Ramayan - Meghanada is a better warrior than Angad.

Misconception that Angad beat Meghanad in a fight.

Basic - this's a common statement done by people who want to discredit meghanad's power. Some karna fan's also are frustrated so they degrade meghanad too as he was compared to karna by some internet user's.

Another thing is that rambhakts, namards, and gandus often insult Meghanad for this incident. So i will have to provide a proper explanation with detail's now. Though i warn you all readers it could be a little wonky to read this time.

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What Ramayan has to say.

1st Quote:

"The enraged Indrajit struck the valiant Angada (who can tear asunder the enemy forces) with a mace, like Indra the Lord of celestials with his thunder-bolt." "The swift monkey, Angada struck his chariot, having a variegated body of gold, along with horses and the charioteer in the battle."

[End]

http://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/yuddha/sarga43/yuddha_43_frame.htm

2nd quote:

"Angada on his part, who came to annihilate the enemies in that battle-field, struck Indrajit, his charioteer and the horses all at once. While that awful and very intense battle was going on, Indrajit a great trickster, leaving the chariot, with its horses and charioteer killed by Angada, vanished from that very spot itself. All the celestials, both Rama and Lakshmana together with all sages were pleased with that act of the venerable Angada the son of Vali."

"Since all the living beings knew the supernatural powers of Indrajit in battle, they were pleased on seeing that highly gifted demon being defeated by Angada. Seeing the enemy defeated, those monkeys along with Sugreeva and Vibhishana were delighted and praised Angada as an efficient warrior."

http://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/yuddha/sarga44/yuddha_44_frame.htm

Last line:

"Indrajit, on the other hand, then was driven to a very terrible rage, as he was defeated in battle by Angada the son of Vali a dreadful monkey. That Indrajit the son of Ravana, the sinful demon who had gone out of sight and was cruel in battle, rendered himself as invisible again and hurled forth sharp arrows, bright as lightning."

http://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/yuddha/sarga44/yuddha_44_frame.htm

Logic - meghanad was not really defeated & the reason is because Meghanad clearly had not given up, he continued to wage war against his opponent, this time he targetted not only prince Angada but even Ram, Laxman combined.

For a moment spectator's believed that meghanad had been defeated, but they quickly understood that their belief was wrong as he re appeared before them.

Meghanad's powerful actions.

"Being enraged in battle, Indrajit bursted out serpent-like terrible arrows into all the limbs of Rama and Lakshmana who were born in Raghu dynasty. Enveloped by illusion, he sought to confuse Rama and Lakshmana in the struggle there and invisible to all beings through his magic arts, Indrajit the ranger of the night bound those two brothers Rama and Lakshmana with a net work of arrows."

"Then, the monkeys saw the two warriors, those lions among men, being wounded quickly by the serpentine arrows of that enraged demons."

http://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/yuddha/sarga44/yuddha_44_frame.htm

Logic - why couldn't Angada do anything to prevent this unfortunate incident from occuring?

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When Meghanada defeated Angad.

Incident one.

Ram orders many vanar's to go after Meghanad:

[Quote]

That very strong and powerful Rama the son of Dasaratha ordered ten monkey-generals to search for the whereabouts of Indrajit. Rama the scourger of his enemies ordered both the sons of Sushena, Nila the chief of monkeys, Angada the son of Vali, Sharabha, Dvivida, Hanuman, the very strong Sanuprastha, Rishabha and Rishabha skandha. All those monkeys, thrilled with enthusiasm, flung into the air brandishing huge trunks of trees in order to explore the ten regions."

[End]

http://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/yuddha/sarga45/yuddha_45_frame.htm

Logic - 1 among these vanars identified as Angada.

Meghanad defeated all of these people:

[Quote]

"Indrajit, the son of Ravana, who was skilled in the use of magic weapons, by means of his arrows with great speed, released from his most excellent of bows, arrested the impetuous outbreak of the monkeys. Those monkeys of terrific bound, whose bodies were cruelly pierced by those shafts, were unable to see Indrajit in the darkness, as the sun is obscured when veiled in clouds. Indrajit, the victorious in battle."

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http://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/yuddha/sarga45/yuddha_45_frame.htm

Logic - here Valmiki himself mentioned Meghanad as victorious. All of the monkey's had their bodies harmed by arrow attack's.

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2nd time Meghanad had beaten Angad.

[Quote]

"Thereafter, Indrajit the son of Ravana swiftly with his various arrows, struck Gavaksha (the ruler of golangulas) and then Angada the son of Vali too. Indrajit, that strong and highly courageous demons, pierced those jewels among the monkeys there with his arrows which resembled flames of fire and began to shout in triumph. Tormenting them with a multitude of arrows and frightening the monkeys, the mighty armed Indrajit heartily laughed and spoke (as follows)."

