Tuesday, May 29, 2018

Arjuna fought Lord Shiva many times according to Mahabharata

{Edited on 9:13 PM March 30th 2024}
Since this post is still getting attention to this very day allow me to make it clear now. I made this post with a desire to create a point that can be used against people that always think BORI CE mahabharat is the most accurate version.
The point is that BORI CE says Shiva was defeated by Arjuna but KMG disagrees. So not a single person has the right to say that BORI was the most authentic version of MB (maha bharata). That was my main reason, the second reason to make this post was to troll/harass fans of karna. Lastly to those that often use FOOT NOTES of bori as an argument to say shiva was not in the khandava daha incident my reply is that means if you consider one footnote to be authentic then you need to acknowledge every other foot note too.
Examples would be like footnotes in BORI also say that karna was dambodbhava in his former life they also mention that bheem defeated karna during sabha parva when the pandavas were sent to collect tributes from various nations. So if a person uses footnotes to say Shiva did not lose or was absent from khandava daha then they also need to admit karna lost to bheem in rajasuya & that karna was dambodbhava in his previous life. If a person does not do that then they should be considered a hypocrite.
{Completed at 9:15 PM March 30th, 2024}
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Let's get this straight and clear, defeating anyone is not impossible. No one is infallible and everyone can be defeated in life. Same for Shiva, he was defeated by Arjuna many times. And i have proof of his defeat from authentic Mahabharata translations.

  • The first defeat of Shiva, during Khandava Daha
    • Shiva along with Indra made a promise to the Nagas that they would protect them as they were friends. Like "Manik" (played by Rajnikanth) and "Anwar" in the hit film "Baasha" (1995).
    • Shiva's condition was described as so bad that he was in fear and actually fled away from the Khandava forest.
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  • The second defeat of Shiva, in the invasion of the himalayas
The roof of the world (Himalayas) were conquered by Arjuna this includes KAILASA parvat.
Quote:
And defeating, O king, the Rishikas in the field of battle, Arjuna took from them as tribute eight horses that were of the colour of the parrot's breast, as also other horses of the hues of the peacock, born in northern and other climes and endued with high speed. At last having conquered all the Himalayas and the Nishkuta mountains, that bull among men, arriving at the White mountains, encamped on its breast."
And Kailasa was the abode of Shiva. He lived in the Himalayas, the mountain of Kailasha was a part of the Himalayan region during Arjuna's era.
Even Dhritarashtra said that Arjuna defeated eight (8) forms of Shiva.
Quote:
I have heard, O king, how Arjuna hath gratified in battle by means of his bow the god of gods--Sthanu of eleven forms. The illustrious lord of all the gods--Kapardin himself--desirous of testing Phalguna, fought with him, having assumed the guise of a Kirata. And there it was that the Lokapala, in order to give away their weapons unto that bull of the Kuru race, showed themselves unto him of undeteriorating prowess. What other man on earth, except Phalguna, would strive to have a sight of these gods in their own forms? And, O king, who is there that will weaken in battle Arjuna, who could not be weakened by Maheswara himself possessed of eight forms?
Analysis: Over here a anti-arjuna character (Dhritarashtra) stated that 8 (eight) ans-has of Mahadeva (Shiva) failed to win a fight against Arjuna. It is also stated very clearly in English that Arjuna was using his bow, this means it is not an incident of Kirata Parva. Dhritarashtra must be talking about either a fifth defeat or one of the defeats that Shiva suffered against Arjuna during the Digvijay Parva when Arjuna was still in Indraprastha. Either way its a defeat of Shiva.
Source:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03049.htm
  • The third defeat of Shiva, at the digvijay Parva
Shiva was a citizen of Kuvera's territory [text from bori critical edition]:
‘Yudhishthira said, “O lord! O supremely eloquent one! From what you have described, it is as if the entire world of kings is in Vaivasvata’s sabha. O illustrious one! You have said that all the serpents, the lords of the daityas, the rivers and the oceans are in Varuna’s sabha. And that the yakshas, guhyakas, rakshasas, gandharvas, apsaras and Shiva166 are in that of the lord of riches.167
Analysis: the lord of riches is clearly Kuvera meaning that he was the king of Shiva. He was a part of Kuvera's "Sabha". So Arjuna could not have conquered Kuvera's kingdom without defeating Shiva first.
Source: Sabha Parva section 11 "236(11)"
    • And here is when Arjuna conquered Kuvera's kingdom (the Guhyakas).
Quote:
The son of the chastiser of Paka used his army and determination to conquer the region known as Hataka, protected by Guhyaka. Having won them over with conciliation, he set his eyes on the supreme Laka Manasa.
Analysis:
Over here Arjuna defeated him through conciliation, and mediating the conflict instead of actually using his strength and force. But the text also clearly states that Arjuna used his army and determination to conquer that region.
Source: Sabha Parva Section 25
  • Kiratarjuna - most famous incident
During the Kirata Parva, most people believe the fight between Shiva & Arjuna was a stalemate/no conclusion. But the truth is that Arjuna also won this fight.
Prior knowledge, Arjuna was hungry and starving, he was partaking fasts for the past four months straight before this fight occurred, so Arjuna was not healthy, he was not at his peak, he was not at his prime, he was not at his full strength when he fought Shiva, yet he still somehow manages to beat him.
Quote:
Clad in rags made of grass and furnished with a black deerskin and a stick, he commenced to eat withered leaves fallen upon the ground. And he passed the first month, by eating fruits at the interval of three nights; and the second by eating at the interval of the six nights; and the third by eating at the interval of a fortnight. When the fourth month came, that best of the Bharatas--the strong-armed son of Pandu--began to subsist on air alone.
Analysis: This means that for one hundred twenty days (120) Arjuna kept fasting. While Shiva never did so.

    • Arjuna dragged lord Shiva:
The illustrious Arjuna then, taking up his bow and dragging the Kirata with his bow-string, struck him some fierce blows that descended like thunderbolts.
Analysis:
He dragged the god of gods himself with ease over here. That too just by using the string of his bow. The attacks of Arjuna were compared to Indra's vajra.
    • Clashing sword with Shiva
Quote:
Arjuna took up his sword, and wishing to end the conflict, rushed at his foe. And then the Kuru prince, with the whole might of his arms, struck that sharp weapon upon the head of the Kirata, a weapon that was incapable of being resisted even by solid rocks. But that first of swords, at touch of the Kirata's crown, broke into pieces. Phalguna then commenced the conflict with trees and stones. The illustrious god in the form of the huge-bodied Kirata, however, bore that shower of trees and rocks with patience.
Analysis: Imagine a completely drained Karna, injured, wounded, starving, would he ever have been able to pull off such a good performance against Shiva?
    • Arjuna was throwing punches with Shiva.
Quote:
The mighty son of Pritha then, his mouth smoking with wrath, struck the invincible god in the form of a Kirata, with hi clenched fists, blows that descended like thunderbolts. The god in the Kirata form returned Phalguna's blows with fierce blows resembling the thunderbolts of Indra. And in consequence of that conflict of blows between the son of Pandu and the Kirata, there arose in that place loud and frightful sounds. That terrible conflict of blows, resembling the conflict of yore between Vritra and Vasava, lasted but for a moment. The mighty Jishnu clasping the Kirata began to press him with his breast, but the Kirata, possessed of great strength pressed the insensible son of Pandu with force. And in consequence of the pressure of their arms and of their breasts, their bodies began to emit smoke like charcoal in fire.
Analysis: Arjuna and Shiva both performed equally well over here. Their fight was compared to Indra's with Vritra's. Shiva punched Arjuna many times yet Arjuna still fought back.

    • Proof that Shiva cheated during this fight.
Quote:
Even this Gandiva is that bow, O son of Pritha, fit for thy hands. O foremost of male beings, I snatched it from thee, helped by my powers of illusion. This couple of quivers, fit for thee, will again be inexhaustible, O son of Pritha! And, O son of the Kuru race, thy body will be free from pain and disease. Thy prowess is incapable of being baffled.
Analysis: So even Shiva could fight with Arjuna only by cheating and theft and deception. He himself admitted it. People always call Indrajit Meghnath (the son of Ravana) to be a cheater who relied on illusions, magic tricks and tamsi maya etc, but never call out Shiva for his cheating with Arjuna!

  • Later references by Krishna claim this to be a victory of Arjuna and a defeat of Shiva.
Quote:
‘He is regarded as the supreme one among gods and humans. He is the wielder of Gandiva, the one with the white horses. The supreme of apes sits astride his standard. He is Jishnu. He defeated and satisfied Shankara, the one with the blue throat and Uma’s consort, the god who is the lord of the gods, himself in a duel.20 There is no other man on earth whom I love as much.
Analysis: Shankara is another name of Shiva, and Krishna claims that Arjuna had defeated him in a duel. Arjuna's superiority was confirmed by krishna himself.
Source: Souptika Parva section 12 - Bori Critical Edition
Screenshot [Krishna to Asvathamma]
So now as you can all read even Bori Mahabharata accepts the fact that Arjuna defeated Shiva. Don't mistake me to be a Vishnu bhakt, i am a firm believer that the shiva bhakt known as "Mandara" defeated lord Vishnu. I don't like Vishnu and i never did. For me Nara, Narayana, Krishna, Rama, Parasurama, Bhargava, Vishnu etc are all different people, they are not the same person. I am not playing favoritism.

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  1. Shiva created both Brahma and Vishnu (as mentioned in the Mahabharata below).

