Let me just adress a few misconceptions about the Pasupatastra weapon among the Mahabharata debaters. I will debunk and prove them wrong over here. Some comedians have spread countless false claims.
- Misconception number 1 - The Pasupatastra was used to kill Jayadratha.
- According to the facts Jayadratha was slain by a weapon Arjuna obtained from Indra not Shiva, so unless you wanna make a claim like Indra had Pasupata then your points of Jayadratha being slain by Shiva's Pasupata are moot, Arjuna did not use Pasupata he used a Indrastra.
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Analysis: Read this post further and you will find a description of the Pasupata having one thousand eyes, and arms, it is nothing like the weapon used for the death of Jayadrath.
Analysis: Read this post further and you will find a description of the Pasupata having one thousand eyes, and arms, it is nothing like the weapon used for the death of Jayadrath.- Misconception number 2 - Karna also had the Pasupatastra
- Arguments by Karna fans
- Some quote from section 60 where Krishna mentions the weapon Pasupata in the same line that he mentions Karna's name.
Quote:
Yonder Karna urges forward the mighty car-warriors of the Dhartarashtras towards the son of Pritha with the weapons called Sthunakarna, Indrasjaha and Pasupata, and with clubs and other weapons.
- Krishna was talking about Arjuna's weapons not Karna's.
- Those weapons have always been associated with Arjuna.
Quote:
As a blazing fire consumeth a forest in the hot season, so, exhibiting diverse courses, I will hurl those great weapons called Sthur-karna, Pasupata, and Brahma, and all those that Sakra gave me, all of which are endued with fierce impetuosity.
Karna claims Arjuna had these weapons.
Quote:
The weapons called Aindra, Pasupata, Brahma, and Sthunakarna, applied by Arjuna, will, O Madhava, be the mantras (of that sacrifice).
- Karna would not use such a dangerous weapon in the vicinity of Duryodhana, Duhsasana (who was still alive), and himself (he cared about his own life alot thus his constant nature of fleeing the battlefield).
The danger of the Pasupata:
But, O son of Pritha, this weapon should not be hurled without adequate cause; for if hurled at any foe of little might it may destroy the whole universe. In the three worlds with all their mobile and immobile creatures, there is none who is incapable of being slain by this weapon.
Analysis: Such a weapon with the potential of destroying the whole universe would not be shot by the sinless danveer karna. Second of all this weapon (the one karna used) did not even kill anyone when it was used by Karna, so how could it be the same Pasupata? No it is clearly a different Pasupata.
- A quote from karna Parva that says Karna got all the weapons of Parshuram, who got them all from shiva.
- Debunk
- That quote was just Duryodhana's opinion. It need not be true as the same Duryodhana always contradicts himself.
- The term "all" is usually exaggerated in the Mahabharata.
- Misconception number 3 - Drona had the Pasupatastra
- Quotes used to prove that he had it
- Drona got all the weapons of Parshurama
Quote:
Drona about this time heard that (the great Brahmana hero) Rama (on the eve of his retiring into the weeds) was resolved to give away all his wealth. Hearing this, the son of Bharadwaja repaired unto Rama who was about to retire into the woods and addressing him, said, 'O best of Brahmanas, know me to be Drona who hath come to thee to obtain thy wealth.' Rama replied, saying, 'I have given away everything. All that I now have is this body of mine and my weapons. O Brahmana, thou mayest ask of me one of these two, either my body or my weapons.' Then Drona said, 'It behoveth thee, sir, to give me all thy weapons together with (the mysteries of) their use and withdrawal.'
Analysis: This quote is cherry picked, and is used by people who believe their readers won't read all the content in the source they linked, so it is very easy to get them confused. Regardless their is no evidence that Parshuram even had the Pasupata.
- Drona used a weapon called "Pasupata" in Drona Parva on the 15th day.
