Monday, November 21, 2022

Footnotes in Kmg Mahabharat & Valmiki's Ramayan.

1st:
"Prajapati, assuming the Form of a deer, followed his daughter from lust, and Rudra, armed with a trident, pursued Prajapati and struck off his head. That deer-head of Prajapati severed from the trunk, became the star, or rather constellation, called Mrigasiras."

2nd:
"The thousand-handed Arjuna, called also Kartaviryarjuna, the vanquisher of Ravana, the chief of Haihaya clan of Kshatriyas having his capital at Mahishmati on the banks of the Narmada (Nerbuda), was slain by Rama."
3rd:
"Dasaratha's son Rama, during his exile, slew the monkey-chief Bali, the brother of Sugriva, while Bali was engaged with Sugriva in battle. Bali had not done any injury to Rama. That act has always been regarded as a stain on Rama."
4th:
"The Nishadas were and to this day are the lowest caste in India."
5th:
"The vow of the Asuras was (according to the Burdwan Pundits) never to drink wine. It is more rational to suppose that Karna swears to give up the refined manners and practices of the Aryas and adopt those of the Asuras till the consummation of the cherished desire."
6th]
"Hayaraja, lit., the prince of steeds. He was an Asura, otherwise called Kesi, in the form of a steed."

7th] Character of Prince Sweta is in Bengali Mahabharat.
"Occurring, however, as it does in both the Bengal and the Bombay texts, I cannot omit in the English version."
8th]
What Bhishma says is this: I am bound by the Kauravas and, therefore, I am not a free agent. Obliged I am to battle against you. Yet I am saying, "What do you ask of me?" as if I could really give you what you might ask. My words, therefore, are without meaning, or vain, like those of a eunuch. Klivavat is explained by Nilakantha as Kataravat. Even in that case, the sense would be the same.

9th] According to footnotes parshuram fought kartikey not ganesh.
"Rama of Bhrigu's race went to Mahadeva for acquiring the science of arms. While dwelling in Siva's retreat, he had a quarrel with Karttikeya or Kumara, the son of Siva's loins. Rama worsted his preceptor's son in battle, at which his preceptor, gratified with him, made him a present of his own battle-axe, wherewith the regenerate here exterminated the Kshatriyas for full one and twenty times."
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Footnotes of Ramayana.
[1]
Asura Baliraj defeating Ravan.
"Emperor Bali is more powerful and mighty than Ravana. aananda raamaayana says in a chapter on the 'defeats of Ravana' raavaNa paraajaya, that Ravana once entered netherworld to conquer it, where Bali is held captive by Trivikrama, i.e., Vishnu. At that time Bali and his queen are playing dice game. When Ravana entered, the dice in the hand of Bali has slipped to the floor, and Bali asks Ravana to pick and give it before conquering netherworld. Ravana who lifted Mt. Kailash could not lift that two-inch dice, which is so far handled playfully by Bali. Such is the might of Emperor Bali."
[2]
What a dying man see's.
"A dying person fantasises golden trees and the like presuming his travel to heaven. By these illusions his death is predictable."
[3] Vishnu gave birth to a daughter.
"When Vishnu was in His meditation all the other apsara-s came to Him to disturb His meditation. Knowing that, Vishnu gave birth to this Uurvashi from his things. Thus, she is called the one who came from thighs uuruH 'from thighs...' and this word is defined as uru vaSTi 'muchly, splendorous one...' Then the other apsara-s had to accept ashamedly that Uurvashi is a beauty of higher order. Kalidasa took this as his subject for his drama Vikramorvashiiyam."
[4] Comparison of Ram and ravAn's body.
"He stood before her showing his mighty physique, expecting her to yield on seeing such a magnificent manly physique, which dissimilar to the girlish physique of her husband Rama."
[5] Explanation for laxman's rekha given by a author/commentator/translater;
"What happened to the lakshmaNa rekha? 'A boundary drawn by Lakshmana when he departed Seetha in search of Rama?' Some discussion about this is there in the endnote. Here, even though Ravana is su duSTa aatmaa, kaama mohitaa 'a very wicked souled and lustily crazed....' it is all for other women, but not towards Seetha. And thus he caught hold of Seetha, as the planet Budha, Jupiter, the son of Moon catches his own Star mother Rohini, a dear wife the Moon, reverentially. Maheshvara Tiirtha. Later commentators rejected this saying that, if it were to be so, then Ravana has Oedipus complex."
[6] Linking the daimond body of Suyodhan with Hanutati's cowardly act:
"She travelled the length and breadth of the country barefooted, that too in impenetrable forests. These ladies of lore had their yogic faculties with which Gaandhaari, the mother Duryodhana, in Maha Bharata makes him a diamond-bodied one, excepting his thighs. Their words come true if they utter them with certain concentration. At the time of burning the tail of Hanuma in Sundara Kaanda Seetha says: siito bhava (cool down...) Let the fire on the tail of that monkey be coolant to him and it happened accordingly. That burning tail burnt whole Lanka, except some places, without any scorching effect on Hanuma."
[7] Fight between Indra-Ravan;
"Ravana has already conquered Indra and the said gods are responsible for the routine administration of universe. Hence, he is informing Maareecha about ordinary kings, presuming that Maareecha does not recognize the rectitude in dealing with ordinary kings, more so, with the king of kings, namely Ravana himself, which he says in next verse. A king acquires these traits of the presiding deities of the compass, by virtue of his kingship, and the sages said the very same to Rama when he entered Dandaka forest."

[8] Info about Vimanas:
"It may be noted that this sort of air-chariots, though richly decorated with valuable gold and gems, but drawn by asses or mules, that too ghost-faced ones, are a kind of the then sci-fi version of aircrafts. Ravana's son Indrajit also uses such spaceships in Yuddha Kanda and his weaponry is altogether different, i.e., somewhat like the present day laser oriented hardware. These propellers may not be construed as real donkeys or mules but some powered vehicle-drawing instruments designed to look like ordinary harmless creatures."
[9] Maricha's betrayal:
"Maareecha would have died without yelling for Lakshmana or Seetha as tutored by Ravana because Maareecha is no real alley of Ravana. But it is said that he recollected Ravana's words and thought about it. What he really thought is the causation of death to that one who caused his own death, namely Ravana."
"Ravana can do nothing to Maareecha now as Maareecha is breathing his last. Whatever is to be done now it has to become a self-ruinous act to Ravana. Hence, it is better to do as said by Ravana for the elimination of Ravana. So thought Maareecha."