    “योऽसृजद्दक्षिणादङ्गाद्ब्रह्माणां लोकसम्भवम् ।
    वामपार्श्वात्तथा विष्णुं लोकरक्षार्थमीश्वरः ॥ MBH १३-४५-३३५
    “(O Lord Shiva) Thou art he that hadst created from thy right side the Grandsire Brahma, the Creator of all things. Thou art he that hadst created from thy left side Vishnu for protecting the Creation”.
    AND ARJUNA DEFEATED SHIVA
    It all makes sense now.
    1. Arjuna
    2. Shiva
    3. Brahma and Vishnu

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    1. Means any thing.Why you not apply your brain and common sense at all.There is different meaning of Shiva .Like many astr of Lord Shiva said to Pashupati.ok
      Mahadev toyed Arjun.ok
      And 2nd thing to he told is Shiv created Vishnu and Brahma is mentioned in Shiva Puran.Bhagwad Geeta which os the part if Mahabharat says different thing.
      Ok . Dont blindly follow any character.☺Be good human first

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    2. u do realize that shiva trained arjuna and his guru right? it emans the student surpassed the master
      arjuna > shiva > karna > sugriv > hanuman > bheeshma > parshuram > weak Kshatriyas

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    3. i am anonymous and i believe hindus gods were eunuchs, i like allahs big dick and lund in my ass

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  2. You seem to be a Siva-hater - twisting words to make your hate points. You should have better things to do. If Siva "loses" it means nothing to him - a father may play-fight with his son and let him "win".

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    1. even though i said Shiva is BETTER THAN VISHNU

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    2. No.You even not have a sense of Shiva's power

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    3. arjuna is the student of shiva and would do a nirbhaya to karnas mother radha

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    4. Atharva Walia - It looks like Arjuna took care of your Greater Grand-Mother during his high times. Thats why you are so fan of your Greater Grand-Daddy - Arjuna.
      It doesn’t mean Arjuna knocked your Greater Grand-Mommy, then Arjuna is that Mighty. Lord Shiva is Lord of Lords. Lord Shiva is Supreme Param Purusha, Param Brahman.
      You don’t have that brains due to some abnormalities in your DNA or maybe Raksha knocked your Great Grand Mothers that why your abusing Lord Shiva & other Devtas.
      But seems like admire Arjuna - Greater Grand-Daddy so much.
      Lord Shiva is Mahakaal, Maharudra, Almighty, Sovereign, Formless & also takes form, Starting of everything, end of all, Auspicious one, Nothingness, is everywhere & nowhere, Immeasurable, Infinite, Infinite Light & Infinite Darkness, Beyond Supreme and Above all. Lord Shiva is beyond your understanding, mysterious and beyond everything.
      Lord Shiva is Mahakaal, could destroy many Universes in less than blink of eye.
      So (Atharva Walia), it doesn’t matter you admire your Greater Grand Daddy - Arjuna so much and because of Abnormalities, has Danav family blood thats why hate Supreme Reality - Lord Shiva so much. Its not going to change reality, Lord Shiva is Lord of all Lords. Moreover, Lord Shiva is lord of all 3 worlds, Lord of Devtas, Asuras, Animals, Lord Shiva is Aadi, Anant , Unborn, Self Originated, Maharudra and even Lord of that God your Ancestors & your family pray all ghe time. Even Lord of ypur Greater Grand Daddy (Arjuna) and your Greater Grand-Mommy played by Arjuna.
      1st read Mahabharata, it was told by Shree Krishna, Vedvyasa & Arjuna that for many occasions Lord Shiva was killing Kaurvas. Whenever it was getting hard for Arjuna that time Lord Shiva was battling in front of Arjuna but nobody was able to see him. Arjuna himself admitted when he was talking to Ved Vyasa and also admitted that in front of Shree Krishna after war.
      Even Shree Krishna himself told that Lord Shiva was there in battlefield during Mahabharata war, whenever it was getting harder for Arjuna, Lord Shiva appeared & destroyed many Maharathi’s of Kaurvas.
      Moreover, Shree Krishna even told Arjuna that Viratroop of Param Brahman Arjuna saw was none other than Mahadeva - Lord Shiva, Shree Krishna was meditating on Lord Shiva.
      And Lord Shiva was speaker of Gita.
      Shree Krishna even told Arjuna that he is Narayana, he himself got blessed by Lord Shiva thats why he is worshipped and also got Sudarshan Chakra as boon from Lord Shiva after doing very hard penance of Lord Shiva for 60thousand years and then Narayana was ready to give away one of eye when he wasn’t able to find last (1000th-Kamal) Flower then Lord Shiva blessed Narayana, as a blessing got Sudarshan Chakra from Lord Shiva.
      Shree Krishna even told Arjuna that he himself (Lord Vishnu) & Lord Brahma wasn’t able to find Lord Shiva’s starting & ending point when at very beginning at Eternal Adobe after both of them were arguing on Superiority, Lord Shiva appeared as Jyotilingham - Pillar of Fire. Then they were told to find either starting or ending point, whoever could find it soon would be superior, that time Narayana truly admitted that nobody could find starting ot ending point of Lord Shiva, but Lord Brahma lied thats why as a punishment of lying Lord Brahma is not worshipped rather then Yagya or Penance for getting boon only. And Lord Shiva blessed Lord Vishnu thats why Lord Vishnu is worshipped, was blessed by Lord Shiva that Narayana & his all avatars incarnations would be worshipped just as Lord Shiva.
      Shree Krishna thats why he is worshipped and got Sudarshan Chakra for protection of Universe, to kill evil Asuras & evil.

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  3. Well the author apparently mis translated the words of original mahabharat text... actually Arjuna didn't defeat shiva , he fought with shiva and satisfied him.which makes him worthy of Pashupat astra.

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    1. for people like u vyasa and vaishampayan are wrong while a kutta like hanuman who is a big eunuch that lost to sugreev in a fair battle is right

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    2. aryan sharma is a PAAJEET 😂😂😂😂 fan of karna

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    3. OH MAN COMMON
      MEANS THOSE PERSON WHO GIVES RIGHT PROOFS AND MISTAKELY ARJUNA WAS BRUTALY BEATED OF LOSS CHALLENGE IN TERMS OF YOUR PERSEPECTION THOSE PERSON IS KARNA FANS😏
      LET ME TELL YOU I AM PERSHURAAM FAN

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    4. some posts are meant to be jokes but most of the posts on this blog are SERIOUS, GENUINE AND AUTHENTIC

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    5. So - Atharva Walia, Its just arrogance, but remember Lord Shiva is Lord of destruction also. Lord Shiva destroys Arrogance, ego, Evil, darkness, demons and could kill any celestial cosmic immortal being like destroyed Kamdeva & Kaal into ashes by fire from his 3rd eye. That’s why it’s stated in Vedas, that nobody could Maharudra (Lord Shiva), nobody is mightier than Lord Shiva and Lord Shiva is Almighty, only Immortal being. Thats why in Vedas, only Lord Shiva is referred as Param Brahman, Param Purusha, Param Ishwara, Maheshwara, Bhagwan.
      Their are lots of people acting just like Daksha, Lord Shiva even punished Lord Brahma & his son Daksha Prajapati. Nobody no mighty power, not even Lord Vishnu himself was able to save Daksha Prajapati from wrath of Lord Shiva. Remember Daksha Prajapati was killed by Veer Bhadhra, who originated from one jata of Lord Shiva and Veer Bhadhra alone punished all Devtas, Daksha Prajapati, Kaal, Brahma, Narayana and many others.
      So you - Atharva Walia is just a tiny Pigshit, you are just abusing Almighty Supreme Reality ( LORD SHIVA), you are again & again doing biggest sin by admiring your Greater Grand Father - Arjuna. Most importantly, Arjuna himself did very long & hard penance of Lord Shiva, was begging Maha-Pashupatastra from Lord Shiva.
      Their is no one in all Universes, who could stand Lord Shiva, even everyone stand one 1-side, still Lord Shiva could eat everything & everyone in less than blink of eye and when their would be time of destruction (Pralay) Lord Shiva is going to destroy Universe in less than second.
      Its clearly stated in Vedas, Greater than the great is Brahma, Greater than Great Brahma is Vishnu and Greater than Great Vishnu is Isha (Lord Shiva).
      Moreover, in Vedas its also mentioned that Lord Brahma’s lifespan is equal to 4 inhaling of Lord Vishnu and Lord Vishnu’s lifespan is equal to 4 inhaling of Shree Rudram (Lord Shiva), only Lord Shiva (Maharudra) is Immortal. Lord Shiva never takes birth and never dies, Lord Shiva is only Immortal being, Aadi, Ananta, Unborn, Self Originated and beyond Supreme.

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  4. Udyoga Parva: "he who gratified by combat that God of gods, the trident-bearing lord of Uma--Mahadeva himself having the mountains for his abode; that foremost of warriors who subjugated all the kings of the earth--with that Vijaya (as their ally) the Pandavas will encounter you in battle"

    Udyoga Parva: Sanat-sujata Parva: Section L

    Karna Parva: "Single-handed, he contended in battle with Mahadeva who stood before him in the guise of a hunter."

