Sunday, June 25, 2023

Why Starplus Mahabharat is bad (part 4).

Prelude - I know that this tv series began and ended a long time ago. But at the same time its existence sparks debate, arguments & dispute's all the time. So it needs to be addressed called out & exposed as being one of the shows that suck's and did not do any real justice to it's source material and audience.
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33rd episode;
Automatically when Vidur, the pandava's & Kunti enter Hastinapore then Vidur tells Kunti "their are one hundred children opposed to your five children" not only is Yuyutsu missing but Vidur appeared to say this to criminalize the sons of Dhritrashtra before they even meet the Pandava's so not only do the pandavas but even Kunti has a bad impression of the 100 kids, when they have yet to meet or harm the pandava brother's.

Their was a annoying flashback with stupid music completely unnecessary, then a meeting Kunti had with Karna, as if Karna somehow felt like he had a blood connection to the pandavas already. Which is another unnecessary scene. For some dumb reason multiple other citizens of Hastinapore not just karna touched her feet.

A wrestler from Magadh came to Hastinapore accompanying the pandava's which made no sense as in a earlier episode it's mentioned that Magadh is a enemy state to Hastinapore.
It's like starplus deliberately makes inconsistencies.
The wrestlers of Magadh claim to be servant's of Bhishma as they follow his order's, but it makes no sense for them to not be servants of Jarasandha instead, so bhishma should have never been their boss.

Another thing Yudhisthir tells Nakul/Sahadev to touch the feet of Duhsasan but that made no sense as Duhsasan did not introduce himself, he said a insult but he did not mention his own name at all so it makes no sense for Yudhisthir to know his name when this's the first moment he met him.
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34th episode;
The introduction of Purochan, why it's a problem lies in the actor who is playing his role, as this actors face is changed, basically he is replaced.
{the original purochan}
When Sakuni had a private conversation with child Duryodhan (or teenager whatever u call the 15 year old with facial hair) then he said that Bhishma is his uncle. We all should realise that this's another mistake, cause bhishma was duryodhan's grand uncle (uncle to father) not his uncle so star plus made themselves look stupid again. The jokes, gaali's, insult's & roasts used by the kourav brother's (whose leader when duryodhan is not around is duhsasanh) are extremely lame and low tier.

They said "you cant eat without permission" to the pandavs then "these forest dwellers dont even know the manners and etiquette of living in a royal mansion" after that "this happens whenever you live with forest dweller's" it makes no sense for anyone to think those words are funny, it would have been better if they came up with a real insult.

The hooded figure (Duryodhanbeing able to recognize bheem and the kourav's by their voices does not make any sense as their are 99 kouravas (excluding Suyodhan) so he should not have been able to recognize a person based on their voice unless it was an important person like Duhsasan.

Since that hooded person was Duryodhan then it still made no sense cause he has only ever heard the voices of three pandavas not all five of them. And why Sahadev who can see the future in this tv serial is not able to warn the pandavas that they will be disrespected by their uncle's children made no sense, he should have alerted them earlier.
By the way....Sugadha is still in the show but her children do not exist for some unknown reason & now she's becoming friends with Kunti. And the introduction of Duhsalaa proves the gender bias that the screen writer's have, they have no issue with making each kourava a hater of the pandavs, but just cause Duhsala is a female the writers decided to make her's a positive character that has no hatred at all, very disgusting double standard of the writing team.

When Vidur talked to the prince's at the dining table then he made a mistake, he mentioned two names "dushalan" "shraman" but if you read Mahabharat, or just this post which has their names, then no prince had those two names at all.
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35th episode:
Not much for me to label an error. Besides the obsession that they have with food, and the fact Bhishma still looks too young to be 2 generation's older than Dhritrashtra. Also a important mistake is that Sakuni was supposed to be kicked out of hastinapore in the same episode that Bhishma tore the dice in. He should've been sent back to Gandhar (his home-state) but instead we see he's still in Hastinapore.
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36th episode:
In the 3 minute mark of the episode when the kouravas encircled the pandav brother's their should be at least 98 of them, unfortunately their are only 18 instead.
{count it yourself}
Sakuni still being in hastinapore despite Bhishma's warning in the tv series, it seems like now they are trying to follow Adi Parva of Kmg Mahabharat instead, as Sakuni was their in the chapter where Bheem was poisoned, but as per the show itself this is indeed a mistake.