Quote:
When Drona failed to gain any ascendency over the son of Pandu, the son of Bharadwaja, that warrior acquainted with the course of all weapons, invoked into existence the Aindra, the Pasupata, the Tvashtra, the Vayavya, and the Yamya weapons. As soon as those weapons, issued from Drona's bow, Dhananjaya destroyed them quickly. When his weapons were thus duly destroyed by Arjuna with his own weapons, Drona shrouded the son of Pandu with the mightiest of celestial weapons.
Analysis: Their is a huge problem with this because this quote states that their were even mightier weapons than the Pasupata, but that is not logical because it contradicts what Shiva said to Arjuna and what was stated in Anusasana Parva. Not only that but Arjuna destroyed this weapon of Drona with ease despite it being combined with other like Tvashtrastra, Vayavyastra, Aindrastra, Yamyastra etc. So then why would Shiva state that the Pasupatastra is capable of nuetralizing every other weapon including Narayanastra & Brahmastra?
- Debunking these quotes
- For the first quote:
Quote from the same section:
"The Brahmana continued, 'Then Rama of Bhrigu's race, saying, 'So be it,' gave all his weapons unto Drona, who obtaining them regarded himself as crowned with success. Drona obtaining from Rama the most exalted of all weapons, called the Brahma weapon, became exceedingly glad and acquired a decided superiority over all men.
Analysis: Clearly Drona only got one weapon the Brahmastra, or he just got weapons of lord Brahma from Parshuram. The quote may say all his weapons but it only describes one weapon and that is the Brahmastra.
More over whenever Drona teaches Arjuna weapons he only talks about weapons he had himself, he learned from his father Bharadwaja or weapons that he acquired from the rishi Agnivesha. He never ocne mentions Parshuram during the entire description of training of Kuru princes.
- For the second we have to do logical analysis.
- Here is the description of the Pasupata by Shiva
Quote:
Bhava replied, 'O powerful one. I will give to thee that favourite weapon of mine called the Pasuputa. O son of Pandu, thou art capable of holding, hurling, and withdrawing it. Neither the chief himself of the gods, nor Yama, nor the king of the Yakshas, nor Varuna, nor Vayu, knoweth it. How could men know anything of it? But, O son of Pritha, this weapon should not be hurled without adequate cause; for if hurled at any foe of little might it may destroy the whole universe. In the three worlds with all their mobile and immobile creatures, there is none who is incapable of being slain by this weapon.
Analysis: Now ask yourselves, does this weapon look anything like the weapon that Drona used on Arjuna? No. Would Drona use a weapon that was capable of destroying the whole universe in a war where his own men/troops were also fighting? No. If no one was capable of surviving agaisnt this weapon, then how did Arjuna survive? IF YOU BELIEVE THAT DRONA USED THE PASUPATA THEN YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT ARJUNA DESTROYED DRONA'S PASUPATA. The Pasupata was also stated to be able to kill Vishnu and Brahma, so is Arjuna better than Brahma & Vishnu now? Could Drona use his pasupata and kill them?
- Misconception number 4 - Raudrastra and Pasupatastra are the same weapons.
- No they are not Pasupatastra & Rudrastra are entirely different, Raudrastra is a minimized version, it is a poor man's Pasupata.
- Description of Raudrastra
Quote:
I fixed that mighty weapon which, celebrated under the name of Raudra, is the destroyer of all foes. Then I beheld a male person having three heads, nine eyes, three faces, and six arms. And his hair was flaming like fire or the sun. And, O slayer of foes, for his dress, he had mighty serpents, putting out their tongues. And saying, O best of the Bharatas, the dreadful and eternal Raudra, I being free from fear, set it on the Gandiva; and, bowing unto the three-eyed Sarva of immeasurable energy, let go (the weapon), with the object of vanquishing those foremost of the Danavas, O Bharata.
Analysis: 3 Heads, 9 Eyes, 3 Faces & 6 Arms. Their are some similarities between the Pasupata and the Raudra weapons but it's obvious that Pasupata is one up of Raudra, it is over a hundred times deadlier than the Raudrastra. If it had 3 heads than Pasupata was decribed to have a 1000 heads, this shows the vast difference between them.