    Karna Parva: Section 31

    Karna Parva: "'Possessed of greatness of soul, he gratified Mahadeva himself in fair fight, and obtained from him the terrible and mighty weapon Pasupata that is capable of destroying the three worlds." Karna Parva: Section 79

    Karna Parva: "That patience with which thou didst gratified the illustrious deity Mahadeva in the guise of a hunter, summoning that patience once again, O hero, slay the Suta's son with all his followers." Karna Parva: Section 89

    Vana Parva: "I have heard, O king, how Arjuna hath gratified in battle by means of his bow the god of gods--Sthanu of eleven forms. The illustrious lord of all the gods--Kapardin himself--desirous of testing Phalguna, fought with him, having assumed the guise of a Kirata." Vana Parva: Indralokagamana Parva: Section XLIX

    Vana Parva: "And, O king, who is there that will weaken in battle Arjuna, who could not be weakened by Maheswara himself possessed of eight forms?" Vana Parva: Indralokagamana Parva: Section XLIX

    Karna Parva: "Thou receivedst the touch of the arms of Sthanu himself. How, then, O diadem-decked Arjuna, could the Suta's son pierce thee first with ten long shafts such as are used by car-warriors?" Karna Parva: Section 89

    Drona Parva: "It is heard that lord Maheswara himself of supreme energy had been encountered, before this, by Partha on foot, on the mountains of Himvat!" Drona Parva: Abhimanyu-badha Parva: Section LXXV

    Karna Parva: "What man save Arjuna who is endued with prowess that is equal to the prowess of the chief of the celestials, could on the occasion of the dispute caused by the slaughter of an animal, summon Bhava the Lord of Lords, the Creator of the worlds, to battle?" Karna Parva: Section 37

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  5. Are you insane ? Lord Siva is the Supreme Param Brahman of the Vedas and the Upanisadas. He has neither beginning nor end and is beyond Time and Space and you are saying Arjuna who is an ordinary human being subject to life and death defeated Him!Then listen, the scripture say only a single strand of Lord Siva's hair out of His matted lock viz. Lord Veerbhadra stood undefeated even in battle against Lord Vishnu and you are saying Arjuna defeated Lord Siva and that too many times!!! Stop this nonsense. Read scriptures and not cock-and-bull stories interpolated in our sacred texts. The Siva you found in the Khandava Daha Parva of the MBH is the Siva with Vichakra, not the Supreme Lord Siva with Trident. The Sthanu of 11 forms are the off-spring of Lord Siva and not He Himself. The Siva in the Digvijaya Parva of the MBH is citizen of Kuvera's territory and you thought he was the Supreme Lord Siva!!! Bravo on your understanding!!!You said Arjuna was on fasting for 120 days while appearing in battle against the Kirata ( an embodiment of Lord Siva) in the Kirata Parva of the MBH. Do you think the result would have been otherwise if Arjuna did not fast? If you think so, then i have to say that Arjuna kept fasting but did not appear in the battlefield consuming any poison. But our Benevolent Lord Siva not only consumed but also kept in His throat the 'Halahala' poison of the entire Universe and appeared against Arjuna in that state. Needless to say that you must understand that a single drop of that poison would surely have reduced Arjuna to ashes and you think Arjuna defeated Lord Siva!!! Bravo again!!! Finally you must understand Lord Siva is the Almighty God. The Vedas say NONE can defeat Him. Also He is the source of life and energy of every being and Arjuna became Arjuna only by the blessing of Lord Siva. That Arjuna stood undefeated against all Kuru Warriors and defeated them only because Lord Siva scripted so because everything happens by His wish only. Otherwise, far from fighting he can neither raise a finger nor live for a single moment but by the grace of Lord Siva and He is source of life and energy of all.

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    1. Shiva is stronger than Vishnu and Indra combined but inferior to their fused incarnation (Arjuna), shiva himself trained Arjuna as a fighter and lost to him.

      Satyaki the student of Arjuna defeated Shiva'a avatar Ashwathama.

      I already know that Shiva's avatar Durvasa is stronger than Vishnu's avatar Krishna and that is because Vishnu was a little bitch but Arjuna is the one who defeated all the tridevs.

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    3. Means anything.Read Bhagwad Gita,you will know everything.Durvasa was just a anshavatar while Krishna is purn .Ok If you don't believe him supreme god.
      Seems like you only like devil such as coward Megnnath

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    4. Shiva used illusions like MEghanad they both are cheaters.

      Durvasa was no ansh he was a full avatar that beat up krishnas wife rukmini and raped her

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    5. and you cant call meghanad a coward when he kicked hanumans ass

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  6. Now let me shatter your misconception as to what you think Lord Siva's defeat :
    As for the first defeat : The screenshot page reveals one Siva with ‘Vichakra’ and the Rudras getting defeated by the two Achyutas viz. Arjuna and Krishna. Here, it may be noted that the Rudras were defeated who being 11 in number are the off-spring of Lord Siva. Among them one is Siva by name and it is he who was present here in the defeated troop. Otherwise, the Drona Parva of the MBH (Book 7 , Chapter CCII) says that:

    “None can venture to stay before the warrior that hath Maheswara walking before him. There is no being in the three worlds that is equal to him.” (The Mahabharata, Book 7: Drona Parva: Drona-vadha Parva: Section CCII

    So, if Lord Siva was present among the Gods, the two Achyutas (Arjuna and Krishan) could never stand before Him. Also, it can be noticed that the Siva mentioned here is with ‘Vichakra’ Therefore, he is not that Lord Siva, the Almighty who is always with his Trident. Yet, if one argues saying that this ‘Vichakra’ is one of the weapons of Lord Siva, then i would like to say that even in that case Lord Siva took the matter very lightly and did not use His best weapons: the Trident, Pasupata, Pinaki Bow or Sudarshana Chakra. Otherwise who can dare stand before Him for a moment when He comes down in the battlefield holding His trident ? And Lord Siva never flees from battlefield as the Vedas confirm. Since the words of the Vedas can never be wrong, this story can never be true.

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    1. Karna fans say that karna defeated krishna and won dwaraka, ive never seen you talk to them about that.

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    2. So - Atharva Walia, Its just arrogance, but remember Lord Shiva is Lord of destruction also. Lord Shiva destroys Arrogance, ego, Evil, darkness, demons and could kill any celestial cosmic immortal being like destroyed Kamdeva & Kaal into ashes by fire from his 3rd eye. That’s why it’s stated in Vedas, that nobody could Maharudra (Lord Shiva), nobody is mightier than Lord Shiva and Lord Shiva is Almighty, only Immortal being. Thats why in Vedas, only Lord Shiva is referred as Param Brahman, Param Purusha, Param Ishwara, Maheshwara, Bhagwan.
      Their are lots of people acting just like Daksha, Lord Shiva even punished Lord Brahma & his son Daksha Prajapati. Nobody no mighty power, not even Lord Vishnu himself was able to save Daksha Prajapati from wrath of Lord Shiva. Remember Daksha Prajapati was killed by Veer Bhadhra, who originated from one jata of Lord Shiva and Veer Bhadhra alone punished all Devtas, Daksha Prajapati, Kaal, Brahma, Narayana and many others.
      So you - Atharva Walia is just a tiny Pigshit, you are just abusing Almighty Supreme Reality ( LORD SHIVA), you are again & again doing biggest sin by admiring your Greater Grand Father - Arjuna. Most importantly, Arjuna himself did very long & hard penance of Lord Shiva, was begging Maha-Pashupatastra from Lord Shiva.
      Their is no one in all Universes, who could stand Lord Shiva, even everyone stand one 1-side, still Lord Shiva could eat everything & everyone in less than blink of eye and when their would be time of destruction (Pralay) Lord Shiva is going to destroy Universe in less than second.
      Its clearly stated in Vedas, Greater than the great is Brahma, Greater than Great Brahma is Vishnu and Greater than Great Vishnu is Isha (Lord Shiva).
      Moreover, in Vedas its also mentioned that Lord Brahma’s lifespan is equal to 4 inhaling of Lord Vishnu and Lord Vishnu’s lifespan is equal to 4 inhaling of Shree Rudram (Lord Shiva), only Lord Shiva (Maharudra) is Immortal. Lord Shiva never takes birth and never dies, Lord Shiva is only Immortal being, Aadi, Ananta, Unborn, Self Originated and beyond Supreme.

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  7. As for the second defeat: Your analysis is incorrect. You said'And Kailasa was the abode of Shiva. He lived in the Himalayas, the mountain of Kailasha was a part of the Himalayan region during Arjuna's era.'
    But you have miserably failed to understand that Lord Siva is NOT the king of an ordinary kingdom in the Himalayan region. He is the Lord of the Universe. He may live in the Kailasha but His above in the Kailasha is in the subtlest spiritual realm, not the gross mundane kingdom. Also, it is not that He lives only in the Kailasha. He lives everywhere. And that Kailasha has never been scaled by any ordinary mortal (like Arjuna) till date. Read the Mahaprasthanika Parva:Book 17, Section 2 of the MBH. You will see Arjuna had miserably failed to scale Mt. Meru. Therefore, if Arjuna won the all the worldly kingdoms of the Himalayas, rest assured, he could not even reach the Supreme abode of the Kailsha where Lord Siva.
    Also you cited Dhirashtra's quote :'I have heard, O king, how Arjuna hath gratified in battle by means of his bow the god of gods--Sthanu of eleven forms. Note here the 11 forms of Sthanu are the 11 Rudras who are the off-spring of Lord Siva and not He Himself. Also you said in your analysis 'It is also stated very clearly in English that Arjuna was using his bow, this means it is not an incident of Kirata Parva. Dhritarashtra must be talking about either a fifth defeat or one of the defeats that Shiva suffered against Arjuna during the Digvijay Parva when Arjuna was still in Indraprastha. Either way its a defeat of Shiva.'
    Arjuna did not use his his bow in the Kirata Episode? Who do you post such articles without reading scriptures? Go through the pages of the Kirata Parva:
    ततो हृष्टमना जिष्णुर्नाराचान्मर्मभेदिनः |
    व्यसृजच्छतधा राजन्मयूखानिव भास्करः ||३३||
    Thus thinking, Arjuna, with a cheerful heart, began, O king, to shoot arrows by hundreds, resembling in splendour the rays of the sun.
    तान्प्रसन्नेन मनसा भगवाँल्लोकभावनः |
    शूलपाणिः प्रत्यगृह्णाच्छिलावर्षमिवाचलः ||३४||
    That downpour of shafts, however, the illustrious Creator of the worlds--the wielder of the trident--bore with a glad heart, like a mountain bearing a shower of rocks.
    क्षणेन क्षीणबाणोऽथ संवृत्तः फल्गुनस्तदा |
    वित्रासं च जगामाथ तं दृष्ट्वा शरसङ्क्षयम् ||३५||
    Soon, however, the arrows of Phalguna were exhausted. And noticing this fact, Arjuna became greatly alarmed.
    चिन्तयामास जिष्णुस्तु भगवन्तं हुताशनम् |
    पुरस्तादक्षयौ दत्तौ तूणौ येनास्य खाण्डवे ||३६||