During the 10 minute mark Kunti said "in 15 year's so much changed in Hastinapore" but it makes no sense cause Arjuna (who is younger to Duryodhan/Bheem) is 15 or maybe Nakul/Sahadev were 15 (as their births were shown before the fifteen year time skip) so if anything Kunti should have said either 16 years OR 17 years (cause that is the last time she was in Hastinapore before leaving with Pandu).
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37th episode.
Here Drona looks older than Bhishma as he had gray hair, i assume this's due to the bias people have against Drona (mahabharat fans are angry that drona was better than namard's like parshuram, hanuman, bhishma, karna etc).
Yet Bhishma himself had nothing besides black hair in the same episode. Drona is supposed to be younger than Bhishma.

Mother Kunti told the pandavas in this same tv serial to always stick together yet instead of doing that Bheem decided to get led astray by Duryodhan, he got separated from the herd. And more importantly during the 18 minute 40 second mark of this episode, Bheem said to Duryodhan "you are my ANOOJ you eat first" Anooj mean's younger brother so this's even worse as Bheem was supposed to be the same age instead of older than Duryodhan.

Also Duryodhan as a child had facial hair, bheem in his childhood as a mota lacked any facial hair. Duryodhan also second's later mentioned that Bheem is older than himself..
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38th episode;
It's mentioned that Drona would become the guru of the kuru prince's but in Mahabharat the book the story is different compared to the TV series. Their it's stated that the first mentor was Kripa right after the poisoning incident of Bheem at PramanaKoti then the next tutor became Drona. The time the kuru prince's spent studying under Kripa was actually very little, their main teacher was Drona only.

Other mistake - The place where Kunti was doing her worship to a phallus/lingam is clearly the same region where Krishna (saurabh gay jain) talk's to the audience directly informing them of things that seem to be wise but are not in actuality.
But it is clearly obvious that is the same region so the writers need to correct this instead of letting a mistake like this just slide.

Another very big error.
This one has to do with age, all viewer's can see the time slot's, how did Kripa gain a couple strand's of white/grey hair in less than 3 minutes?

Mistake is this, what the ganga river appears to look like below.
First of all it is the ganga river because Sakuni told Duryodhan to throw Bheem their (as then he would go to heaven after death & the magnitude of the crime/sin/adharma/paap will decrease). So it has to be it (ganga/gange's).
Now i'd also like to mention that in the 1500's (A.D.) Babur the moghul emperor said that ganga's river is clean, better than nectar itself, he never mentioned that it was green, dirty or impure. This Mahabharat story in Adi Parva takes place before Babur invaded northern india, so theirs no excuse for ganga to look so disgusting compared to back then.
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39th episode:
The scene of Bheem disguised in a hoodie, covering his face etc is not only akin to the TV serials (saas bahu crap drama) that show female characters and males covering their faces with a piece of cloth (like Ashok's mother from "Chakravartin Ashoka Samrat" a 2015 tv series) but it is also a direct copy of a earlier scene involving Duryodhan refusing to grant bheem the permission to eat food (in episode 34).
So this problem is basically a lack of any originality, completely copying from it self. If the writers of star bharat desired to copy anything then they should've copied from Kmg Mahabharat or Bori Ce mahabharat or even sarala das/kashidasi mahabharat.

