In Mahabharata these are the types of things society did.
Vast quantity of animal population is lost in rituals of aryavarth.
1st - King Rantidev's;
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"All the vessels and plates, in Rantideva's palace, for holding food and other articles, all the jugs and pots, the pans and plates and cups, were of gold. On those nights during which the guests used to live in Rantideva's abode, twenty thousand and one hundred kine had to be slaughtered. Yet even on such occasions, the cooks, decked in ear-rings, used to proclaim (amongst those that sat down to supper)."
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2 - King Dashrath's sacrifice of animals;
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The sages have arranged those animals that are to be there in animal sacrifices, like horse and other aquatic animals, in that ritual according to scriptures.
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Marrying a woman a third of your age is advised:
Women took their younger brother in laws as husbands:
"A woman in the absence of her husband, takes his younger brother for her lord; even so the Earth, not having obtained the: Brahmana, made the Kshatriya her lord."
Logic - maybe Laxman was the lord/swami or husband of Seetha then?
Desire of women destroys families (according to Brahma the creator):
"Verily, women are exceedingly fond of sexual congress. Among a thousand women, or, perhaps, among hundreds of thousands, sometimes only one may be found that is devoted to her husband. When under the influence of desire, they care not for family or father or mother or brother or husband or sons or husband's brother (but pursue the way that desire points out)."
"Verily, in pursuit of what they consider happiness, they destroy the family (to which they belong by birth or marriage) even as many queenly rivers eat away the banks that contain them. The Creator himself had said this, quickly marking the faults of women."
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m13/m13a019.htm
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m13/m13a019.htm
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Marrying women of the Sudra caste is condemned by the "righteous":
"The righteous condemn the practice of begetting issue upon Sudra women. A Brahmana, by begetting children upon a Sudra woman, incurs the liability of performing an expiation."
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m13/m13b009.htm
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m13/m13b009.htm
Marrying a woman a third of your age is advised:
"A person of thirty years of age should wed a girl of ten years of age called a Nagnika. Or, a person of one and twenty years of age should wed a girl of seven years of age."
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m13/m13b009.htm
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m13/m13b009.htm
How females were seen in aryan kingdom's.
"Women of course are deceivers, even occupied with selfishness. Let them be condemned! Here, I am not mentioning of all women but of Bharata's mother only."
Note: dashrath said "women of course" first, and condemned them second but after those two statements he tried to minimize his words and started to claim he's only talking about Kaikeyi not any other female.
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Modern day rivers in Mahabharata times:
Modern day rivers in Mahabharata times:
"The very many rivers that flowing through Kasmira, fall into the great river called Sindhu (Indus). By bathing in these rivers one is sure to become endued with good character and to ascend to heaven after departing from this world."
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m13/m13a025.htm
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m13/m13a025.htm
[below/underneath arya does not mean NOBLe]
Difference between aryans and other tribes got pointed out;
"And the Mlechchhas and the Aryas there who witnessed or heard of that behaviour of the sons of Pandu, all wept with choked voices."
Logic - their was a clear difference between Mleccha's and Arya's/aryan's.
More proof;
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"Diverse tribes of Mlechchas too, who had been discomfited before and many Aryan kings, possessed of soldiers and animals endued with great alacrity, and all irresistible in fight encountered the son of Pandu in battle."
Logic - even if they have a common enemy (arjun/pandav) they will choose to differentiate themselves.
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Meat Eating, death of animals.
1st;
Yudhishthira asked "Tell me what that object is which, if dedicated to the Pitris, becomes inexhaustible?"
Bhishma said "With the meat of the buffalo their gratification lasts for eleven months." "The potherb called Kalasaka, the petals of the Kanchana flower, and meat of the goat also, thus offered, prove inexhaustible."
"One born in our race should, under the constellation Magha, as if in the observance of a vow, offer the meat of goat or the petals of the Kanchana flower." "Even a little of water, roots, fruits, meat, and rice, mixed with honey, if offered on the anniversary of the day of death becomes inexhaustible."
2nd;
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"May the blessed moon-god furnish me many-coloured flowers which have just fallen from the flower-plants or trees, the drinks like wine and others as also various kinds of meat."
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Comment - a old brahmin said this and he was given respect by Bharat (brother to Ram)
3rd;
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"Dishes of goat and boar with delicious sauces were there and condiments that were spicy, fragrant and succulent, cooked in fruit juices; vessels of rare metals filled with rice, decorated with flowers, were offered in thousands to those soldiers there."
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Logic; goats and boars were eaten by the namard army of ayodhya.
What Ashwathama sir thinks about meat eater's.
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"As regards those that live by practising the profession of flowers and vendors of meat, they may earn wealth by expedients fraught with deceit and fraud."
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Using the skin of animals for clothing.
1:
"Dasharatha's son Rama is the one with inescapable arms and keen-eyed, but has jute-cloths and skin of black-deer for his dress."
2:
"I wish to sit along with you on its golden deerskin, overlaying it on a seat of tender darbha grass-blades, in case the deer is felled."
Comment - this time it was for a mere seat, how can that be a valid reason to take away its life?
3: Kaikeyi's word.