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    1. No. Kailasha, Himalayas, Tibet = "white mountains of china" all mountains were annexed by Arjuna alone so he invaded kailash and put all the beings in their place without using any special weapon

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    2. Atharva Walia - It looks like Arjuna took care of your Greater Grand-Mother during his high times. Thats why you are so fan of your Greater Grand-Daddy - Arjuna.
      It doesn’t mean Arjuna knocked your Greater Grand-Mommy, then Arjuna is that Mighty. Lord Shiva is Lord of Lords. Lord Shiva is Supreme Param Purusha, Param Brahman.
      You don’t have that brains due to some abnormalities in your DNA or maybe Raksha knocked your Great Grand Mothers that why your abusing Lord Shiva & other Devtas.
      But seems like admire Arjuna - Greater Grand-Daddy so much.
      Lord Shiva is Mahakaal, Maharudra, Almighty, Sovereign, Formless & also takes form, Starting of everything, end of all, Auspicious one, Nothingness, is everywhere & nowhere, Immeasurable, Infinite, Infinite Light & Infinite Darkness, Beyond Supreme and Above all. Lord Shiva is beyond your understanding, mysterious and beyond everything.
      Lord Shiva is Mahakaal, could destroy many Universes in less than blink of eye.
      So (Atharva Walia), it doesn’t matter you admire your Greater Grand Daddy - Arjuna so much and because of Abnormalities, has Danav family blood thats why hate Supreme Reality - Lord Shiva so much. Its not going to change reality, Lord Shiva is Lord of all Lords. Moreover, Lord Shiva is lord of all 3 worlds, Lord of Devtas, Asuras, Animals, Lord Shiva is Aadi, Anant , Unborn, Self Originated, Maharudra and even Lord of that God your Ancestors & your family pray all ghe time. Even Lord of ypur Greater Grand Daddy (Arjuna) and your Greater Grand-Mommy played by Arjuna.
      1st read Mahabharata, it was told by Shree Krishna, Vedvyasa & Arjuna that for many occasions Lord Shiva was killing Kaurvas. Whenever it was getting hard for Arjuna that time Lord Shiva was battling in front of Arjuna but nobody was able to see him. Arjuna himself admitted when he was talking to Ved Vyasa and also admitted that in front of Shree Krishna after war.
      Even Shree Krishna himself told that Lord Shiva was there in battlefield during Mahabharata war, whenever it was getting harder for Arjuna, Lord Shiva appeared & destroyed many Maharathi’s of Kaurvas.
      Moreover, Shree Krishna even told Arjuna that Viratroop of Param Brahman Arjuna saw was none other than Mahadeva - Lord Shiva, Shree Krishna was meditating on Lord Shiva.
      And Lord Shiva was speaker of Gita.
      Shree Krishna even told Arjuna that he is Narayana, he himself got blessed by Lord Shiva thats why he is worshipped and also got Sudarshan Chakra as boon from Lord Shiva after doing very hard penance of Lord Shiva for 60thousand years and then Narayana was ready to give away one of eye when he wasn’t able to find last (1000th-Kamal) Flower then Lord Shiva blessed Narayana, as a blessing got Sudarshan Chakra from Lord Shiva.
      Shree Krishna even told Arjuna that he himself (Lord Vishnu) & Lord Brahma wasn’t able to find Lord Shiva’s starting & ending point when at very beginning at Eternal Adobe after both of them were arguing on Superiority, Lord Shiva appeared as Jyotilingham - Pillar of Fire. Then they were told to find either starting or ending point, whoever could find it soon would be superior, that time Narayana truly admitted that nobody could find starting ot ending point of Lord Shiva, but Lord Brahma lied thats why as a punishment of lying Lord Brahma is not worshipped rather then Yagya or Penance for getting boon only. And Lord Shiva blessed Lord Vishnu thats why Lord Vishnu is worshipped, was blessed by Lord Shiva that Narayana & his all avatars incarnations would be worshipped just as Lord Shiva.
      Shree Krishna thats why he is worshipped and got Sudarshan Chakra for protection of Universe, to kill evil Asuras & evil.

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  8. As for the third defeat in the Digvijay Parva:
    It is clearly stated that the Siva mentioned here was a citizen of Kuvera's kingdom and Kuvera was his master. It seems you do not have the least knowledge about Lord Siva. If it were, you would have known that Lord Siva is the Lord of the Universe, not any subject of a deity and there is none as Lord Siva's master or parent. Rather Lord Siva is the master of all. Therefore, the stated Siva in the Kuvera's kingdom was evidently NOT the Umapati Mahadeva(Mahadeva, the consort of Mother Uma).
    As for the fourth defeat ( Kirata Parva): Bravo!!! Hats on to your understanding!!!See what happened at last in that epic battle :तत एनं महादेवः पीड्य गात्रैः सुपीडितम् |
    तेजसा व्याक्रमद्रोषाच्चेतस्तस्य विमोहयन् ||४९||
    The great god then, smiting the already smitten son of Pandu, and attacking him in anger with his full might, deprived him of his senses.
    ततो निपीडितैर्गात्रैः पिण्डीकृत इवाबभौ |
    फल्गुनो गात्रसंरुद्धो देवदेवेन भारत ||५०||
    Then, O Bharata, Phalguna, thus pressed by the god of the gods, with limbs, besides, bruised and mangled, became incapable of motion and was almost reduced to a ball of flesh.
    निरुच्छ्वासोऽभवच्चैव संनिरुद्धो महात्मना |
    ततः पपात संमूढस्ततः प्रीतोऽभवद्भवः ||५१||
    And struck by the illustrious god, he became breathless and, falling down on earth without power of moving, looked like one that was dead.

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    1. He was a minister, it was Shiva's temporary job and employment benefit, he accepted Arjuna's reign over kuberlok when Arjuna killed Kubera and raped Kubera's wife than Shiva said "jai arjun!"

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    2. stop talking about rape and all that nonsense

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  9. An you are saying Lord Siva was defeated. The result of any battle is decided only after seeing what happened at last and it is clear Arjuna was miserably knocked out. Also, you have vainly put a lame excuse that Arjuna was hungry and starving, he was partaking fasts for the past four months straight before this fight occurred, so Arjuna was not healthy, he was not at his peak, he was not at his prime, he was not at his full strength when he fought Shiva.'
    So what? Do you think the result would have been otherwise if he did not undergo that long fasting before appearing in that battle? The answer is a big NO. Do you know why? Because the Vedas confirm :
    nama iriṇyāya ca prapathyāya ca namaḥ kigïśilāya ca
    kṣayaṇāya ca namaḥ kapardine ca pulastaye ca namo goṣṭhyāya ca
    gṛhyāya ca namastalpyāya ca gehyāya ca namaḥ kāṭyāya ca
    gahvareṣṭhāya ca namo hṛdayyāya ca niveṣpyāya ca.
    Prostration to Him who is in fertile lands and in broad highroads; prostration to Him who is in rocky ground and in habitable places; prostration to Him who has matted locks and who reveals Himself to devotees; prostration to Him who is in cowsheds and in homes of people; prostration to Him who is in bedsteads and in palaces; prostration to Him who is in thorny jungles and in mountain caves; prostration to Him who is in whirlpools and in dewdrops.
    namaḥ pāgïsavyāya ca rajasyāya ca namaḥ
    śuṣkyāya ca harityāya ca namo lopyāya
    colapyāya ca nama ūrvyāya ca sūrmyāya ca.
    Prostration to Him who is in atoms and in dust; prostration to Him who is in what is dry and what is green; prostration to Him who is in rugged terrain and in the green grass; prostration to Him who is in the earth and in the gallant-waved rivers.
    namaḥ parṇyāya ca parṇaśadyāya ca
    namo'paguramāṇāya cābhighnate ca
    nama ākhkhidate ca prakhkhidate ca.
    Prostration to Him who is in fresh leaves and in heaps of dry leaves; prostration to Him who is with uplifted weapons and who strikes (the sinful); prostration to Him who afflicts (enemies) mildly as well as severely
    namaḥ sūdyāya ca sarasyāya ca namo nādyāya ca
    vaiśantāya ca namaḥ kūpyāya cāvaṭyāya ca
    namo varṣyāya cāvarṣyāya ca namo meghyāya ca
    vidyutyāya ca.
    Prostration to Him who is in marshes and lakes; prostration to Him who is in rivers and reservoirs; prostration to Him who is in wells and pits; prostration to Him who is in rain and in oceans; prostration to Him who is in the clouds and in lightning.
    nama īdhriyāya cātapyāya ca namo vātyāya ca
    reṣmiyāya ca namo vāstavyāya ca vāstupāya ca.
    Prostration to Him who is in the autumnal clouds and in the heating sun; prostration to Him who is in the winds and in the stormy downpour of the deluge; prostration to Him who is in the wealth of cattle and of land.( Sata Rudriyam verses)

    What did you see ? That Lord Siva is the water, grass, trees, fruits and everywhere. Also, it is stated in the same verses:

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    1. krishna said arjuna won because it was shiva that got knocked out, people downplay arjuna's achievements like india downplays other countries. kill yourself.