- Description of Pasupata
Quote:
Verily, that shaft was the excellent Pasupata that mighty and terrible weapon, which is without a second, indescribable for its power, and capable of striking every creature with fear. Of vast proportions, it seemed to constantly vomit sparks of fire. Possessed of one foot, of large teeth, and a thousand heads and thousand Stomachs, it has a thousand arms, a thousand tongues, and a thousand eyes. Indeed, it seemed to continually vomit fire. O thou of mighty arms, that weapon is superior to the Brahma, the Narayana, the Aindra, the Agneya, and the Varuna weapons. Verily, it is capable of neutralising every other weapon in the universe.
Analysis: 1000 Heads, 1000 Eyes, 1000 Stomachs, 1000 Tongues & 1000 Arms. This weapon does not look anything like the one Karna shot.
Shiva was called Pasupati (he was named after the pasupata).
Quote:
"And they said, The festival of Pasupati (Siva) hath commenced in the town of Varanavata."
Analysis: This is evidence of Shiva's second name, so therefore many of his weapons would have the name of "Pasupat" in them.
Over here shiva is called Pasupati again.
Quote:
The weapons appertaining to Agni, Varuna, Soma, Vayu, and Vishnu, as also those appertaining to Indra, Pasupati, and Paramesthi, and those of Prajapati, Dhatri, Tashtri, Savitri, and Vivaswat, all these are known to Dhananjaya alone in this world of men!
Source: http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m06/m06123.htm
Misconception number 5 - "Rama countered the Pasupata in Ramayana's Yuddha kanda" LOL Shri Ram never countered such a weapon.
Here is the quote provided by some fans:
Debunking the claim of this being pasupata:
The sanskrit (that gets translated into English thus the = sign) says that it is Rudra not Shiva. Rudra is not Shiva, Rudra & Shiva are different beings.
over here "The Rudras" is mentioned separately from "Shiva his vichakra,39" so they're not the same person. And the weapon itself was described as a spike, that is the weapon Makaraksha used a SPIKE clearly not the Pasupata of Shiva.
Misconception number 5 - "Rama countered the Pasupata in Ramayana's Yuddha kanda" LOL Shri Ram never countered such a weapon.
Here is the quote provided by some fans:
दुरवापं महच्छूलं रुद्रदत्तं भयंकरम् | जाज्वल्यमानमाकाशे संहारास्त्रमिवापरम् || ६-७९-३२ यं दृष्ट्वा देवताः सर्वा भयार्ता विद्रुता दिशः | 32. mahat shuulam = (He took) that great spike; yam dR^iShTvaa = by seeing which; sarvaaH devataaH = all the godheads; bhayaartaaH = were afflicted with fear; vidrutaah = and fled; dishaH = to different directions; duravaapam = which was difficult to be obtained; rudradattam = which was gifted by Rudra; one of the eight forms of Shiva the lord of dissolution; bhayamkaram = which was terrible; jaajvalyamaanam = which flamed violently; aakaasho = in the sky; aparam samhaaraastram iva = like another weapon of destruction.
That great spike, which was difficult to be obtained, was gifted to him by Rudra, one of the eight forms of Shiva the Lord of Dissolution. That terrible spike, which flamed violently in the sky, looked like another new weapon of destruction of the world. On seeing it, all the godheads were afflicted with fear and fled to different quarters.Source: http://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/yuddha/sarga79/yuddha_79_frame.htm
Debunking the claim of this being pasupata:
The sanskrit (that gets translated into English thus the = sign) says that it is Rudra not Shiva. Rudra is not Shiva, Rudra & Shiva are different beings.
over here "The Rudras" is mentioned separately from "Shiva his vichakra,39" so they're not the same person. And the weapon itself was described as a spike, that is the weapon Makaraksha used a SPIKE clearly not the Pasupata of Shiva.
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