And another problem would be this.
You may not get it but this's what Yudhisthir looked like before he turned into an adult as per this TV serial.
Then he becomes (this) instead.
Would it not make more sense if that photo of the teenager yudhisthir was a young shaheer sheikh? He also had the same clothing (white robes/golden ornament's).
But instead Shaheer is playing the role of Arjuna (who as a kid in this tv show had smaller eye balls as a child).
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Anyways to continue with episode 39 instead of getting off topic...

The serial writer's made another annoying mistake by having Vasuki tell Bheem that he was told by the wind god to send troop's. And the ancestor of bheem who was a naga is Aryaka, not Vasoo (so what vasuki said isn't correct at all).

Lastly Vasuki mentioned "my soldier's got to know of your strength by meeting you" but a fight is never shown on screen in this episode, so the fans who watch it for action will be displeased, dissatisfied. And according to the tv series he had the drink called "Soma Juice" instead of Rasa Kunda.

Read the content in this link & see for yourself https://sacred-texts.com/hin/m01/m01129.htm the drink's name is "Rasakunda" not "Soma" and also in the tv serial Vasuki said bheem would gain the power of 100 elephants.
But in the book he's supposed to have the power of 10 thousand elephants (he was born naturally with power of 1 thousand elephants before drinking 9 jar's of rasakunda). Finally done with episode thirty nine now onto the finale.
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EPISODE 40:
Here a obvious problem is that Vidura's role is neglected, he was the one who told bheem to choose inaction instead of retaliation against Duryodhan as per the book, another mistake is that in this tv serial we never see how Bhishma, Dhritrashtra & Kunti found out it was Duryodhan who was behind the tragedy that Bheem just had.

It seemed like a conversation happened off-screen between the character's where Duryodhan got exposed as being the one who tried murdering bheem. And then their's a incident where Bhishma bossed king Dhritrashtra around ordering him what to do yet in earlier episodes Bhishma claimed to be a slave with no free will or authority.

Then it's stated by Bhishma "your sons & the pandavas will spend 12 years in the academy of Guru Drona, far from hastinapore"
Issue Their should not be a time skip that is even close to a decade long between the Praman-koti poisoning and the Tournament where the prince's display their power.

Because of this quote;
"On the death of their father the Pandavas came to their own home. And within a short time they became well-versed in archery."
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Comment - it shows and says that a very small period passed in terms of time, i deem this to be a reference to the length of time it took for them to learn under guru Drona. Certainly not twelve years.

SO... IT'S another problem.
And since they made Sakuni the king of Gandhar so early i can easily assume they are choosing to not show Naganjit (the other king of Gandhar) and they wont show Sakuni's father (he participated in Droupadi's Swayamvara).
They also will now exclude other character's (like the younger brothers of Sakuni who fought in the war). Meaning this tv series will refuse to give lesser known characters any importance.

The only thing i liked about this episode is that Bheem said he was stronger than Hanuman, as Hanuman is a overrated gandu.
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22 comments:

  1. If you search for mistakes in star Plus Mahabharata, then entire you should mention each and every episode and dialogue. Such a pathetic serial

    Bro I respect you but you disrespect ing Hanuman is not suitable for you, if you. Hanuman is one of the powerful character of Ramayana

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    1. Even if you do respect me we can never be united at all, that is cause you and other indians and many arjuna fans overrate the coward hanuman.

      Hanuman was never called a god in Ramayan that is a fact. He was never a ansh or portion of Shiva.

      and hanuman was made to bleed due to wooden ropes

      and he was fairly defeated by ravan during yuddh kanda sarga 59

      their is NO DIFFERENCE between the devotees of hanuman & the fans of karna/bhishma

      each of the 3 group's are rabid, disgusting, believe in tv serials and spread misinformation

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    2. the vanaras named Mainda, Dwividha, Rishabha, Angada, Nila, Sandhaman, Vali and Sugreev are more powerful than Hanutati ever was

      even Ravan had a tougher battle against Nila & Sugreev than he did with hanuman

      so you should not overrate hanuman, i know very well that arjuna fans overrate hanuman only to get approval from other hanuman bhakts in hopes that those hanubhakts would support them against karn tards

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    3. And i am still working on part 5 of the star plus mahabharat review.