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    2. So - Atharva Walia, Its just arrogance, but remember Lord Shiva is Lord of destruction also. Lord Shiva destroys Arrogance, ego, Evil, darkness, demons and could kill any celestial cosmic immortal being like destroyed Kamdeva & Kaal into ashes by fire from his 3rd eye. That’s why it’s stated in Vedas, that nobody could Maharudra (Lord Shiva), nobody is mightier than Lord Shiva and Lord Shiva is Almighty, only Immortal being. Thats why in Vedas, only Lord Shiva is referred as Param Brahman, Param Purusha, Param Ishwara, Maheshwara, Bhagwan.
      Their are lots of people acting just like Daksha, Lord Shiva even punished Lord Brahma & his son Daksha Prajapati. Nobody no mighty power, not even Lord Vishnu himself was able to save Daksha Prajapati from wrath of Lord Shiva. Remember Daksha Prajapati was killed by Veer Bhadhra, who originated from one jata of Lord Shiva and Veer Bhadhra alone punished all Devtas, Daksha Prajapati, Kaal, Brahma, Narayana and many others.
      So you - Atharva Walia is just a tiny Pigshit, you are just abusing Almighty Supreme Reality ( LORD SHIVA), you are again & again doing biggest sin by admiring your Greater Grand Father - Arjuna. Most importantly, Arjuna himself did very long & hard penance of Lord Shiva, was begging Maha-Pashupatastra from Lord Shiva.
      Their is no one in all Universes, who could stand Lord Shiva, even everyone stand one 1-side, still Lord Shiva could eat everything & everyone in less than blink of eye and when their would be time of destruction (Pralay) Lord Shiva is going to destroy Universe in less than second.
      Its clearly stated in Vedas, Greater than the great is Brahma, Greater than Great Brahma is Vishnu and Greater than Great Vishnu is Isha (Lord Shiva).
      Moreover, in Vedas its also mentioned that Lord Brahma’s lifespan is equal to 4 inhaling of Lord Vishnu and Lord Vishnu’s lifespan is equal to 4 inhaling of Shree Rudram (Lord Shiva), only Lord Shiva (Maharudra) is Immortal. Lord Shiva never takes birth and never dies, Lord Shiva is only Immortal being, Aadi, Ananta, Unborn, Self Originated and beyond Supreme.

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  10. nama āvyadhinībhyo vividhyantībhyaśca vo namo
    nama uga ṇābhyastṛgïhatībhyaśca vo namo
    namo g ṛtsebhyo gṛtsapatibhyaśca vo namo
    namo vr ātebhyo vrātapatibhyaśca vo namo namaḥ.
    Prostration to Thee who art (in the form of) the Saktis competent to strike all round in various ways; prostration to Thee who art the gentle higher Saktis as well as the violent lower Saktis; prostration to Thee who art those that run after sense-pleasures as also their leaders; prostration to Thee who art the hosts of (living and non-living) beings as well as their chiefs.
    See, Lord Siva is also the giver of energies to everyone. Therefore, Lord Siva is in every fruits,eatables and water which Arjuna would have taken if not he was on fasting and the energy he would receive from them is surely from Lord Siva only. But this energy he would receive from consuming such eatables and water is not limitless whereas the energy of Lord Siva is infinite though He does not need to take anything. Therefore, the result would have been the same. Also, Arjuna is not known as a noted wrestler. He was an eminent bowman and for a bowman, physical skill is not the urgent necessity. A bowman's ability to aim at the target, skill to invoke divine weapons and an understanding to use them while countering other divine weapon is what matters.
    For the fifth defeat : It is a hearsay. Krishna may have said Arjuna defeated and satisfied Shankara, but the real account of that battle reveals things just the contrary. The truth is Arjuna got badly defeated by Shankara but satisfied Him'. OM NAMAH SIVAYAY!!!

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    1. If you accept that Arjuna is superior to bheema, bhishma, karna, then i can accept that Shiva defeated Arjuna if not then no.

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    2. Atharva Walia - It looks like Arjuna took care of your Greater Grand-Mother during his high times. Thats why you are so fan of your Greater Grand-Daddy - Arjuna.
      It doesn’t mean Arjuna knocked your Greater Grand-Mommy, then Arjuna is that Mighty. Lord Shiva is Lord of Lords. Lord Shiva is Supreme Param Purusha, Param Brahman.
      You don’t have that brains due to some abnormalities in your DNA or maybe Raksha knocked your Great Grand Mothers that why your abusing Lord Shiva & other Devtas.
      But seems like admire Arjuna - Greater Grand-Daddy so much.
      Lord Shiva is Mahakaal, Maharudra, Almighty, Sovereign, Formless & also takes form, Starting of everything, end of all, Auspicious one, Nothingness, is everywhere & nowhere, Immeasurable, Infinite, Infinite Light & Infinite Darkness, Beyond Supreme and Above all. Lord Shiva is beyond your understanding, mysterious and beyond everything.
      Lord Shiva is Mahakaal, could destroy many Universes in less than blink of eye.
      So (Atharva Walia), it doesn’t matter you admire your Greater Grand Daddy - Arjuna so much and because of Abnormalities, has Danav family blood thats why hate Supreme Reality - Lord Shiva so much. Its not going to change reality, Lord Shiva is Lord of all Lords. Moreover, Lord Shiva is lord of all 3 worlds, Lord of Devtas, Asuras, Animals, Lord Shiva is Aadi, Anant , Unborn, Self Originated, Maharudra and even Lord of that God your Ancestors & your family pray all ghe time. Even Lord of ypur Greater Grand Daddy (Arjuna) and your Greater Grand-Mommy played by Arjuna.
      1st read Mahabharata, it was told by Shree Krishna, Vedvyasa & Arjuna that for many occasions Lord Shiva was killing Kaurvas. Whenever it was getting hard for Arjuna that time Lord Shiva was battling in front of Arjuna but nobody was able to see him. Arjuna himself admitted when he was talking to Ved Vyasa and also admitted that in front of Shree Krishna after war.
      Even Shree Krishna himself told that Lord Shiva was there in battlefield during Mahabharata war, whenever it was getting harder for Arjuna, Lord Shiva appeared & destroyed many Maharathi’s of Kaurvas.
      Moreover, Shree Krishna even told Arjuna that Viratroop of Param Brahman Arjuna saw was none other than Mahadeva - Lord Shiva, Shree Krishna was meditating on Lord Shiva.
      And Lord Shiva was speaker of Gita.
      Shree Krishna even told Arjuna that he is Narayana, he himself got blessed by Lord Shiva thats why he is worshipped and also got Sudarshan Chakra as boon from Lord Shiva after doing very hard penance of Lord Shiva for 60thousand years and then Narayana was ready to give away one of eye when he wasn’t able to find last (1000th-Kamal) Flower then Lord Shiva blessed Narayana, as a blessing got Sudarshan Chakra from Lord Shiva.
      Shree Krishna even told Arjuna that he himself (Lord Vishnu) & Lord Brahma wasn’t able to find Lord Shiva’s starting & ending point when at very beginning at Eternal Adobe after both of them were arguing on Superiority, Lord Shiva appeared as Jyotilingham - Pillar of Fire. Then they were told to find either starting or ending point, whoever could find it soon would be superior, that time Narayana truly admitted that nobody could find starting ot ending point of Lord Shiva, but Lord Brahma lied thats why as a punishment of lying Lord Brahma is not worshipped rather then Yagya or Penance for getting boon only. And Lord Shiva blessed Lord Vishnu thats why Lord Vishnu is worshipped, was blessed by Lord Shiva that Narayana & his all avatars incarnations would be worshipped just as Lord Shiva.
      Shree Krishna thats why he is worshipped and got Sudarshan Chakra for protection of Universe, to kill evil Asuras & evil.

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  11. Also you've committed a grave sin saying Lord Siva cheated Arjuna. He who Himself is the embodiment of Truth and the Omnipotent Almighty will cheat an ordinary mortal like Arjuna!!! It is great offence on your part at the divine feet of Uma-Maheswara. Though Lord Siva will forgive you taking you a kid with no knowledge about Him. If you think using illusion to snatch the bow of Arjuna is deception then know it for certain that the only reality is Lord Siva and the rest are nothing but His illusion. This infinite Universe with galaxies, stars, black holes, planets with their satellites, this vast firmament, oceans, rivers, mountains, clouds, sunshine, rainfalls, snow and trees, animals etc.what we see around us are nothing but His illusion. It is illusion that we feel ourselves different from Him and from each other. Similarly, our person, mind, individual ego, personal attributes,relation and even our conscious and sub-conscious self with all their emotion, our dream and wakefulness as well as the consciousness of duality are nothing but His illusion. There is no escape for any of us from His illusion from womb to tomb. Only the great Sages who have succeeded in the cessation of their personal consciousness and obtaining their identity with the Supreme Self of Lord Siva are free from His illusion. Arjuna was never in that standard. Therefore, he also spent his entire life considering himself a Pandava Prince with all his merit and demerits under the influence of Lord Siva's illusion. During the Kirata incidence, appearance of that boar followed by the Kirata, Arjuna's inability to identify Him as Lord Siva, stirring up his ego by the Kirata's words and finally coming in battle against Him are what else but the illusion of Lord Siva? What more illusion should He have cast on Arjuna? Why do you think snatching Arjuna's bow by exerting His illusion is cheating? Nothing is unfair in love and war. Did not Ghatotkach, the son of Bhima cast illusion during the Kurukshetra war? Did Krishna not cast his spell of illusion over the Kuru warrior to save Arjuna from Vasava weapon? Were they cheating then? Did Arjuna himself not cheat Karna by killing him unarmed and from his backside? If Lord Siva used His illusion then it was His ability. Did Arjuna have that ability or at least the ability to defend himself from that illusion? If not then admit Arjuna was defeated. And Arjune finally lay on ground unconscious with mangled limbs and inability to breath was not due to Lord Siva's illusion but by the impact of His punch and pressure exerted on Arjuna. OM NAMAH SIVAYAY!!!

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    1. If shiva using illusions is fair then WHY did people insult Meghanada for using illusions on Rama, Lakshmana etc?
      The reason they insult Meghanad is cause he defeated Lakshman and Ram.