[10] Ram's brothers got aroused seeing his wife;
"The covert operation of Lakshmana as instantly surmised by Seetha is that, 'when one half-brother Bharata can snatch the kingdom from Rama, you, the other half-brother, can snatch away his wife, hence you have come with covert intentions, on your own, leaving all your kinsfolk. Or, Bharata wanted me too along with the kingdom, so he might have instigated you to fetch me for him, after Rama's death, thus he covertly sent you alone."
[11] Parshuram doing 37 genocide's not 21.
"Parashu Rama is frenziedly infuriated and starts eliminating all of the enthroned Kshatriya bloodlines on earth. That way he roves over the earth for thirty seven times eliminating Kshatriya-s. He even cuts off the foetuses in wombs of their queens, in order to stop the menacing progeny and offers the blood of the foetus as oblation. And that blood became five streams called shamanta-pancaka. Bhaargava or Parashu Rama practises insurmountable ascesis and appeases God Shiva, and thus acquires divine weaponry. He is indomitable in archery and nothing is unknown to him in the art of archery. Yet, he resorts to an axe to behead cruel kings, physically and personally, without depending up on a distant shooting arrow."
[12] Incorrect explanation for why the clan of Ikshvaku survived Parshuram's campaign;
"Bhaargava Rama safeguarded one great dynasty of Ikshvaku-s, for they are related to his grandmother, besides at the request of Renuka Devi, his mother...' So, god Bhaargava Rama is a nepotist and saved Dasharatha Rama. Not so, Bhaargava Rama is neither a nepotist nor a god to be worshipped. He is not worshipped because his incarnation is not a full incarnation of Vishnu as Dasharatha Rama. Only the wrathful impetuosity of Vishnu is incarnated like Bhaargava Rama to perform butchery and even infanticide. Bhaargava Rama is a highly impudent personality and blinded by his wrath, thus to eliminate his own Kshatriya-s [namely his own relatives, Dasharatha and his sons; again the caste system is peeping in, isn't it!]"
[13] Claim of brahmin's dying in war.
"So said Bhiishma to Krishna and thereby Panadava-s have eliminated Drona, Kripa, Ashvatthaama and suchlike weaponed Brahman-s in war, but not in peace. There are many more such sayings of Bhiishma. Here Parashu Rama said that he will give a duel to Rama, hence he is no more a Brahman when he raises a weapon. And he is a blood relation of Vishvamitra, and that corner of mercy is not allowing Rama to release the arrow on Parashu Rama."
Logic - this footnote in particular makes absolutely no sense as in Mahabharat nowhere were the death's of Kripa, Ashvathaman etc ever mentioned, among that list of name's only the character of Drona died that too by Dhrishtadyumna not any pandav.
Also per Sanjay/Vaisampayan one account is given that Drona himself took his own life by seperating his soul from the body through a yogic technique.

[14] animal Kingdom:
Formerly a tiger ran in pursuit of a hunter. The latter climbed up a tree. There was bear already preached on a bough of the tree. Making to the foot of the tree, the tiger addressed the following words to the bear: "Look here, both of us are denizens of the forest. The hunter is our common enemy. Therefore, knock him down from the tree." The bear, however, replied: "Having reached my abode, the hunter has in a way sought asylum with me. I am therefore not going to hurl him down; I would be deviating from my duty if I do so." Saying so, the bear laid himself down to sleep. The tiger now turned to the hunter and said, "Push the bear down. I shall afford protection to you." The hunter thereupon pushed the sleeping bear. The bear, however, clutched at another bough and thus escaped from falling down. The tiger now addressed the following appeal to the bear: "The hunter sought to hurl you down and has thus wronged you. Therefore push him down." Though pressed by the tiger again and again, the bear refused to hurl him down and repeated the above quoted verse in support of his attitude.
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[15]
Garuda: The bird and vehicle of Vishnu. He is generally represented as a being something between a man and a bird and considered as the sovereign of the feathered race. He may be compared with the Simurgh of the Persians, the Ank of the Arabs, the Griffin of chivalry [without lion's body,] the Phoenix of Egypt, and the bird that sits upon the ash Yggdrasil of the Edda. - Griffith.
[16]
"Rama and Lakshmana will use arrows and missiles as their weaponry in the ensuing final war with Ravana. The vanara soldiers use stones, trees, and their own claws and nails. The golden maces or clubs handled by Hanuma, Sugreeva, and Vali usually depicted in pictures are for more mythical ornamentation to glorify the characters. However, these Vaanaras are well versed in the knowledge of such tactical weaponry, only to save themselves from their usage against them, but do not use them necessarily. In Sundara Kanda Hanuma will be tied by a magical weapon called Brahmaastra when he is in Lanka."

[17] Kartikey argued with Shiva.
"It is said that each of the six Krittika-stars came forward to give her milk firstly to this boy. Observing their eagerness to feed him, Skanda / Kaartikeya made his one face into six and sucked all the milk of all the six stars and become an adolescent boy in day. Hence he looked like the one with six faces, by which he is called ShaNmukha, six-faced deity. Later he argues with his father Shiva that he is superior to Shiva, because he has five-faces of Shiva, plus his own, totalling to a six, and he is a six-faced deity, superior to the five-faced god, namely Shiva. In another way, the boy by birth is dextrous and he sucked the milk of all the six mothers in split second with one face, but it appeared to all deities that the boy has been sucking milk with six faces, i.e., with rapid-face-movement. Thus on establishing his ambidextrous personality, the gods nominate him as the Chief of Celestial Army."

[18] Vishwamitr's cloning was done by Electricity.
"And if god created the cosmos, a man trying to duplicating it, is as good as going against that writ of that god. Vishvamitra no doubt built many space stations and started cloning gods, leave alone earthly species, but he is forestalled, because he wanted to break the system from within, in which he is and by which he mastered all this expertise. It is as good as cutting the branch of a tree on which he is sitting. Absolute insolence is absolutely condemnable. Hence, Trishanku is still dangling upside down in his so-called heaven."
[19]
"It has been a convention among Indian troops in the past to burn whatever is removing their essential things and tents while leaving a halting place in the course of their march to a destination. The idea is not to leave any trace of their whereabouts for the enemy. The practise was also believed to bring triumph to the troops who resorted to it."
[20]
"The Kailash mountain believed to be the abode of Shiva, the tutelary god of the Snowy Range of Central Asia and the wealth god Kubera, was to the north of Himalayas. It would appear to correspond with the Kwenlun Range, which extends northwards and connects with the Altai chain. The route indicated must have been by the south skirts of the desert towards the west, to pass by the Kailash Range...' Ancient Geography. This is presently in Tibet."
[21]
"Ravana is a brother of Kubera and the aircraft of Kubera, namely Pushpaka, is seized from this very Kubera. Thus, there is every chance to hide Seetha at Kubera's place bringing Kubera under duress."
[22]
"Perhaps these poetic accounts of golden, jewelled riverbanks and golden lotuses etc. might have attracted the then invaders towards India, presuming that the loot is over there on the riverbanks like sand. However mythical these accounts might be, they portray that the lands and rivers are self-contained and self-sufficient."
23]
"The north of Himalayas is referred as the northern ocean. It is held that Himalayas have emerged from an ocean to where Vali used to leap everyday in the early hours to offer water oblation to the Sun."
24]
"Here we have a glimpse of the Arctic region with the Aurora Borealis to the north of the Uttara Kuru realms. The Uttara Kurus, it should be remembered, may have been a real people, as they mentioned in the aitareya braahmaNa viii-14  wherefore the several nations who dwell in this northern quarter beyond the Himalayas, the Uttara Kurus and the Uttara Madras are consecrated to glorious dominion and people term them glorious."
25]
"Therefore, Ramayana must have occurred 9600 years ago, which is 7600 B.C. approximately. Which again is disputable because this is going against the Yuga and Kalpa Theory of Puraana-s, as Ramayana is said to be the legend of Treta Yuga."
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My opinion - i believe that most of these footnotes make no sense, a few have logic tied to them like the comparison of Ravan & Ram's bodies. But others do not.

Fact's - these footnotes were not a part of Mahabharat and Ramayan at all because they are not from the author, they are just comment's made by a bunch of translaters and bhakts who provide their own interpretation's.

A foot note should never ever be used in a debate.
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Tuesday, November 15, 2022

The truth about aryan society.

In Mahabharata these are the types of things society did.
Vast quantity of animal population is lost in rituals of aryavarth.