      You should comment on other former posts i made this year based on that tv show.

      Part 5 will cover maybe 20 episodes of it.

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    4. Hanuman is far above all other Vanaras. It is Hanuman alone who killed Aksha, Jambumali and 80,000 kimkaras. It was Hanuman alone who burned Lanka to the ground. Even Ravana praised Hanuman as superior to all other Vanaras. His speed was compared to the mighty Garuda. He lifted the body of Lakshman which Ravana failed to do.

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    5. The aksha thing has already been explained multiple times that Aksha was a better fighter than hanutati a statement accepted by hanuman himself.

      Ravan praising hanutati is meant to be a joke or an exaggeration if you take his word literally than ram & laxman are eunuchs based on his quotes.

      The kimkaras are featless so dont bring them up. Even the younger brothers of Duryodhan get compared to SHRI RAM by sanjaya in Mahabharat.

      And the body of laxman could have been lifted by Ravan it would've taken more time and concentration even vibeeshan & angad lifted his body.

      So no hanuman is inferior to rishabha, dwividha, vali, sugriva, angad, nila, sandhaman & many other vanaras.

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    6. And u seem to have conveniently ignored how i mentioned the digusting behavior of ignorant, biased hanubhakt's, this is proof that u are not a legit debator, but instead you are a person interested in only hearing your own opinion repeated to u in an echo chamber, so u also spread misinformation and BS to defend hanutati.

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    7. If Aksha was a better fighter, he won't have died. Hanuman is just being generous by praising Aksha.

      Most comparisons in Mahabharata are exaggrations. That's why any random king is compared to Indra in Mahabharata.

      Hanuman was the only one stated to be capable of going to Lanka and comming back safely. Even Angada was only sure of going there and not confident about being able to come back.

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    8. Also it's rich that you are criticising behaviour of others when you constantly insult Hanuman and people who supports him and call them all kinds of names.

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    9. 1 - When u know you are wrong yet u still choose to repeat the same debunked arguments then u behave like an individual that enjoys wasting another persons time on the internet (that person being either ME or any one that REPLIES to you).

      2 - The killer of the enemy IS NOT ALWAYS tougher, think first, Meghanada's killer was Laxman (inferior to him). That battle was analyzed be me already in 2022, and it would be rubbish to claim that the killer here was superior to meghanada.

      3 - Hanuman admitted that Aksha had a special power which INCREASED his strength over time, so if the battle went longer than he would have defeated or killer hanuman, its not praise or a accolade here, instead in sundara kanda it's a fact that Aksha had that power which u ignore due to your bias. So Aksha is the better warrior.

      4 - Random people are compared to Indra in Ramayana too, so the accolades received for character's in Ramayan can be believed as the same EXAGGERATIONS. What matter's is performance.

      5 - You read kishkinda kanda's 65th chapter u will find that Jambavan increased the confidence of Angada telling him he could go to one thousand times the distance that hanutati did (100,000 aka 1 LAC is that much more than the small 100 yojana distance that hanuman travelled).

      Angad claiming he cant find a way back is due to his lack of experience he was young in age and most likely beileved that someone might capture him or he might get lost not being able to find a way back home like hikers get lost in trips to hills.

      6th - Due to how hanuman is constantly overrated by his bhakts, and how people falsely claim he is a god (when in ramayan he was never a god) and since this negative behavior of insulting people has been done more commonly by hanubhakts than ravan fans (i am not a ravan fan) their is no reason that i can be insulted or should be ashamed for abusing or insulting those that support/worship hanumana.

      FINAL - This's a bonus, how about you keep all your points in just ONE COMMENT instead of doing multiple comments.