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    2. Shiva illusion is fair because he was testing Arjuna.Opponent is tested and prepare .Ok He was just checking his power.His motive was just to take test.
      If he fight with Arjun in a war then he will give his full introduction and fight fairly.ok

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    3. No bitch, Shiva's illusions is like Meghanada's illusion, the difference is that Shiva lost to Arjuna while Meghanada won against that eunuch Rama who is a childless pimp.
      1. Arjuna
      2. Shiva
      3. Meghanada (his power came from Shiva's boon)
      4. Satyaki
      5. Rama
      You cant prove me wrong. I have read many versions and speak unbiasedly.
      Ram was a bitch and cant counter illusions he isnt a real man like Shiva or Krishna or Arjuna.
      Jai Shri Krishna, fuck ram, fuck hanuman, fuck seetha, fuck lakshman 🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣😎😎😎😎😎😎
      Sher wins kutta loses 😎😎😎😎

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    4. Hlo Mr chutiya sun betaa Shri Rama ne Pinaka toda thaa chutiye tere Arjuna agar vhaa hota to hila bhi nhi ptaa. Shri Rama ne apne full life mein jitne rakshason ka hraya hai. Utne rakshason ko tera arjun sapne mein bhi nhi hraaya hogaa.shri Rama ne pura Lanka war without magic and without treachery, without armour ldee thee. Ache acho ki hai Dhulaayi ki hai Shri Rama ne. Arjuna 13th day 6,7 akshohini common soldiers ko maarta hai. Shri Rama 6,7 akshohini magical raakshason ko maarta very hai. Betaa Shri Rama ki taakat tujhe andaaza nhi. Jaa chutiye Ramayana padh. Tere liye shri Rama ki shakti ka ek zalak dikhata hu dekh le enjoy kr. In Aranya Kanda, Rama faces Khara and Dhushana and their Army of 14000 guise changing demons. The war is the result of Surphanaka’s provocation of Khara and Dhushana to war with Rama. Rama orders Lakshmana to take Sita to safe, far off place and guard her while he wars with the demons. Maharshi Valmiki explains in this Shloka.
      artha adhika muhuurtena raameNa nishitaiH sharaiH 3-30-30
      catur dasha sahasraaNi rakshsaam kaama ruupiNaam
      khara duuSaNa mukhyaanaam nihataani mahaamR^idhe 3-30-31
      Meaning:
      And those gods and other celestials in their amazement said among themselves that ‘in one and half hours, say seventy two minutes of this extreme crack-down Rama with his sharp arrows has eradicated fourteen thousand guise changing demons, including their chieftains Khara and Duushana.
      One Rama, 14000 guise changing demons, one hour 12 minutes!



      Lord Rama killed 14,000 demons in Dandaka forest who were sent by demon Khara.

      Lord Rama invoked an unique weapon called Gandharvastra to kill those 14,000 demons sent by Khara (one of Ravana's brothers).
      The speciality of this weapon is that when fired, it allows it's originator to move with great speed in the battlefield.
      With the power of this weapon, the warrior can change his directions and avoid the weapons of the enemy.
      He encountered with those demons in a place called Janasthana inside Dandaka forest.
      Those powerful demons angrily descended upon him showering down diverse weapons from all the directions.
      [1] Lord Rama invoked the weapon Gandharvastra upon those descending demons who attacked from all the directions.
      Those demons have resurfaced from all around pressurising Raghava in high dudgeon. On seeing the reappearance of demons from everywhere, with whom all the directions and inter-directions are fully

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    5. and who are storming torrents of arrows, then that exceptionally forceful Rama made a thunderous sound and launched an extremely blazing missile among the gather of demons, called gandharva missile.
      [2] Thousands of powerful arrows were created from Lord Rama's weapon in no time which suddenly confused all the demons since they could not discern the extremely swift movement of Lord Rama while invoking Gandharvastra.
      Then from the nimbus of his bow, arrows in thousand have scurried out, and with them thus arrived all the ten sides are cramped up. Either the drawing of those supreme arrows from the quiver, or the traction of bowstring on placing them, or unloosing them from the bow is unperceived by those demons that are harrowing under those arrows.
      [3] Lord Rama used the powerful Gandharvastra weapon to shroud the radiance of the sun with darkness and confuse the demons.
      Darkness caused by the thick of the arrows overspread the sky including its sun, while Rama happened to persevere spewing forth his arrows.
      Lord Rama moved with great speed due to the energy of the weapon and eliminated all the 14,000 demons in the battlefield.
      Lord Rama killed the demons Khara, Dushana and Trishira who approached to fight with him after the death of all the demons who were sent by Khara.
      Lord Rama killed two powerful demons, namely Kumbhakarna and Makaraksha, who were sent by Ravana to fight against the army of apes in the battlefield of Lanka.
      Kumbhakarna was a colossal demon who defeated foremost apes like Sugreeva and Angada in the war against Lord Rama.

      [4] Lord Rama sliced off Kumbhakarna's head with Indra's powerful weapon known as Aindrastra.
      That arrow, propelled by Rama's arm, with a terrific aspect like the smokeless fire, having a formidable energy of Indra's thunderbolt and illuminating the ten quarters with its own splendour, proceeded forward. That Rama slashed Kumbhakarna's head, which was looking like a huge mountain-peak, having well-rounded tusks and with charming and quivering ear-rings, as like Indra the destroyer of strong-holds, in the past, chopped off the head of Vritra, the demon of darkness and drought.
      Makaraksha was the son of Khara and he fought against the entire army of apes.

      [5] Makaraksha started to kill the army of apes with great speed and Lord Rama himself had to approach the demon for a fight in the battlefield.
      Tormented by Makaraksha with a multitude of arrows, all the monkeys were bewildered in mind, agonized with fear and ran away. On seeing those monkeys fleeing, all the arrogant demons roared like lions, assuming a triumphant feeling. While those monkeys were fleeing on all sides, Rama then, with a shower of arrows, intercepted those demons on that occasion.
      [6] Lord Rama invoked Agneyastra (fire missile) and killed Makaraksha after a fierce encounter.
      Then, seeing Makaraksha rushing towards him, that Rama the delight of Raghu dynasty, while smiling, fitted to his bow, a mystic missile presided over by fire. Struck by that missile by Rama, the demon with his heart split open, fell down dead then and there, in the battle-field.

      Lord Rama invoked Brahmastra and killed Ravana after a fierce battle of seven days which marked the end of a dreadful war.
      That arrow, released with great speed and which was capable of destroying the body, tore off the heart of that evil-minded Ravana.

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    6. Dekhle Raam ki taqat agar yakin nhi to Ramayana padh. Devtaon mein sab se strongest Archer Shiva hai. Aur maanavon mein sab se strongest Archer Shri Rama hai

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    7. Ram doesn have taaqat he got his ass kicked by Meghanad three times, Ravan one time, Kumbhkarn one time, Viradh & Kabaandha defeated Ram

      Indra is tougher than Ram

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    8. Arjuna killed 7 aukshounis but Ram could only kill 14 thousand soldiers that is nothing compared to what Arjuna did.

      The bow Ram broke was called Shaivamn Dhanush not Pinaka, so it means nothing, regardless Arjuna dragged Shiva & defeated him in Rajasuya Parva so what is Ram infront of Arjuna?

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    9. YOU SAY "Kumbhkarna defeated apes like angad and sugreev"but HOW COME you dont talk about how HanuTATi got his ass kicked by Kumbhkarn 3 TIMES? are you biased in favor of hanuman (Hanutati!) what more can you expect from a PAAJEET 😂😂😂😂?

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    10. Atharva Walia - So - Atharva Walia, Its just arrogance, but remember Lord Shiva is Lord of destruction also. Lord Shiva destroys Arrogance, ego, Evil, darkness, demons and could kill any celestial cosmic immortal being like destroyed Kamdeva & Kaal into ashes by fire from his 3rd eye. That’s why it’s stated in Vedas, that nobody could Maharudra (Lord Shiva), nobody is mightier than Lord Shiva and Lord Shiva is Almighty, only Immortal being. Thats why in Vedas, only Lord Shiva is referred as Param Brahman, Param Purusha, Param Ishwara, Maheshwara, Bhagwan.
      Their are lots of people acting just like Daksha, Lord Shiva even punished Lord Brahma & his son Daksha Prajapati. Nobody no mighty power, not even Lord Vishnu himself was able to save Daksha Prajapati from wrath of Lord Shiva. Remember Daksha Prajapati was killed by Veer Bhadhra, who originated from one jata of Lord Shiva and Veer Bhadhra alone punished all Devtas, Daksha Prajapati, Kaal, Brahma, Narayana and many others.
      So you - Atharva Walia is just a tiny Pigshit, you are just abusing Almighty Supreme Reality ( LORD SHIVA), you are again & again doing biggest sin by admiring your Greater Grand Father - Arjuna. Most importantly, Arjuna himself did very long & hard penance of Lord Shiva, was begging Maha-Pashupatastra from Lord Shiva.
      Their is no one in all Universes, who could stand Lord Shiva, even everyone stand one 1-side, still Lord Shiva could eat everything & everyone in less than blink of eye and when their would be time of destruction (Pralay) Lord Shiva is going to destroy Universe in less than second.
      Its clearly stated in Vedas, Greater than the great is Brahma, Greater than Great Brahma is Vishnu and Greater than Great Vishnu is Isha (Lord Shiva).
      Moreover, in Vedas its also mentioned that Lord Brahma’s lifespan is equal to 4 inhaling of Lord Vishnu and Lord Vishnu’s lifespan is equal to 4 inhaling of Shree Rudram (Lord Shiva), only Lord Shiva (Maharudra) is Immortal. Lord Shiva never takes birth and never dies, Lord Shiva is only Immortal being, Aadi, Ananta, Unborn, Self Originated and beyond Supreme.

