, go away', turned away from the battle with cheerless hearts. Protected by Karna, Duryodhana also came away, with a joyous heart, bringing with him the maiden to the city called after the elephant.'" http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m12/m12a004.htm
- Duryodhana kidnapped a princess to make her his wife but he RELIED ON Karna for this. so Karna supported kidnapping of princesses openly.
- AFTER ALL OF THIS SO MUCH PROOF, SO MUCH EVIDENCE, CONFESSIONS OF KARNA HIMSELF, DO YOU ALL STILL DENY SHALYA'S CLAIM?
- Just like how Shalya was the one who had the last word in the heated debate between him and Karna on day 17. So do those who argue AGAINST Karna's fans have the last word in debates.
- Karna offered a smile to Shalya indicating that he has no shame of being a practitioner of slavery.
- Shalya also says that Bhishma himself labeled Karna's faults during the tale of Rathas and Atirathas.
- The end of the debate between Shalya and Karna is down below.
"Sanjaya continued, 'Then king Duryodhana stopped Karna and Shalya (from going on with their wordy warfare), addressing the son of Radha as a friend, and beseeching Shalya with joined hands, Karna, O sire, was quieted by thy son and forbore saying anything more. Shalya also then faced the enemy. Then Radha's son, smiling, once more urged Shalya, saying, "Proceed."'" www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m08/m08045.htm (chapter link)
Now the conclusion? Well it should be perfectly obvious, it should be clear as water. Karna had a dandha, a business, he was a pimp. He wasn't just ready to sell his own people, his subjects, his slaves, young women, but also his own sons AND WIVES! By smiling to Shalya he himself accepted that Shalya was telling the truth. He clearly has no shame......
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