1st - King Rantidev's;
[quote]
"All the vessels and plates, in Rantideva's palace, for holding food and other articles, all the jugs and pots, the pans and plates and cups, were of gold. On those nights during which the guests used to live in Rantideva's abode, twenty thousand and one hundred kine had to be slaughtered. Yet even on such occasions, the cooks, decked in ear-rings, used to proclaim (amongst those that sat down to supper)."
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2 - King Dashrath's sacrifice of animals;
[quote]
The sages have arranged those animals that are to be there in animal sacrifices, like horse and other aquatic animals, in that ritual according to scriptures.
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Women took their younger brother in laws as husbands:
"A woman in the absence of her husband, takes his younger brother for her lord; even so the Earth, not having obtained the: Brahmana, made the Kshatriya her lord."
Logic - maybe Laxman was the lord/swami or husband of Seetha then?

Desire of women destroys families (according to Brahma the creator):
"Verily, women are exceedingly fond of sexual congress. Among a thousand women, or, perhaps, among hundreds of thousands, sometimes only one may be found that is devoted to her husband. When under the influence of desire, they care not for family or father or mother or brother or husband or sons or husband's brother (but pursue the way that desire points out)."
"Verily, in pursuit of what they consider happiness, they destroy the family (to which they belong by birth or marriage) even as many queenly rivers eat away the banks that contain them. The Creator himself had said this, quickly marking the faults of women."
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m13/m13a019.htm
Marrying women of the Sudra caste is condemned by the "righteous":
"The righteous condemn the practice of begetting issue upon Sudra women. A Brahmana, by begetting children upon a Sudra woman, incurs the liability of performing an expiation."
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m13/m13b009.htm

Marrying a woman a third of your age is advised:
"A person of thirty years of age should wed a girl of ten years of age called a Nagnika. Or, a person of one and twenty years of age should wed a girl of seven years of age."
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m13/m13b009.htm

How females were seen in aryan kingdom's.
"Women of course are deceivers, even occupied with selfishness. Let them be condemned! Here, I am not mentioning of all women but of Bharata's mother only."
Note: dashrath said "women of course" first, and condemned them second but after those two statements he tried to minimize his words and started to claim he's only talking about Kaikeyi not any other female.
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Modern day rivers in Mahabharata times:
"The very many rivers that flowing through Kasmira, fall into the great river called Sindhu (Indus). By bathing in these rivers one is sure to become endued with good character and to ascend to heaven after departing from this world."
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m13/m13a025.htm
[below/underneath arya does not mean NOBLe]
Difference between aryans and other tribes got pointed out;
"And the Mlechchhas and the Aryas there who witnessed or heard of that behaviour of the sons of Pandu, all wept with choked voices."
Logic - their was a clear difference between Mleccha's and Arya's/aryan's.

More proof;
[quote]
"Diverse tribes of Mlechchas too, who had been discomfited before and many Aryan kings, possessed of soldiers and animals endued with great alacrity, and all irresistible in fight encountered the son of Pandu in battle."
Logic - even if they have a common enemy (arjun/pandav) they will choose to differentiate themselves.
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Meat Eating, death of animals.
1st;
Yudhishthira asked "Tell me what that object is which, if dedicated to the Pitris, becomes inexhaustible?"
Bhishma said "With the meat of the buffalo their gratification lasts for eleven months." "The potherb called Kalasaka, the petals of the Kanchana flower, and meat of the goat also, thus offered, prove inexhaustible."
"One born in our race should, under the constellation Magha, as if in the observance of a vow, offer the meat of goat or the petals of the Kanchana flower." "Even a little of water, roots, fruits, meat, and rice, mixed with honey, if offered on the anniversary of the day of death becomes inexhaustible."

2nd;
[Quote]
"May the blessed moon-god furnish me many-coloured flowers which have just fallen from the flower-plants or trees, the drinks like wine and others as also various kinds of meat."
[End]
Comment - a old brahmin said this and he was given respect by Bharat (brother to Ram)

3rd;
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"Dishes of goat and boar with delicious sauces were there and condiments that were spicy, fragrant and succulent, cooked in fruit juices; vessels of rare metals filled with rice, decorated with flowers, were offered in thousands to those soldiers there."
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Logic; goats and boars were eaten by the namard army of ayodhya.

What Ashwathama sir thinks about meat eater's.
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"As regards those that live by practising the profession of flowers and vendors of meat, they may earn wealth by expedients fraught with deceit and fraud."
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Using the skin of animals for clothing.
1:
"Dasharatha's son Rama is the one with inescapable arms and keen-eyed, but has jute-cloths and skin of black-deer for his dress."
2:
"I wish to sit along with you on its golden deerskin, overlaying it on a seat of tender darbha grass-blades, in case the deer is felled."
Comment - this time it was for a mere seat, how can that be a valid reason to take away its life?

3: Kaikeyi's word.
[quote]
"Rama has to take refuge in the forest of Dandaka for fourteen years and let him become an ascetic wearing rags, deer skin and matted hair."
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4:
"I shall be delighted to see you, initiated for the perfect religious act of austerity, wearing excellent antelope-hide, being pure and bearing a deer-horn in hand."
Basic - antelope skin for clothing, and horns of a deer for decoration and style.

5. quoTe
"He saw all the people who came there to behold him, approached nearer to them, greeted them and mounted the excellent chariot, which was resplendent like fire and covered with tiger's skin."
[End]
Logic - the tiger is a endangered animal/carnivore. But people of Arya Varth made use of its skin to decorate a fricking chariot.
6th
"The king Kekaya, treating him hospitably gave that Bharata the best of elephants, woolen clothes of varied colors, antelope skins and riches."
7th.
Brahma's boon to Kartikeya.
[Quote]
The lord Brahma gave unto that god devoted to Brahman a black deer-skin.
[End]

8th (animal skin as cloth).
{Quote}
"How could Rama the tiger among men, who used to sleep on a couch horded with rich cushions covered with superior hairy skins of antelopes, sleep on a bare floor?"
{End}

9th;
"And many taking out their polished sabres from sheaths made of the skins of leopards and tigers, slew the combatants opposed to them in battle."

10th:
[quote]
"Daruka, O best of kings, yoked those steeds unto that car covered with tiger-skins and ever capable of scorching all foes."
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11th.
[quote]
"For four years that king went out a hunting, with his son Bhîsma, deer and other wild animals and got the highest happiness as Mahâdeva finds in company with Kârtikeya. Once, on an occasion, while he was shooting arrows at rhinoceros and boar, etc., he went so far as to reach a forest on the banks of the Yamunâ, the chief of the rivers."
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Brahmins can demote a group of people into a low caste.
[Quote]
"The Mekalas, the Dravidas, the Lathas, the Paundras, the Konwasiras, the Saundikas, the Daradas, the Darvas, the Chauras, the Savaras, the Varvaras, the Kiratas, the Yavanas, and numerous other tribes of Kshatriyas, have become degraded into the status of Sudras through the wrath of Brahmanas."
Logic - about 13 tribes were listed here and it's hinted that their are many more. Assuming each tribe had 2 thousand people then over 26,000 beings were demoted in rank and live low qualities of life due to a brahmins anger.

A brahmin called "Bharadvajh" decided one day he would contaminate a whole river and fill it with alcoholic liquid.
[Quote]
"Let some rivers flow with Maireya (a kind of wine made from date palms etc) some others flow with highly refined spirituous liquor and some others flow with cool water with a taste of sugarcane."
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My Comment; another brahmin from Mahabharat of Vyasa was also named "maitreya" that means his parents named him after a alcoholic beverage, hes the guy who cursed Duryodhan just for scratching the ground with his foot.
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Sudras were all slaves.
[Quote]
"As regards the different orders, he gave unto each a portion of excellence. Unto brahmanas he assigned that foremost of all things, the Veda. Unto the kshatriya he assigned superior energy. Unto the vaishya he gave skill, and unto the shudra he gave the duty of serving the three other classes."
[End]
Logic - aryans believed that forcing a entire fraction of the human population into slavery was just and morally right.
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Exaggeration.
Character's in Ramayan & Mahabharat that were considered aryans uttered many incorrect words and disagreeable claims.