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  12. Again I have something to say about Arjuna's dragging Lord Siva by the bow-string. What do you think is it ever possible? Lord Siva Himself is the Universe. Sage Veda Vyasa has clearly admitted in the Mahabharata:
    'Thou hast, O Arjuna, seen Sankara, that First cause from which have sprung the Prajapatis, that puissant Being endued with great energy, he that is the embodiment of heaven, earth and sky, the Divine Lord, the protector of the universe, ( Drona Parva:Book 7, Chapter CCII, page 484)) The Purusha Suktam of the Rig Veda even reveals He is beyond the Universe.
    Now think, this Universe is endless. Our earth stands just like a mustard seed or even more miniscule than that in comparison to the Universe. Again all the animals living on earth is as minute as a spore of dust in comparison to earth. Arjuna and other Pandavas was such a living being walking on the earth. So, where they stand in comparison to the endless expanse of Lord Siva who Himself is the Universe and more than that ? Besides, do you think the Universe is subject to be dragged on bow-string? Then how could Arjuna drag Lord Siva who is even greater than this Universe? Actually Arjuna managed to drag the Kirata embodiment which the 1/infinity part of Lord Siva's person and was created to fight against Arjuna. Suppose you are fighting against an ant with a matchstick. If the ant bites the matchstick, it is a great credit on its part but it did not bite you. But when you beat the ant with that matchstick, you are beating the ant, not the matchstick. Here the Kirata embodiment is that matchstick and Arjuna is that ant. Understand!!! OM NAMAH SIVAYAY!!!

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    1. of course its possible, whats written is true that shiva was a helpless kutta and a bitch who got dragged and tossed around by arjuna's bow string, cause arjuna can kill ten shivas

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    2. Which Shiva are you talking about.Was it you in that Yuga.Because all knows the power of Lord Shiva.
      And what you are showing by abusing him.

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    3. abuse is one of the few ways to debate as people in india get very toxic whenever the discussion is about arjuna, indra, karna, hanuman, shiva, vishnu, ravan, ram etc

      i respect shiva but in arguments with the arjuna haters you have to show an attitude of trolling

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    4. Dragging ka matlab he dragged good bow string. Not Siva chutiye shiva ko touch krne ke liye ek yogyata hona chiye. Shiva ko kya drag krega tu chal nikal. Pehle ache se padna seekh shri Rama aur Shiv ji ko Arjuna ke saath compare mat kr. shri Rama alone can kill 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 this much of Arjuna.

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    5. dragging ka matlab kee hanuman napunsak aadmi tha tey anjana ek randi thi aur shiva har gaya Arjuna ke bete Babruvahan sey

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    6. Atharva Walia - It looks like Arjuna took care of your Greater Grand-Mother during his high times. Thats why you are so fan of your Greater Grand-Daddy - Arjuna.
      It doesn’t mean Arjuna knocked your Greater Grand-Mommy, then Arjuna is that Mighty. Lord Shiva is Lord of Lords. Lord Shiva is Supreme Param Purusha, Param Brahman.
      You don’t have that brains due to some abnormalities in your DNA or maybe Raksha knocked your Great Grand Mothers that why your abusing Lord Shiva & other Devtas.
      But seems like admire Arjuna - Greater Grand-Daddy so much.
      Lord Shiva is Mahakaal, Maharudra, Almighty, Sovereign, Formless & also takes form, Starting of everything, end of all, Auspicious one, Nothingness, is everywhere & nowhere, Immeasurable, Infinite, Infinite Light & Infinite Darkness, Beyond Supreme and Above all. Lord Shiva is beyond your understanding, mysterious and beyond everything.
      Lord Shiva is Mahakaal, could destroy many Universes in less than blink of eye.
      So (Atharva Walia), it doesn’t matter you admire your Greater Grand Daddy - Arjuna so much and because of Abnormalities, has Danav family blood thats why hate Supreme Reality - Lord Shiva so much. Its not going to change reality, Lord Shiva is Lord of all Lords. Moreover, Lord Shiva is lord of all 3 worlds, Lord of Devtas, Asuras, Animals, Lord Shiva is Aadi, Anant , Unborn, Self Originated, Maharudra and even Lord of that God your Ancestors & your family pray all ghe time. Even Lord of ypur Greater Grand Daddy (Arjuna) and your Greater Grand-Mommy played by Arjuna.
      1st read Mahabharata, it was told by Shree Krishna, Vedvyasa & Arjuna that for many occasions Lord Shiva was killing Kaurvas. Whenever it was getting hard for Arjuna that time Lord Shiva was battling in front of Arjuna but nobody was able to see him. Arjuna himself admitted when he was talking to Ved Vyasa and also admitted that in front of Shree Krishna after war.
      Even Shree Krishna himself told that Lord Shiva was there in battlefield during Mahabharata war, whenever it was getting harder for Arjuna, Lord Shiva appeared & destroyed many Maharathi’s of Kaurvas.
      Moreover, Shree Krishna even told Arjuna that Viratroop of Param Brahman Arjuna saw was none other than Mahadeva - Lord Shiva, Shree Krishna was meditating on Lord Shiva.
      And Lord Shiva was speaker of Gita.
      Shree Krishna even told Arjuna that he is Narayana, he himself got blessed by Lord Shiva thats why he is worshipped and also got Sudarshan Chakra as boon from Lord Shiva after doing very hard penance of Lord Shiva for 60thousand years and then Narayana was ready to give away one of eye when he wasn’t able to find last (1000th-Kamal) Flower then Lord Shiva blessed Narayana, as a blessing got Sudarshan Chakra from Lord Shiva.
      Shree Krishna even told Arjuna that he himself (Lord Vishnu) & Lord Brahma wasn’t able to find Lord Shiva’s starting & ending point when at very beginning at Eternal Adobe after both of them were arguing on Superiority, Lord Shiva appeared as Jyotilingham - Pillar of Fire. Then they were told to find either starting or ending point, whoever could find it soon would be superior, that time Narayana truly admitted that nobody could find starting ot ending point of Lord Shiva, but Lord Brahma lied thats why as a punishment of lying Lord Brahma is not worshipped rather then Yagya or Penance for getting boon only. And Lord Shiva blessed Lord Vishnu thats why Lord Vishnu is worshipped, was blessed by Lord Shiva that Narayana & his all avatars incarnations would be worshipped just as Lord Shiva.
      Shree Krishna thats why he is worshipped and got Sudarshan Chakra for protection of Universe, to kill evil Asuras & evil.

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  13. Finally, Lord Siva Himself is the Universe. The Vedas clearly reveals Him as :
    yajataṃ viśvarupam (RigVeda 2.33.10)
    who has this whole universe as his form
    Therefore, Arjuna is not even an insect before Him and you are saying he defeated Lord Siva on the basis of some bogus stories which were not at all written by Vyasa but were much later interpolations into the sacred text!!!Also, Lord Siva is the Mahakala viz. The Supreme Time eternal. As it has been attested in the Taittirya Aranyaka :
    “vāmadēvāya namō jyēṣṭhāya namaḥ śrēṣṭhāya namō
    rudrāya namaḥ kālāya namaḥ kalavikaraṇāya namō |” (Taittiriya Aranyaka 10.18.1)
    “Salutation to Vamadeva. Salutation to Jyestha (the Eldest, existing before creation). Salutation to Srestha (the most worthy and excellent). Salutation to Rudra. Salutation to Kala. Salutation to Kalavikarana (He who causes changes in the evolution of the universe beginning with Prakriti)”.
    The same has been admitted by Sage Veda Vyasa in MBH as:
    “tvattaḥ pravartatē sarvaṁ tvayi sarvaṁ pratiṣṭhitam
    kālākhyaḥ puruṣākhyaśca brahmākhyaśca tvamēva hi |” (MBH 13:16:15)
    “From thee flows everything. Upon thee rests everything. Thou art called Kala, thou art called Purusha, thou art called Brahma”.
    Has anyone ever got victory over Time ? Had Arjuna that capacity , he would have conquered death. Did he ? Not Arjuna but his preceptor and mentor Lord Krishna even was not beyond Time that is why he also had to embrace death.
    Also, the Rig Veda says:
    अषाल्हाय सहमानाय वेधसे
    aṣālhāya sahamānāya vedhase (RigVeda 7.46.1)
    whom none may overcome.
    न वा ओजीयो रुद्र त्वद् अस्ति
    na vā ojīyo rudra tvad asti (RigVeda 2.33.10)
    a mightier than you there is not Rudra.
    तवस्तमस् तवसा
    tavastamas tavasā
    Mightiest of the mighty. (R.V. 2.33.3)
    Do you think Sage Veda Vyasa, one of the foremost masters of the Vedic knowledge and the son of Sage Parasara, a seer of Vedic verse did not know it? No, my friend. And, therefore, he can never write such bogus cock and bulls stories narrating Lord Siva's defeat.
    Since Vedic verses can NEVER be false, those gibberish cock and bull stories are NEVER true.
    In reality Lord Siva has NEVER been defeated because it is not at all possible. OM NAMAH SIVAYAY!!!