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Final line;

"Indrajit, full of joy and victorious in conflict, returned to Lanka, spreading happiness among the demons."

http://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/yuddha/sarga46/yuddha_46_frame.htm

3rd time.

"Indrajit then struck Jambavan with ten arrows and Nila with thirty arrows. He also struck Sugreeva, Rishabha, Angada and Dvivida with sharp and terrific arrows endowed with boons and made them breathless. That enraged Indrajit, then looking like an excited fire that is to destroy the world, tormented other chiefs of monkeys too with many arrows. He harassed the armies of monkeys' fast-moving arrows looking like the sun in their splendour. That enthusiastic Indrajit, with a great pleasure, saw that exclusive army of monkeys, drenched in blood and tormented by a multitude of arrows."

http://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/yuddha/sarga73/yuddha_73_frame.htm

Explanation - after this many irrelevant lines are stated, u can check the chapter link for them, i excluded them from this post only because i did not want to make it excessivelly lengthy, it would be too long.

Relevant text:

"Struck by the Indrajit's arrows, shining brightly as fire, the monkey-commanders then looked like Kimshuka trees bearing crimson flowers. Those excellent monkeys, torn asunder by that chief of demons, approaching at each other and roaring in a discordant tone, fell down on the ground."

http://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/yuddha/sarga73/yuddha_73_frame.htm

Their names are mentioned:

"With lances, spikes and sharp arrows, charged with sacred texts, Indrajit the excellent demon struck all those foremost of monkeys, namely Hanuman, Sugreeva, Angada, Gandhamadana, Jambavan, Sushena, Vegadarshina, Mainda, Dvivida, Nila, Gavaksha, Gavaya, Kesari, Hariloma, Vidyuddamshtra, Suryanana, Jyothimukha, a monkey called Dadhimukha, Pavakaksha, Nala as also a monkey named Kumuda."

http://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/yuddha/sarga73/yuddha_73_frame.htm

What Shri Rama himself stated:

"Let this chief of demons, who is surpassing all, be covered with a multitude of showers of arrows."

http://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/yuddha/sarga73/yuddha_73_frame.htm

Logic - he claims that Meghanad surpassed all of them, including Ram, laxman, hanutati, sugreev etc. Also angad was left behind by Meghanads power too.

CONCLUSION - Angad with 20 other vanar warriors (and crores that were killed) was clearly defeated by Indrajit Meghanada.

4th incident.

[Quote]

"Vibhishana and Hanuma saw Sugreeva, Angada, Nila, Sharabha, Gandhamadana, Gavaksha, Sushena, Vegadarshi, Mainda, Nala, Jyotimukha and a monkey called Dvivida, who were struck down on the battle-field."

[End]

http://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/yuddha/sarga74/yuddha_74_frame.htm

Logic - angada is beaten like the typical gandu.

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What Mahabharat has to say.

Quote;

"Then the handsome Angada, the son of Vali, taking up a large tree, rushed impetuously at Indrajit and struck him with it on the head. Undaunted at this, Indrajit of mighty energy sought to smite Angada with a lance. Just at that juncture, however, Lakshmana cut into pieces the lance taken up by Ravana's son. The son of Ravana then took up a mace and struck on the left flank that foremost of monkeys, the heroic Angada who was then staying close beside him."

"Angada, the powerful son of Vali, little recking that stroke, hurled at Indrajit a mighty Sal stem. And hurled in wrath by Angada for the destruction of Indrajit, that tree, O son of Pritha, destroyed Indrajit's chariot along with his horses and charioteer. And thereupon jumping from his horseless and driverless car, the son of Ravana disappeared from sight, O king, by aid of his powers of illusion. And beholding that Rakshasa, abundantly endued with powers of illusion, disappear so suddenly, Rama  proceeded towards that spot and began to protect his troops with care. Indrajit, however, with arrows, obtained as boons from the gods, began to pierce both Rama and mighty Lakshmana in every part of their bodies."

https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03286.htm

Laxman intervened in Meghanad's only fight with Angad.

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A little about Meghanad's weaponry.

Besides defeating Ram, Indra etc he had a whole book of other combat feats.

1] Brahmashir Astra

[speech of Vibhishan]

"By his penance, Indrajit obtained a weapon called Brahmashira, by way of a gift from Brahma and also horses, which are coursing at his will."

[word's of Ram]

"That Indrajit is skilled in the use of the mystic missile presided over by Brahma. He is intelligent. He is a master of several conjuring tricks. He is so mighty that he can render unconscious in battle even the gods along with Varuna the king of gods."

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Agney Astra

"Indrajit employed a missile presided over by Agni the god of fire which was blazing."

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Rudra Astra

"Indrajit too discharged a missile presided over by Rudra (the god of destruction) in battle."