1) A minister named "Sumantra" had been employed in Ayodhya, he overrated the ability and competence of it's king "Dashrath" to a gross extent:
[Quote]
"King Dasaratha is unconquerable as great Indra, unshakable as mountain and imperturbable as a great ocean."
[End]
Logic - this character called Dasaratha was conquered many times before the incident in the link. He was defeated by danavas and asurA's in the battle at Vaijayanti. Dasaratha even feared Ravan & peed himself when Viswamitr came to ask him for support.
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Incest among the devtas.
Daksha & Bhrigu were both son's to Brahma, guess who Bhrigu married? He married a daughter of Daksha who was "Khyati"

Athiests were punished & harassed by aryan kings:
"The atheists, who were separated from their right path and who had been tormented; with punishment earlier by the king, are now without fear and are able to exercise their old temperament (due to anarchy)."

Waste of wealth in the form of gift's.
[Quote]
"In these jewels and clothes, a worth of hundred crores is to be given to the king Kekeya and likewise a worth of ten crores in full to your maternal uncle."
[End]

Slavery is a common practice in ayodhya.
[quote]
"In that ceremony performed in honor of the dead king, Bharata the son of Dasaratha gave multitudes of white goats, servants and servant maids to Brahmans."
[end]
Logic - women were slaves too.
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Incest in Mahabharat.
Devaki told Kamsa that her daughter could marry his son.
[Quote]
"Thereafter, all the watchmen very quickly approached King Kaṁsa, the ruler of the Bhoja dynasty, and submitted the news of the birth of Devakī’s child. Kaṁsa, who had awaited this news very anxiously, immediately took action."
[End]

[Quote]
"Devakī helplessly, piteously appealed to Kaṁsa: My dear brother, all good fortune unto you. Don’t kill this girl. She will be your daughter-in-law. Indeed, it is unworthy of you to kill a woman."
[End]

Monday, November 14, 2022

Behavior of hanuman bhakts (1).

These people claim to be "white knights" gentlemen etc, respect every women, never talk SH!T about a female (HER).
Yet i see them do this.
Before i show the image's/proof allow me to explain that the quora account named "Shiv Bhakt" is another name of "Ashok Kumawat" a hanuman bhakt.
Now that it's been clarified i'm going to give my screenshot's.
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[2]
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                    THESE THREE are just for one person (ashok kumawat).
NOW i'm going to discuss other devotees of Hanuman (the way they act/etc).
But i'll just give PHOTO'S not any lines (like i wont provide commentary/my opinion).
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[2]
END {12;33 AM November eleventh.}
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BONUS;
Ashok Kumawat proves how much of a PERVERT he is.
Disgusting, leacherous and vulgar.
[i made this edit at 3;43 AM]
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Incase none of u realised the bhakts of hanutati are "B" & "Dark" (youtube account's).

They threaten to physically abuse someone, beat them up etc for telling the truth about hanuman. HOW IS THIS BEHAVIOR not identical to the behavior of karna fans?
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By The Way i have hundreds of other screenshot's saved on my other lap top but i can not access them right now. I've decided to just post these five that i gathered this past week.

Maybe i will provide a part 2 and part 3 following sequels to this post in another month or week.

Thursday, July 14, 2022

Disrobing of namard Bhishma.

List of this bhadva beta of Ganga's defeats.
People (karn fan's, bhishma fans, hindus etc, indian's) expect me to show special respect and recognition to the lund chooser Bhishmaji yet they would never show that izzat to certain individuals or character's in Mahabharat and Ramayan.

Even though pandav hater's always disrespect/insult Dhristadyumn, Satyaki, Nakul, Arjun, Abhimanyu, Ghatotkaca, Sweta, Drupada, Bheem, Iravan, Yudhisthir and Srikandhi etc. These 12 people do not gain respect from the id!ots of the world.

Note - i will only give ten of his defeat's here because even i am not interested in really talking about it anymore, its kind of boring, i also most likely wont put that many photos in this post.
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Begin.
1st defeat.
[Quote]
"mighty son of Jamadagni, filled with wrath, suddenly wheeling to my right, pierced me in the breast. At this, I swooned like a namard. And beholding me, reft of consciousness, my charioteer quickly bore me away from the field. And seeing me afflicted and pierced with Rama's weapons and borne away drooping and in a swoon, all the followers of Rama, including Akritavrana and others and the princess of Kasi, filled with joy, began to shout aloud!"
[End]

Quote;
Bhishma said "Regaining consciousness then, I told my driver Go where Rama stayeth! My pains have left me, and I am ready for battle!"
Logic - that charioteer had taken Bhishma away from the location of Parshupu$$y meaning it is a valid retreat. Also when Bhishma swooned a 2nd time then he did not retreat, so he has no excuse for his loss during the first swooning.
 
2nd defeat of Bhishma.
[Quote]
"Dhananjaya, the son of Kunti, pierced Bhishma in the breast with ten shafts although the latter was contending with all his prowess. And sorely afflicted with pain Ganga's son of mighty arms and irresistible in battle, stood for a long time leaning on the pole of his car. And beholding him deprived of consciousness the driver of his car-steeds, calling to mind the instructions about protecting the warriors when in a swoon, led him away for safety."
[End]
Proof that it was a defeat.
[Quote]
"After Bhishma had fled, leaving the van of battle, the illustrious son of Dhritarashtra hoisting high flag approached Arjuna, bow in hand and setting up a loud roar."
[End]
Again:
"That wonderful story which is heard of an encounter in the city of Virata between a single person on one side and innumerable warriors on the other, is sufficient proof of this. That ye all fled in all directions being routed in the city of Virata by that son of Pandu singly, is sufficient proof of this. Might, prowess, energy, speed, lightness of hand, indefatiguableness, and patience are not to be found in any one else save Partha."
Gangapootr admitting it;
[quote]
"In Virata's city, alone he fell upon all of us united together. That is a sufficient indication. Vanquishing in battle both Drona and myself excited with rage, he took away our robes. That is a sufficient indication."
[end]
Final Quote;
"It was by this hero of fierce deeds that Bhishma and Drona, along with Duryodhana, were vanquished. That achievement is his and not mine."
[end]
Logic - bhishma was also disrobed, stripped of his clothes completely like a randi.

Defeated a third occasion.
"Bhishma, beholding that best of men thus going away, struck him with arrows. And Partha, too, having slain Bhishma's steeds, pierced him with ten shafts. And abandoning Bhishma on the field of battle, having first slain his car-driver, Arjuna with a good-looking bow in hand came out of that multitude of cars."
[eNd]
Logic - Arjun wounded ganga's putra with 10 arrow's and killed 2 of his horse's, while ghulam and chutiya bhishma pitamaha failed to do even half of that to Arjuna.
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Bhishma's 4th defeat.
[Quote]
"Sweta in that combat cut off Bhishma's bow into ten fragments with ten arrows. Then aiming a plumed arrow made wholly of iron, (Sweta) crushed the palmyra on the top of the standard of the high-souled (Bhishma). And beholding the standard of Bhishma cut down, thy sons thought that Bhishma was slain, having succumbed to Sweta. And the Pandavas also filled with delight, blew their conches all around. And beholding the palmyra standard of the high-souled Bhishma laid low, Duryodhana, from wrath, urged his own army to the battle. And they all began very carefully to protect Bhishma who was in great distress."
[End]
Logic - here Bhishma was in dire need of protection, he is mostly clearly on the recieving end of this duel, he was losing, he was disarmed & his grandson asked an entire army to save him.