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"Rama has to take refuge in the forest of Dandaka for fourteen years and let him become an ascetic wearing rags, deer skin and matted hair."
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4:
"I shall be delighted to see you, initiated for the perfect religious act of austerity, wearing excellent antelope-hide, being pure and bearing a deer-horn in hand."
Basic - antelope skin for clothing, and horns of a deer for decoration and style.
5. quoTe
"He saw all the people who came there to behold him, approached nearer to them, greeted them and mounted the excellent chariot, which was resplendent like fire and covered with tiger's skin."
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Logic - the tiger is a endangered animal/carnivore. But people of Arya Varth made use of its skin to decorate a fricking chariot.
6th
"The king Kekaya, treating him hospitably gave that Bharata the best of elephants, woolen clothes of varied colors, antelope skins and riches."
7th.
Brahma's boon to Kartikeya.
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The lord Brahma gave unto that god devoted to Brahman a black deer-skin.
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8th (animal skin as cloth).
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"How could Rama the tiger among men, who used to sleep on a couch horded with rich cushions covered with superior hairy skins of antelopes, sleep on a bare floor?"
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9th;
"And many taking out their polished sabres from sheaths made of the skins of leopards and tigers, slew the combatants opposed to them in battle."
10th:
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"Daruka, O best of kings, yoked those steeds unto that car covered with tiger-skins and ever capable of scorching all foes."
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11th.
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"For four years that king went out a hunting, with his son Bhîsma, deer and other wild animals and got the highest happiness as Mahâdeva finds in company with Kârtikeya. Once, on an occasion, while he was shooting arrows at rhinoceros and boar, etc., he went so far as to reach a forest on the banks of the Yamunâ, the chief of the rivers."
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Brahmins can demote a group of people into a low caste.
[Quote]
"The Mekalas, the Dravidas, the Lathas, the Paundras, the Konwasiras, the Saundikas, the Daradas, the Darvas, the Chauras, the Savaras, the Varvaras, the Kiratas, the Yavanas, and numerous other tribes of Kshatriyas, have become degraded into the status of Sudras through the wrath of Brahmanas."
Logic - about 13 tribes were listed here and it's hinted that their are many more. Assuming each tribe had 2 thousand people then over 26,000 beings were demoted in rank and live low qualities of life due to a brahmins anger.
A brahmin called "Bharadvajh" decided one day he would contaminate a whole river and fill it with alcoholic liquid.
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"Let some rivers flow with Maireya (a kind of wine made from date palms etc) some others flow with highly refined spirituous liquor and some others flow with cool water with a taste of sugarcane."
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My Comment; another brahmin from Mahabharat of Vyasa was also named "maitreya" that means his parents named him after a alcoholic beverage, hes the guy who cursed Duryodhan just for scratching the ground with his foot.
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Sudras were all slaves.
[Quote]
"As regards the different orders, he gave unto each a portion of excellence. Unto brahmanas he assigned that foremost of all things, the Veda. Unto the kshatriya he assigned superior energy. Unto the vaishya he gave skill, and unto the shudra he gave the duty of serving the three other classes."
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Logic - aryans believed that forcing a entire fraction of the human population into slavery was just and morally right.
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Exaggeration.
Character's in Ramayan & Mahabharat that were considered aryans uttered many incorrect words and disagreeable claims.
1) A minister named "Sumantra" had been employed in Ayodhya, he overrated the ability and competence of it's king "Dashrath" to a gross extent:
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"King Dasaratha is unconquerable as great Indra, unshakable as mountain and imperturbable as a great ocean."
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Logic - this character called Dasaratha was conquered many times before the incident in the link. He was defeated by danavas and asurA's in the battle at Vaijayanti. Dasaratha even feared Ravan & peed himself when Viswamitr came to ask him for support.
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Incest among the devtas.
Daksha & Bhrigu were both son's to Brahma, guess who Bhrigu married? He married a daughter of Daksha who was "Khyati"
Athiests were punished & harassed by aryan kings:
"The atheists, who were separated from their right path and who had been tormented; with punishment earlier by the king, are now without fear and are able to exercise their old temperament (due to anarchy)."
Waste of wealth in the form of gift's.
[Quote]
"In these jewels and clothes, a worth of hundred crores is to be given to the king Kekeya and likewise a worth of ten crores in full to your maternal uncle."
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Slavery is a common practice in ayodhya.
[quote]
"In that ceremony performed in honor of the dead king, Bharata the son of Dasaratha gave multitudes of white goats, servants and servant maids to Brahmans."
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Logic - women were slaves too.
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Incest in Mahabharat.
Devaki told Kamsa that her daughter could marry his son.
[Quote]
"Thereafter, all the watchmen very quickly approached King Kaṁsa, the ruler of the Bhoja dynasty, and submitted the news of the birth of Devakī’s child. Kaṁsa, who had awaited this news very anxiously, immediately took action."
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[Quote]
"Devakī helplessly, piteously appealed to Kaṁsa: My dear brother, all good fortune unto you. Don’t kill this girl. She will be your daughter-in-law. Indeed, it is unworthy of you to kill a woman."
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