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    10. 1. Aksha's power is useless against stronger and alert enemies like Hanuman. They will kill him before he gets a chance to grow stronger.

      2.Angada inexperience makes him inferior to an experienced Hanuman.

      3. Hanuman travelled 1000 yojanas to Himalayas and 3000 yojanas to reach the sun. 100 yojanas is an insignificant distance to him. Angada has no feat to back up Jambavati's claim.

      4. Heck, Hanuman can increase his size 100 yojanas if he wants. He already increased it 90 yojanas against Surasa. The pressure from a giant Hanuman's feet even send an entire mountain into the underworld ( Rasatala) as per Sundara Kanda

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    11. 0th - Instead of hiding behind the "anonymous" option how bout u reveal ur actual name and identity? For those that tell the truth or are being genuine/honest do not hide behind fake identities.

      1st - Aksha's power is definitely NOT useless, especially considering the fact he injured hanuman (a character whose highly overrated by biased fan tard's like u). The fact hanuman felt endangered by him is proof enough. He's similar to Broli from DBZ (the 1990s anime movie shows that character).

      2nd - Angad regardless of his experience had better combat feat's than Hanuman he deserves to be called ten times to a hundred times more powerful than Hanuman, but u just dont admit it as u do not want other hanuman bhakts to find out that u admitted that hanuman is weak compared to the majority of the vanaras.

      3rd - You can not provide a single quote to prove your claim of hanutati travelling that many yojanas (3,000 to 1,000) and the person who made the claim was Jambavan NOT jambavati (it is in Kishkinda Kanda Sarga 65).

      4th - hanuman was made to faint and bleed from ordinary wooden ropes in sundara kanda so your BS claim of him increasing his size like that is not true.

      If you do not reveal your name/identity in your next comment i will have to delete your posts due to you being yet another hanu bhakt who wastes time of other individuals.

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    12. Travelling 3000 yojanas -

      "While yet a child, seeing the sun rise, he desired to eat it and took off to a distance of three thousand yojanas (or twenty four thousand miles) reflecting: �I shall seize hold of the sun and my hunger will not be appeased otherwise' and they say, he leapt up (into the air) intoxicated as he was with his own strength."

      https://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/yuddha/sarga28/yuddha_28_frame.htm

      Travelled thousands of yojanas -

      That Hanuman, the great monkey, having crossed thousands of yojanas, walked around that mountain, searching for the heavenly herbs.

      https://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/yuddha/sarga74/yuddha_74_frame.htm

      Increasing height to 90 yojanas -

      Surasa made her mouth eighty yojanas high. The mountain-like Hanuma then became ninety yojanas high.

      http://www.valmikiramayan.net/sundara/sarga1/sundara_1_frame.htm







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    13. So you couldn't even answer the question about your username and real life identity huh?

      1st of all HERE is a Quote to prove that hanuman lacks the super human endurance and stamina u bhakt's have claimed he possesses.

      [START]
      "And having refreshed ourselves therewith and regained our strength, we proceeded along the way shown by her."
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      https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03280.htm
      Explaining - He was clearly tired as to regain something you need to lose it first so clearly Hanutati became a fatigued namard.

      If he could cross a thousand yojanas (one yojana should be at minimum 9 miles) then he should not have gotten so tired easily after a very tiny distance.

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    14. Isn't that quote from Ramopakhyana ? Ramopakhyana is a very different continuity from Valmiki Ramayana. Several story elements are different in both versions. We can't use Ramopakhyana to see how strong Hanuman is in Valmiki Ramayana.