5th defeat.
[quote]
"O king, the son of Virata, then, smiling, joyfully took up a mace for Bhishma's slaughter, with eyes red in wrath, and resembling a second Yama armed with mace, he rushed against Bhishma like a swollen torrent against the rocks. Regarding his impetuosity as incapable of getting checked, Bhishma endued with great prowess and conversant with the might (of others), suddenly alighted on the ground for warding off that blow. Sweta then, O king, whirling in wrath that heavy mace, hurled it on Bhishma's car like the god Maheswara. And in consequence of that mace intended for Bhishma's destruction, that car was reduced to ashes, with standard, and charioteer, and steeds and shaft. Beholding Bhishma, that foremost of car-warriors, become a combatant on foot, many car-warriors, Salya and others, speedily rushed (to his rescue)."
[end]
Explanation - if bhishma didn't leave his chariot Sveta's mace would have either reduced Bhishma himself to ash or Bhishma may have died. The madarchod bhishma needed to duck, run, hide and dodge, he needed outside help from other people but Sveta did not need any such unfair support.

6th defeat:
Is because of Arjun on the 1st day.
[Quote]
"And then the combat commenced between Bhishma and Arjuna."
[End]
[another quoTe]
"And soon abandoning in that battle, Pandu's son (Arjuna) capable of drawing the bow with even his left hand, Bhishma rushed towards Drupada, the king of the Panchalas, surrounded by his host. And he soon covered his dear relative with innumerable arrows."
[Another enD]
Logic He ran away from Arjuna who was being mild and nice to Bhishma here.
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Now i am going to post defeat's of shri bhismacarya on day's 3 through 8.

Lost 2 bows in a dozen seconds.
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"Partha, taking up his celestial bow whose twang resembled the roar of the clouds, caused Bhishma's bow to drop down, cutting it off with his keen shafts. The Kuru warrior, thy sire, seeing his bow cut off, took up another and stringed it within the twinkling of the eye. And he stretched that bow whose twang resembled the roar of the clouds, with his two hands. But Arjuna, excited with wrath, cut off that bow also of his."
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Note: this may not be considered a loss, but it was indeed a poor performance/showing for him. Bhishma was clearly overpowered.

8th loss:
"Bhishma, and Drona and Duryodhana and Valhika, exceedingly mangled by the weapons (of Arjuna), beholding the sun withdraw his rays, and seeing also that awful and irresistible weapon called after the name of Indra spread out and causing (as it were) the end of the Yuga to appear, withdraw their forces for the nightly rest."
Comment - this's also from day three.

Proof it was a defeat.
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"Bhishma himself, have on battle, by the prowess of his own arms, been vanquished today by the angry son of Pritha, Kiritin, that one mighty car-warrior in the world."
Talking thus, O Bharata, all the warriors of thy side went to their tents from the field of battle. And all the combatants of the Kuru army frightened by Kiritin, then entered their tents illumined by thousands of torches, and beautified by innumerable lamps.
[]
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9th defeat.
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"Bhishma of mighty energy, creating in that battle a very river whose waters were the blood of foes, and quickly avoiding Subhadra's son, encountered that mighty car-warrior, Partha himself."
[]
Explaining; this's from the fourth day and Bhishma decided on refusing to accept abhimanyus challenge, he was a pure coward like mahatma gandhi.
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10th defeat.
Bhishma losing.
Day 10.
[Quote]
"Then confused cries of woe soon arose amongst the Matsyas, the Panchalas, and the Chedis, who were together rushing at that single hero. With large numbers of foot-soldiers and steeds and cars, and with showers of arrows, O scorcher of foes, they overwhelmed that single warrior, bhishma the son of Bhagirathi, that scorcher of foes, like the clouds overwhelming the maker of day."
[End]
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Conclusion - bhishma is weaker than Shakuni, Akbar, Aurangzeb, Rana Pratap's brother Jagmal Singh & Rana Udai even Mir Jaffar could slap bhishma & teach him a lesson.
Droupadi and Sahadev had a son who would've defeated bhishma with great ease.
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Cross references for Bhishma getting punked out everytime like hanuman alway's lost.
Quote 1;
"Resembling Sakra in prowess and Surya in energy, Bhishma the son of Ganga, of infinite might, had been overthrown in battle by Arjuna"
[End]
This was based on Kurukshetra.
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Namard Bhishma was protected by not only prince Duhsasana but in his life many other kings protected Bhishma.

On the 8th day this's mentioned.
[quote]
"Meanwhile, Arjuna, not knowing that the son of his loins had been slaughtered, slew in that battle many kings who had been protecting Bhishma."
[end]
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Inconclusive fight's.
Virat Raj and Bhishma;
[Quote]
"King Virata then pierced that mighty car-warrior Bhishma, with three shafts. And that great car-warrior pierced his (antagonist's) steeds also with three shafts furnished with golden wings."
[End]
It is also mentioned that arjun and ashwathama both interfered after this. It was a team on team duel.
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My belief;
Though it is true that abstaining from $exual intercourse could prevent you from aging and growing weaker and it could preserve spiritual strength/energy the fact is that Bhishma was not a great warrior in Mahabharat.

Bhishma had Prasvapan Astra and Rudra Astra not Pashupatastra so his ignorant fanbase needs to understand the difference between prasvapan & pashupata.

Conclusion - bhishma was not a undefeated warrior, he is a clown whose been praised by has-beens, chutiyas and gandus.

The real powerful old men of Mahabharat would be;
1 - Guru Drona.
2 - Jarasandha.
Other than that Bhagadatta their would be an honoroable mention in the form of king Vahlika.

He was older than Bhishma's father Santanu and was successful in killing king Senavindu & knocking out a guy like Bheem (who bhishma never knocked out with a arrow at all).

I rate Ashwathama, Satyaki, Ghatotkaca, Abhimanyu as being warriors better than him.

Why this post was made;
I am not very satisfied with this post for some reason but i decided to post it to ensure i have content each month. And my fans/readers have something to read. And so that IT CAN BE USED (copied from) as a debating resource by bhishma h a t e r s (those who have NAFRAT in their hearts).

Tuesday, July 5, 2022

Crime committed by women in the world.

Intro - my blog really doesnt talk about topics outside of Ramayan/Mahabharat character's. But this is a rare exception that i will make.
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1.
The mother of a future criminal inspired her son to be a murderer.
[Quote]
"According to the detectives who interviewed him, when he was about six years old, his mother beat his little sister to death."
[End]
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2.
BIG ONE HERE/below.
During the Medieval Era of the continent currently known as 'Europe' their were many female monarch's and Queens in society.
[starT]
"We find that polities led by queens participated in war more than polities led by kings. Moreover, aggressive participation varied by marital status. Single queens were attacked more than single kings. However, married queens attacked more than married kings. These results suggest that asymmetries in the division of labor positioned married queens to be able to pursue more aggressive war policies."
[eNd]

[quote]
"We use these two factors as instruments for queenly rule to determine whether polities led by queens differed in their war participation relative to polities led by kings."
[ENd]

Quote:
"Using the first born male and sister instruments, we find that polities ruled by queens were 39 percentage points more likely to engage in a war in a given year, compared to polities ruled by kings."
[enD]

Last passage.
"The results show that polities led by queens participate in external wars more relative to polities led by kings. The estimates in columns (1)-(2) suggest that queens were between 11 to 13 percentage points more likely to be in war, relative to kings."
[End]

All taken from same source of content/info;
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Other quotes.
Proper timeline;
[Begin]
"between 1480 and 1913, Europe’s queens were 27% more likely than its kings to wage war, according to a National Bureau of Economics working paper (paywall). And like Isabella, queens were also more likely to amass new territory during their reigns"
[eNd]


Title of this one (link) speak's for itself;

{BEGIN}
"over the past 500 years, queens have been more likely to wage war than male rulers"
{END}
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3.
The case of "Maria Socorro de Rodriguez LaPinea definition for the words (kutti, randi a aurat who needs a durbhagya).