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Asur Astra

"Blazing weapon similar to a hammer duly hidden, darts, fire arms, maces, swords and axes rushed forth. Seeing that terrible missile, which was very harsh, unrestrainable for all beings and which can tear all weapons in battle, the brilliant Lakshmana obstructed that missile by using Maheswarastra."

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Accolade and praise.

1 - Ram admit's his inability to fight with Meghanada.

[Quote]

"While he drifts in the sky, ascending his chariot, his movement is not known to others, as the sun is not seen beneath a dense mass of clouds."

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Seeta claimed Ram always tell's the truth:

"My husband is evermore a renderer but not a recipient, and forever he speaks truth, and not the untruth, least of all. Oh, Brahman, this is the unalterable and unsurpassable vow of Rama."

[End]

http://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/aranya/sarga47/aranya_47_frame.htm

2 - What Valmiki himself has to say.

[quoTe]

"Coming close to Hanuma, that unconquerable Indrajit hurled swords, sharp-edged spears and axes on the head of Hanuma."

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http://valmikiramayan.pcriot.com/utf8/yuddha/sarga86/yuddha_86_frame.htm

Note: here valmiki adressed Meghanad as unconquerable, no one can defeat him.

He did it again over here:

"Lakshmana spoke to that Indrajit, the scion of Sage Paulastya, who had never been conquered before."

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3 - Vibeeshan admit's the truth for once.

[Quote]

"That Indrajit, as such along with his army, is reported to have reached Nikumbhila. If he comes forth after completing his sacrificial act, know that all of us as killed."

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https://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/yuddha/sarga85/yuddha_85_frame.htm

Note: he mentioned that all of them including "Rama" "Hanutati" would be slain.

4th -

Officer's claimed the prince was invinicible.

[Quote]

"Your valiant son, who was unbeatable in combats and that hero who conquered Indra the lord of celestials, having collided with valiant Lakshmana, has been killed. Having tormented Lakshmana with his arrows, Indrajit departed to the highest world."

[End]

https://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/yuddha/sarga92/yuddha_92_frame.htm

5th - The plan of Shri Ram to do a group attack/ambush on Meghanada. Basically cheating him in warfare by using deceitful tactic's.

[Quote]

"O Lakshmana! You, accompanied by that entire army which stands at the disposal of Sugreeva, along with troop-commanders with Hanuma as their head; and protected by Jambavan the lord of bears, who will be accompanied by his army, kill that Indrajit the prince of demons, rich in the power of conjuring tricks. The great souled Vibhishana, who knows all the conjuring tricks of Indrajit, along with his counsellors, will follow behind you."

[skip irrelevant and unimportant lines]

"Having obtained the blessings from his brother, the glorious Lakshmana, the prince, quickly sallied forth along with Vibhishana. Then, Hanuma accompanied by many a thousand of monkeys and Vibhishana along with his counsellors went behind Lakshmana. That Lakshmana, quickly surrounded by a large army of monkeys, saw the army of Jambavan also stationed in the way."

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https://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/yuddha/sarga85/yuddha_85_frame.htm

Logic - not just hanutati, jambavan & mighty king Sugreev but even Vibeeshan along with 4 lankan minister's (the son's of Mali perhaps) came to assist and aid Laxman aunty against Meghanadji.

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Meghanad confirms his victory against laxman, hanutati and all vanars;

"Earlier on that day, in a nocturnal battle, both of you along with Sugreeva and other followers, were made unconscious by my arrows which were like thunderbolts and tips of missiles as also you were made to fall down on the floor."

http://valmikiramayan.pcriot.com/utf8/yuddha/sarga88/yuddha_88_frame.htm

Note; hanutati was speechless and helpless & failed to talk back, as he knew the bitter truth about his own weakness and laxman aunty's defeat.

People also didn't think highly of angad aunty as no one barked back to meghanad by mentioning angada's combat feat.

Proof that Angad was also their standing mutely like a typical gandu (similar to the rajpoots that gave away their daughter's to Moghul warrior's);

"The valiant Lakshmana stood there along with Vibhishana, the heroic Angada and Hanuma, the son of wind-god."

https://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/yuddha/sarga85/yuddha_85_frame.htm

Logical question - he was clearly present their so why didn't angad talk of his victory when Meghanad bragged?

Answer - chutiya angad never mentioned it because it either never happened or the victory in itself was a plan/trick of Meghanad to catch all of them off gaurd because this technique worked so well that he was able to defeat Ram, Laxman, Sugriva & 20 vanar commander's combined.

Another answer - It is likely that it's not considered a defeat based on the amount of times everyone praised Meghanad to the sky. And the fact is that Meghanad actually proved them right by defeating ram, laxman dozens of times.

I dont blame any tv serial for excluding the incident where angad slew a driver of meghanad.