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    15. Also, Hanuman was under a curse until Jambavat reminded him of his powers -

      ‘Since, in the knowledge of your power, 0 Plavamgama, you dost harass us, by the adverse effect of our curse you shalt become unaware of it for a long time, but, when it is remembered by you, you shalt be able to wield it effectively.’

      https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/the-ramayana-of-valmiki/d/doc424802.html

      Most of Hanuman's powers were Supressed until Jambavat reminded him -

      “Thereafter, the knowledge of his powers was taken from him in virtue of the great Rishis’ words and, from that moment, Hanuman ranged the solitudes in a placid mood.

      https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/the-ramayana-of-valmiki/d/doc424802.html

      After remembering his powers, Hanuman crossed the sea without feeling tired at all -

      The glorious Hanuma with the best courage, even though crossing a hundred yojanas, was without a sigh and did not obtain any tiredness.

      http://www.valmikiramayan.net/sundara/sarga2/sundara_2_frame.htm









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    16. 1 - Your comments have unnecessarily long spaces on them that are needlessly extending their length.
      2 - What is your reason for ignoring the question about ur identity/name?
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      3. About Hanuman again.
      Ropes were enough to wound him, he is barely as strong as normal humans.
      {Quote}
      "Hanuma, liberated from the missile being dragged away by the demons and AFFLICTED by the ties of ROPES, could not realize that he was liberated from the missile."
      {Ending}
      http://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/sundara/sarga48/sundara_48_frame.htm
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      4) Hanuman was inferior to Duryodhan in strength.
      "Some of those vanara-s are with the might of ten elephants, some ten times more, and some with vigour matching that of a thousand elephants."
      http://valmikiramayan.pcriot.com/utf8/kish/sarga31/kishkindha_31_frame.htm

      Why Duryodhan is tougher:
      [start] "since my son who was struck down possessed the strength of 10,000 elephants. In manhood's prime and possessed of an adamantine frame, he was not capable of being slain by any creature" [end]
      https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m10/m10001.htm
      Note; as per the 1st quote many vanars in sugriva's kingdom who were regarded as foremost were limited to a mere hundred to one thousand elephant strength, but Suyodhana was on a whole nother level.

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    17. Since you have refused to answer my questions and have denied basic facts (like hanuman having LIMITED strength, being weaker than other's) you have earned the treatment of having your comments deleted.

      Your behavior is proof that hanubhakts are disrespectful, dishonest & disgusting.

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    18. No you are spreading BS and rumor's to vilify me instead.

      1 - i asked for basic courtesy that u reveal your identity/name and if you dont want to reveal your name then you should at least provide a REASON FOR not wanting to reveal your identity. But you refuse to do either like a coward.

      2 - I refuted every claim you made, all of the point's, and you denied them and refused to accept that hanutati has a limit to his strength.

      3 - Even the lower class vanars like Risabha, Kesari & Nala are superior to hanuman, he is nowhere near the strongest, so dont fart here.

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  2. You are one of the biggest thatti. I thought you are genuine and you are saying rope can defeat Hanuman. Hanuman had learnt 8 siddhis which no one knew in Ramayana he could have crushed entire Lanka with his foot by growing large. He also thought to kill Kumbhakaran with increasing in size, but he didn't because of Sugriv. Ravana itself praised Hanuman for his strength and Hanuman nadee him bleed with just his punch.

    And you support Indrajith who is Karna's version of Ramayana. Who was defeated by Angad. Who don't even have guts to fight face to face.

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    1. Nah. It's just that u are either biased or you want to look good infront of the biased hanu tard's.

      Angad vs Indrajith already was analyzed in 2022 by me on this very blog.

      You choose to change the topic like a coward, u know that in sundara kanda the material which was used to bind hanutati was a ROPE made of wooden tree bark.

      Hanutati or hanumana was inferior to Mattanika, Kumbha, foot soldier's, May Danava & many other people. He is too weak like u.

      So i suggest that u continue to study in a fake university of india then you can spend the remainder of your ZINDAGI being a wage slave or wage cuck, or work a low paying job, struggling never being happy etc.

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    2. Even Duryodhan's son Laxman was a better fighter than ram's brother laxman & hanuman himself too.

      And the upa kouravs (sons of other kourav prince's) were better warrior's than hanutati.

      😎

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