She was a killer.
[Quote]
"she is believed have been responsible for the deaths of nine people"
[End]
Logic she either killed the nine victim's herself or chose to hire/bribe/threaten others into doing her work for her. The work in this case would be 'murder'

Proving that she was a scam artist.
[Quote]
"Maria Socorro LaPine is wanted for fraud stemming from the $100,000 she collected after fabricating the death of a non-existent half-sister."
[enD]
Note: if it was a indian male who was scamming other's he would insulted, disrespected, vilified by millions of human being's. He would also get shamed more for his looks alone than the crime he actually committed.

Faking her death.
[Quote]
"The insurance company flagged the claim as suspicious and a judge ordered Maria’s grave to be dug up. Nothing was in the coffin except a big stack of newspapers."
[enD]

She robbed money through legal mean's from many many men and mard's in her zindagi.

Explaining what her crime was; What she did basically is convince and threaten people into writing checks and sign papers that give her access to all their wealth.

Logic - just because something is legal that does not mean that it is right. What's wrong should be considered wrong only. This lundchoosing randi was not worthy of any of the property, wealth and money that any of her male spouses earned.
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Heads up.
Now i'm moving onto another topic and incident, all of the following incidents will not be as length as number two & 3 were.
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4.
{quote}
"Snyder was charged with two counts of first-degree murder, two counts of endangering the welfare of children, two counts of third-degree murder, tampering with/fabricating physical evidence, cruelty to animals and sexual intercourse with an animal."
"In the days before her children’s deaths, Snyder’s gmail account made several online searches that drew investigators interest."
"Google searches on her account showed a search on a website that described an effective way to hang someone with using a simple suspension, the affidavit said."
{end}
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5.
a Murder
{quote}
"Brooklyn Center police officer Kim Potter shot 20-year-old Daunte Wright in the chest during a Sunday traffic stop while she was training other officers."
{end}
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6.
Mothers kill their son's.
{quote}
"Haefs told detectives that the victim was her biological child and admitted to killing him."
{end}
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7.
The female counter part of Derek Chauvin.
{Quote}
"Dallas County jury had sufficient evidence to convict Amber Guyger of murder in the 2018 shooting of Botham Jean."
{End}
Notice how - the public made riot's and outraged only when the perpetrator/killer was a male cop and not a female co.
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8:
{quote]
"A 33-year-old woman who is suspected of driving the car which struck and killed Senior Constable David Masters on Saturday morning."
[End]
another woman helped in making the situation worse for a man
{names of both perpetrator's}
Skye Anne Wallis & Kari O’Brien
{end}
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9:
{QuoTe}
"Trinh Nguyen, 38, was charged with three counts of attempted criminal homicide and one count of possession of an instrument of crime. She was accused of shooting her two sons and trying to shoot her neighbour before fleeing in a white minivan on Monday morning."
{ENd}
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The crime of 'rape' it has been commited by multiple women.
1:
2:
Their are alot of other incident's but i wanna use my time for something besides that.
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Mistreatment of babies.
1:
2:
Even daughter's are targetted by the mothers of society.
[Start]
"A 20-year-old Mississippi woman has been charged with capital murder after her eight-week-old daughter died over the weekend."
[Finish]

3: I think that this one (link) also speak's for itself.

I have not read the last one (below) but it is a bonus.
It has to do with a indian female, meaning that it must be a world wide issue. Not exclusive to the western world.
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Truth:
Though this is also not the case with all or most women, but the problem is that society never holds a bad female/women accountable for her crime/action.
I will not update this post at all in the future. But i choose to finally make this one so hope fully people wont think "the woman is always right/correct"
This is the same type of biased favoritism people in india grant Hanuman.

Friday, June 17, 2022

Story of trigart army.

My attempt at making at keeping track of whatever the clan of trigartas did. They were better fighters than namard hanuman, laxman, parshuram etc. So they deserve more respect and attention.
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1st - Vana Parva is when they get a early mention.
2nd - After that it's Virat Parva where they're given importance.
3rd - Bhishma Parva
4th - Drona Parva
5th - Karna Parva
6th - Shalya Parva
7th - Ashwamedh Parva
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Before Kurukshetra.
Possibility of their being 2 kings at once.
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"The king of Trigartas, bow in hand descending from his great chariot, killed the four steeds of yudhisthir with his mace. But Kunti's son, king Yudhishthira the just, seeing the foe approach so near, and fighting on foot, pierced his breast with a crescent-shaped arrow. And that hero, thus wounded in the breast began to vomit blood, and fell down upon the ground besides Pritha's son."
[]
Comment - his name is not mentioned, the question is whether he died or just fell down on the floor? After all the trigart king was on a way to a marriage ceremony so his armor wouldnt be very durable here as he is not prepared for a violent/warlike situation. So his death is extremely likely.

The other monarch.
[Quote]
"Suratha, the king of Trigartas, well-versed in elephant-charges, approaching the front of Nakula's chariot, caused it to be dragged by the elephant he rode."
[eNd]
Susarman's reign;
"The mighty king of the Trigartas, Susarman, who owned innumerable cars, regarding the opportunity to be a favourable one."
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1st day:
"And against Susarman, that mighty car-warrior and tiger among men, Chekitana of great prowess, rushed in exceeding wrath for the sake of the Pandavas. And Susarman also, O great king, in that encounter checked the advance of that mighty car-warrior Chekitana with plentiful shower of arrows. And Chekitana also, greatly provoked, showered on Susarman, in that terrible conflict, a shower of arrows like a mighty mass of clouds showering rain on the mountain breast."
[eNd]

2nd day.
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"Somadatta, and Susarman, and Sudakshina, the ruler of the Kamvojas and Satayus, and Srutayus, were on the right flank. And Aswatthaman, and Kripa, and Kritavarman of Satwata's race, with a very large division of the troops, were, stationed at the rear of the army."
[]
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3rd Day.
Head of garood vyuha;
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"Those renowned warriors, Aswatthaman and Kripa, supported by the Trigartas, the Matsyas, the Kekayas, and the Vatadhanas, were in its head."
[]
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Day 4.
[quote]
"Trigartas and the Madras, with the Kekayas, numbering five and twenty thousand urged by thy son, all of whom were foremost of men accomplished in the science of arms and who were incapable of defeat by foes in battle, surrounded Kiritin with his son for slaying them both."
[eNd]
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dAy 5:
"The heroic Nakula capable of wringing tears from the foe, engaged in battle with the excellent car-warriors of the Trigartas."
[enD]
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day 6
"Susarman the king of Prasthala, accompanied by his own troops, stood, accoutred in mail, in the left wing."
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7th day;
[quote]
"Then Arjuna, having vanquished those kings headed by Susarman along with all their followers, in the midst of their division, proceeded towards his tent."
[end]
https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m06/m06087.htm
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11th night OR 12th morning:
[quote]
"Satyaratha, Satyavarman, and Satyavrata and Satyeshu, and Satyakarman also, having spoken similarly, those five brothers together, with ten thousand cars, came, O king, (before Duryodhana), having taken that oath on the field of battle. And the Malavas, and the Tundikeras with thousand chariots and the tiger among men, Susarman, the ruler of Prasthala, with the Mavellakas, the Lalithas, and the Madrakas, accompanied by ten thousand cars and his brothers, and with another ten thousand cars from diverse realms came forward for taking the oath."
[enD]
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12th day.
[Quote]
The son of Pandu then, in that battle, with a broad-headed arrow, cut off the leathern fence of Suvahu, and covered Sudharman and Sudhanwan, and Suvahu pierced Partha with ten arrows. Partha, having the excellent ape-device on his banner, pierced all of them in return with many arrows, and also cut off, with some broad-headed shafts, their standards made of gold. And cutting off the bow of Sudhanwan, he slew with his arrows the latter's steeds. And then he cut off from his trunk the latter's head graced with turban. Upon the fall of that hero, his followers were terrified."
[eNd]
Comment susarman lost at minimum one family member (sudhanwan)

[Quote]
Susarman with his brothers, followed him behind, desirous of battle. The ever-victorious Arjuna then addressed Krishna, saying "O thou of unfading glory, this Susarman here, with his brothers, challengeth me to battle! O slayer of foes, our army, again, is broken by Drona towards the north."
[End]
Logic; this indicates that Susarman had atleast 2 brother's that survived the massacre so far.

2 brothers (or even more than that) died;
"Then Arjuna pierced Susarman with seven shafts, and cut off both his bow and standard with a couple of sharp arrows. He then, with six arrows, quickly despatched the brothers of Trigarta king to Yama's abode."
[END]
After Bhagadatta died the day was not over, Arjun continued his duel with Trigarta dynasty.
{quoTe}
"Alas, how would Indra's son (Arjuna) be able to rescue us from the foe, when that mighty warrior is engaged on the southern part of the field in slaughtering the remnant of the Samsaptakas and the Narayana force?"
{eNd}

He used some divine astra to get rid of them;
"Meanwhile, Jishnu, having vanquished large number of Samsaptakas, quickly came to that place where Drona was grinding the Pandava troops. Having crossed many large lakes whose waters were constituted by blood, and whose fierce billows and eddies were constituted by shafts, and having slain the Samsaptakas, Phalguni showed himself there. Possessed of great fame and endued as he was with the energy of the Sun himself, Arjuna's emblem, his banner bearing the ape, was beheld by us to blaze with splendour. Having dried up the Samsaptaka ocean by means of weapons that constituted his rays, the son of Pandu then blasted the Kurus also."
[enD]
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13th day.
The only thing the trigarts were successful in (besides living on) was taking Arjuna extremely far from the main battlefield. None of their major warriors and royalty died this day.
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14th day.
It is a mystery on what Susarman did during this battle. But other trigarts did fight, they just were lower in terms of heirarchy in the royal family.
Chedi king slew Trigart prince.
Quote;
Bending with his hands, O Bharata, that dart of fierce energy towards the car of Viradhanwan, Dhrishtaketu hurled it carefully and with great force. Struck with great p. 216 force by that hero-slaying dart, and his heart pierced by it through, Viradhanwan, quickly fell down on the earth from his car. Upon the fall of that hero, that mighty car-warrior among the Trigartas, thy army, O lord, was broken by the Pandavas.
[End]

Niramitra was compared to rakshas adi pati Khara;
[quoTe]
"Thereupon, prince Niramitra, the son of the ruler of the Trigartas, fell down from his car, afflicting thy army with great grief. Slaying him, the mighty-armed Sahadeva looked resplendent like Rama, the son of Dasaratha, after slaying the mighty (Rakshasa) Khara. Beholding that mighty warrior prince Niramitra slain, loud cries of Oh and Alas arose, O monarch, among the Trigarta warriors. Nakula, O king, in a moment vanquished thy son Vikarna of large eyes."
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14th night.
Quote:
"thy son then urged forward placing them at the van, the remnant of the brave and mighty Trigarta car-warriors."
[End.]
15th day.
Maybe they rested i come to this conclusion because they were absent until drona died.
[Quote]
"Accompanied by his elephants and horses and cars, and surrounded also by foot-soldiers, thy son, the mighty car-warrior, Duryodhana, too, fled away, O king, taking with him the remnant of the Samsaptakas whom Arjuna had not yet slaughtered. Susarman, O king, fled away, beholding Drona slain."
[End]
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16th day.
[quote]
"Dhananjaya rushed against the angry throngs of the samsaptakasIn that slaughter of great heroes, Dhrishtadyumna proceeded against Kripa. The invincible Shikhandi closed with Kritavarma."
[end]

Next incident;
"Arjuna once more pierced with his fierce shafts, the samsaptakas with their steeds, drivers, cars, elephants, standards and foot-soldiers. Every one of those that stood there as spectators, every one of those that were stationed there on foot or car or steed or elephant, regarded himself as shrouded by the arrows of Arjuna. Shot from Gandiva, those winged arrows of diverse forms slew in that battle elephants and steeds and men whether stationed in his immediate front or at the distance of two miles."

Susarman still had many brothers alive:
[Quote]
"the king of the Trigartas surrounded by his brothers and by his sons that were all mighty bowmen accomplished in diverse weapons, suddenly advanced, shooting and scattering showers of shafts in that battle, against Arjuna"
[End]
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Who arjun kills on day 16.
Quote:
"Thus pierced in that encounter by many, Arjuna pierced all those kings in return. Indeed, piercing the son of Susruta with seven arrows, he pierced Satyasena with three, Satrunjaya with twenty and Candradeva with eight, Mitradeva with a hundred, Srutasena with three, Mitravarman with nine, and Susharma with eight. Then slaying king Satrunjaya with a number of arrows whetted on stone, he smote off from his trunk, the head, decked with headgear, of Susruta's son. Without any delay he then, with a number of other shafts, despatched Candradeva to the abode of Yama. As regards the other mighty car-warriors vigorously contending with him, he checked each of them with five arrows."
"Having thus cut off Satyasena's head, he then despatched Citravarman with a number of keen shafts, and then the latter's driver, O sire, with a keen calf-toothed arrow. Filled with rage, the mighty Partha then, with hundreds of shafts, felled the samsaptakas in hundreds and thousands."

All were Kshatriya's who commanded several elephants and chariots. They were all well trained men from trigarta.

Susruta wielded a Lance which he attacked krishna with tossing it. This lance pierced right through the lords left arm causing him so much pain that he dropped the reins to arjuns horse.
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18TH DAY
Quote:
"Arjuna, that slayer of large bands of foes, rushed with great speed against that great bowman Kritavarma and the Samsaptakas."
[End]
[Quote]
"Then the ape-bannered son of Pandu, O king, having slaughtered the Samsaptakas in battle, rushed against that portion of the Kaurava army."
[enD]

"Arjuna, in that battle, pierced with many arrows by the son of Drona as also by the latter's followers, the heroic and mighty car-warriors among the Trigartas, pierced Drona's son in return with three shafts, and each of the other warriors with two."

"Then, O monarch, that warrior, invincible in battle, the son of Drona, well-equipped with armour and weapons, and supported by the Samsaptakas, fought with Arjuna."

[Quote]
"Kunti's son, Dhananjaya, otherwise called Partha, putting forth his prowess, cut off the heads of many brave combatants on horse-back. Indeed, Partha, with many arrows, destroyed that (cavalry) division. Having felled all the steeds, he then proceeded against the cars of the Trigartas. At this, the great car-warriors of the Trigartas, uniting together, covered Arjuna and Vasudeva with showers of shafts. Assailing Satyakarman with a razor-headed arrow, the son of Pandu, possessed of great fame, cut off his adversary's car-shafts. With another razor-headed arrow, O lord, whetted on stone, that celebrated hero, smiling the while, cut off his antagonist's head adorned with bright gold."
"He next attacked Satyeshu in the sight of all the warriors, like a hungry lion, O king, in the forest, attacking a deer. Having slain him, Partha pierced Susarman with three arrows and then slew all those car-warriors adorned with ornaments of gold. He then proceeded against Susarman the ruler of Prashthala with great speed, vomiting the virulent poison of his wrath cherished for many long years. Covering him first, O bull of Bharata's race, with a hundred arrows, Arjuna then slew all the steeds of that bowman."
"Fixing then on his bowstring a mighty arrow that resembled the rod of Yama, Partha, smiling the while, quickly sped it at Susarman, aiming it at him. Sped by that bowman blazing with wrath, that arrow, reaching Susarman, pierced through his heart in that battle. Deprived of life, O monarch, Susarman fell down on the Earth, gladdening all the Pandavas and paining all thy warriors. Having slain Susarman in that battle, Partha then, with his shafts, despatched the five and thirty sons of that king, all of whom were great car-warriors, to Yama's abode. Slaying next all the followers of Susarman with his keen arrows, the mighty car-warrior, Arjuna, proceeded against the remnant of the Bharata host."
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Basically - 38 people (Satyeshu, Satyakarman, Susarman & his 35 son's).

As per Puranas the Trigart brahmin-priest who lived in the abode of the king of Trigarta was named "Garga" or "Seshiryan" he had left the trigart nation before Kamsa imprisoned Krishna's parents (yet another incident that occured only in purans not in Mahabharat).
Shesiryan was the real biological father of Kalyavan. So Kalyavan was a trigarta by blood from the brahmin caste not a Mlecch and Yavana.
Bur this guy is not mentioned in mahabharat.
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List of king's they had.
Suratha is king during Vana Parv.

Susarman was king on day 12.

Suryavarman after kurukshetra's war.
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POST WAR CHAPTER.
[1st beginning]
"A battle took place between the diadem-decked (Arjuna) and the sons and grandsons of the Trigartas whose hostility the Pandavas has incurred before and all of whom were well-known as mighty car-warriors. Having learnt that that foremost of steeds, which was intended for the sacrifice, had come to their realm, these heroes, casing themselves in mail, surrounded Arjuna. Mounted on their cars, drawn by excellent and well-decked horses, and with quivers on their backs, they surrounded that horse, O king, and endeavoured to capture it. The diadem-decked Arjuna, reflecting on that endeavour of theirs, forbade those heroes, with conciliatory speeches, O chastiser of foes. Disregarding Arjuna's message, they assailed him with their shafts."
[1st END]

[2ND START]
The diadem-decked Arjuna resisted those warriors who were under the sway of darkness and passion. Jishnu, addressed them smilingly "Desist, ye unrighteous ones. Life is a benefit, that should not be thrown away." At the time of his setting out, he had been earnestly ordered by king Yudhishthira the just, not to slay those Kshatriyas whose kinsmen had been slain before on the field of Kurukshetra. Recollecting these commands of king Yudhishthira the just who was endued with great intelligence, Arjuna asked the Trigartas to forbear. But they disregarded Arjuna's injunction. Then Arjuna vanquished Suryavarman, the king of the Trigartas, in battle, by shooting countless shafts at him and laughed in scorn. The Trigarta warriors, however, filling the ten points with the clatter of their cars and car-wheels, rushed towards Dhananjaya.
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"Then Suryavarman, displaying his great lightness of hand, pierced Dhananjaya with hundreds of straight arrows, O monarch. The other great bowmen who followed the king and who were all desirous of compassing the destruction of Dhananjaya, shot showers of arrows on him. With countless shafts shot from his own bow-siring, the son of Pandu, O king, cut off those clouds of arrows; upon which they fell down. Endued with great energy, Ketuvarman, the younger brother of Suryavarman, and possessed of youthful vigour, fought, for the sake of his brother, against Pandu's son possessed of great fame. Beholding Ketuvarman approaching towards him for battle Vibhatsu, that slayer of hostile heroes, slew him with many sharp-pointed arrows."
"Upon Ketuvarman's fall, the mighty car-warrior Dhritavarman, rushing on his car towards Arjuna, showered a perfect downpour of arrows on him. Beholding that lightness of hand displayed by the youth Dhritavarman, Gudakesa of mighty energy and great prowess became highly gratified with him. The son of Indra could not see when the young warrior took out his arrows and when he placed them on his bow-string aiming at him. He only saw showers of arrows in the air. For a brief space of time, Arjuna gladdened his enemy and mentally admired his heroism and skill. The Kuru hero, smiling the while, fought with that youth who resembled an angry snake. The mighty armed Dhananjaya, glad as he was in beholding the valour of Dhritavarman, did not take his life."
"While, however, Partha of immeasurable energy fought mildly with him without wishing to take his life, Dhritavarman shot a blazing arrow at him. Deeply pierced in the hand by that arrow, Vijaya became stupefied and his bow Gandiva fell down on the Earth from his relaxed grasp. The form of that bow, O king, when it fell from the grasp of Arjuna, resembled, O Bharata, that of the bow of Indra (that is seen in the welkin after a shower). When that great and celestial bow fell down, O monarch, Dhritavarman laughed loudly in battle. At this, Jishnu, excited with rage, wiped the blood from his hand and once more taking up his bow, showered a perfect downpour of arrows. Then a loud and confused noise arose, filling the welkin and touching the very heavens as it were, from diverse creatures who applauded that feat of Dhananjaya. Beholding Jishnu inflamed with rage and looking like Yama himself as he appears at the end of the Yuga, the Trigarta warriors hastily surrounded him, rushing from their posts and desirous of rescuing Dhritavarman. Seeing himself surrounded by his foes, Arjuna became more angry than before. He then quickly despatched eight and ten of their foremost warriors with many shafts of hard iron that resembled the arrows of the great Indra himself."
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LAST PART.
The Trigarta warriors then began to fly. Seeing them retreat, Dhananjaya, with great speed, shot many shafts at them that resembled wrathful snakes of virulent poison, and laughed aloud. The mighty car-warriors of the Trigartas, with dispirited hearts, fled in all directions, exceedingly afflicted by Dhananjaya with his arrows. They then addressed that tiger among men, that slayer of the Samsaptaka host (on the field of Kurukshetra), saying "We are your slaves. We yield to thee. Do thou command us, O Partha. Lo, we wait here as the most docile of thy servants. O delighter of the Kurus, we shall execute all thy commands." Hearing these words expressive of their submission, Dhananjaya, said unto them "Do ye, O kings, save your lives, and accept my dominion."
Logic - this indicates that their was a practice of having multiple kings on the same throne in prasthala [trigart capital] at the same time. Like their was a government called "co rulership" where 2 kings can be one 1 throne at the same occasion.

NOTE:
I did not study their presence on the 17th day in this post, neither did i elaborate on the 13th enough.