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    1. India was named after Indra not Shiva.
      Vishnu was the younger brother of Indra so is Shiva a servant to Indra, he followed in Khandav Daha like a stalker

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  14. Hahaha...u have gone totally insane..may Lord shiva bless u..Get well soon

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    1. not as insane as hanumans ugly slut karna LOL 🤣🤣😂😂

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    2. So - Atharva Walia, Its just arrogance, but remember Lord Shiva is Lord of destruction also. Lord Shiva destroys Arrogance, ego, Evil, darkness, demons and could kill any celestial cosmic immortal being like destroyed Kamdeva & Kaal into ashes by fire from his 3rd eye. That’s why it’s stated in Vedas, that nobody could Maharudra (Lord Shiva), nobody is mightier than Lord Shiva and Lord Shiva is Almighty, only Immortal being. Thats why in Vedas, only Lord Shiva is referred as Param Brahman, Param Purusha, Param Ishwara, Maheshwara, Bhagwan.
      Their are lots of people acting just like Daksha, Lord Shiva even punished Lord Brahma & his son Daksha Prajapati. Nobody no mighty power, not even Lord Vishnu himself was able to save Daksha Prajapati from wrath of Lord Shiva. Remember Daksha Prajapati was killed by Veer Bhadhra, who originated from one jata of Lord Shiva and Veer Bhadhra alone punished all Devtas, Daksha Prajapati, Kaal, Brahma, Narayana and many others.
      So you - Atharva Walia is just a tiny Pigshit, you are just abusing Almighty Supreme Reality ( LORD SHIVA), you are again & again doing biggest sin by admiring your Greater Grand Father - Arjuna. Most importantly, Arjuna himself did very long & hard penance of Lord Shiva, was begging Maha-Pashupatastra from Lord Shiva.
      Their is no one in all Universes, who could stand Lord Shiva, even everyone stand one 1-side, still Lord Shiva could eat everything & everyone in less than blink of eye and when their would be time of destruction (Pralay) Lord Shiva is going to destroy Universe in less than second.
      Its clearly stated in Vedas, Greater than the great is Brahma, Greater than Great Brahma is Vishnu and Greater than Great Vishnu is Isha (Lord Shiva).
      Moreover, in Vedas its also mentioned that Lord Brahma’s lifespan is equal to 4 inhaling of Lord Vishnu and Lord Vishnu’s lifespan is equal to 4 inhaling of Shree Rudram (Lord Shiva), only Lord Shiva (Maharudra) is Immortal. Lord Shiva never takes birth and never dies, Lord Shiva is only Immortal being, Aadi, Ananta, Unborn, Self Originated and beyond Supreme.

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  15. Shiva is playing with his child Arjuna that is not real defeat...if he fight really Arjun don't survive even universe ...u don't have any knowledge

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    1. kill yourself for typing too many dots you should be raped like shakuni raped karna's daughters

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    2. Atharva Walia - It looks like Arjuna took care of your Greater Grand-Mother during his high times. Thats why you are so fan of your Greater Grand-Daddy - Arjuna.
      It doesn’t mean Arjuna knocked your Greater Grand-Mommy, then Arjuna is that Mighty. Lord Shiva is Lord of Lords. Lord Shiva is Supreme Param Purusha, Param Brahman.
      You don’t have that brains due to some abnormalities in your DNA or maybe Raksha knocked your Great Grand Mothers that why your abusing Lord Shiva & other Devtas.
      But seems like admire Arjuna - Greater Grand-Daddy so much.
      Lord Shiva is Mahakaal, Maharudra, Almighty, Sovereign, Formless & also takes form, Starting of everything, end of all, Auspicious one, Nothingness, is everywhere & nowhere, Immeasurable, Infinite, Infinite Light & Infinite Darkness, Beyond Supreme and Above all. Lord Shiva is beyond your understanding, mysterious and beyond everything.
      Lord Shiva is Mahakaal, could destroy many Universes in less than blink of eye.
      So (Atharva Walia), it doesn’t matter you admire your Greater Grand Daddy - Arjuna so much and because of Abnormalities, has Danav family blood thats why hate Supreme Reality - Lord Shiva so much. Its not going to change reality, Lord Shiva is Lord of all Lords. Moreover, Lord Shiva is lord of all 3 worlds, Lord of Devtas, Asuras, Animals, Lord Shiva is Aadi, Anant , Unborn, Self Originated, Maharudra and even Lord of that God your Ancestors & your family pray all ghe time. Even Lord of ypur Greater Grand Daddy (Arjuna) and your Greater Grand-Mommy played by Arjuna.
      1st read Mahabharata, it was told by Shree Krishna, Vedvyasa & Arjuna that for many occasions Lord Shiva was killing Kaurvas. Whenever it was getting hard for Arjuna that time Lord Shiva was battling in front of Arjuna but nobody was able to see him. Arjuna himself admitted when he was talking to Ved Vyasa and also admitted that in front of Shree Krishna after war.
      Even Shree Krishna himself told that Lord Shiva was there in battlefield during Mahabharata war, whenever it was getting harder for Arjuna, Lord Shiva appeared & destroyed many Maharathi’s of Kaurvas.
      Moreover, Shree Krishna even told Arjuna that Viratroop of Param Brahman Arjuna saw was none other than Mahadeva - Lord Shiva, Shree Krishna was meditating on Lord Shiva.
      And Lord Shiva was speaker of Gita.
      Shree Krishna even told Arjuna that he is Narayana, he himself got blessed by Lord Shiva thats why he is worshipped and also got Sudarshan Chakra as boon from Lord Shiva after doing very hard penance of Lord Shiva for 60thousand years and then Narayana was ready to give away one of eye when he wasn’t able to find last (1000th-Kamal) Flower then Lord Shiva blessed Narayana, as a blessing got Sudarshan Chakra from Lord Shiva.
      Shree Krishna even told Arjuna that he himself (Lord Vishnu) & Lord Brahma wasn’t able to find Lord Shiva’s starting & ending point when at very beginning at Eternal Adobe after both of them were arguing on Superiority, Lord Shiva appeared as Jyotilingham - Pillar of Fire. Then they were told to find either starting or ending point, whoever could find it soon would be superior, that time Narayana truly admitted that nobody could find starting ot ending point of Lord Shiva, but Lord Brahma lied thats why as a punishment of lying Lord Brahma is not worshipped rather then Yagya or Penance for getting boon only. And Lord Shiva blessed Lord Vishnu thats why Lord Vishnu is worshipped, was blessed by Lord Shiva that Narayana & his all avatars incarnations would be worshipped just as Lord Shiva.
      Shree Krishna thats why he is worshipped and got Sudarshan Chakra for protection of Universe, to kill evil Asuras & evil.

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  16. Wow. Arjun is more powerful than lord shiva becausr you gave proofs. Excellent.

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    1. Atharva Walia your mother is a prostitute who has been fucked by 100000000000000000000000000000000000000 men and this is really true. The person whom you think to be your father is not your father but the one who supplied your mother to these many people and whatever you are commenting are all utterly bullshit and fake and your mother loves big black cock of men.

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    2. i believe jaideep singh gill is indias only mard, he defeated hanumanji

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    3. Atharva Walia - It looks like Arjuna took care of your Greater Grand-Mother during his high times. Thats why you are so fan of your Greater Grand-Daddy - Arjuna.
      It doesn’t mean Arjuna knocked your Greater Grand-Mommy, then Arjuna is that Mighty. Lord Shiva is Lord of Lords. Lord Shiva is Supreme Param Purusha, Param Brahman.
      You don’t have that brains due to some abnormalities in your DNA or maybe Raksha knocked your Great Grand Mothers that why your abusing Lord Shiva & other Devtas.
      But seems like admire Arjuna - Greater Grand-Daddy so much.
      Lord Shiva is Mahakaal, Maharudra, Almighty, Sovereign, Formless & also takes form, Starting of everything, end of all, Auspicious one, Nothingness, is everywhere & nowhere, Immeasurable, Infinite, Infinite Light & Infinite Darkness, Beyond Supreme and Above all. Lord Shiva is beyond your understanding, mysterious and beyond everything.
      Lord Shiva is Mahakaal, could destroy many Universes in less than blink of eye.
      So (Atharva Walia), it doesn’t matter you admire your Greater Grand Daddy - Arjuna so much and because of Abnormalities, has Danav family blood thats why hate Supreme Reality - Lord Shiva so much. Its not going to change reality, Lord Shiva is Lord of all Lords. Moreover, Lord Shiva is lord of all 3 worlds, Lord of Devtas, Asuras, Animals, Lord Shiva is Aadi, Anant , Unborn, Self Originated, Maharudra and even Lord of that God your Ancestors & your family pray all ghe time. Even Lord of ypur Greater Grand Daddy (Arjuna) and your Greater Grand-Mommy played by Arjuna.
      1st read Mahabharata, it was told by Shree Krishna, Vedvyasa & Arjuna that for many occasions Lord Shiva was killing Kaurvas. Whenever it was getting hard for Arjuna that time Lord Shiva was battling in front of Arjuna but nobody was able to see him. Arjuna himself admitted when he was talking to Ved Vyasa and also admitted that in front of Shree Krishna after war.
      Even Shree Krishna himself told that Lord Shiva was there in battlefield during Mahabharata war, whenever it was getting harder for Arjuna, Lord Shiva appeared & destroyed many Maharathi’s of Kaurvas.
      Moreover, Shree Krishna even told Arjuna that Viratroop of Param Brahman Arjuna saw was none other than Mahadeva - Lord Shiva, Shree Krishna was meditating on Lord Shiva.
      And Lord Shiva was speaker of Gita.
      Shree Krishna even told Arjuna that he is Narayana, he himself got blessed by Lord Shiva thats why he is worshipped and also got Sudarshan Chakra as boon from Lord Shiva after doing very hard penance of Lord Shiva for 60thousand years and then Narayana was ready to give away one of eye when he wasn’t able to find last (1000th-Kamal) Flower then Lord Shiva blessed Narayana, as a blessing got Sudarshan Chakra from Lord Shiva.
      Shree Krishna even told Arjuna that he himself (Lord Vishnu) & Lord Brahma wasn’t able to find Lord Shiva’s starting & ending point when at very beginning at Eternal Adobe after both of them were arguing on Superiority, Lord Shiva appeared as Jyotilingham - Pillar of Fire. Then they were told to find either starting or ending point, whoever could find it soon would be superior, that time Narayana truly admitted that nobody could find starting ot ending point of Lord Shiva, but Lord Brahma lied thats why as a punishment of lying Lord Brahma is not worshipped rather then Yagya or Penance for getting boon only. And Lord Shiva blessed Lord Vishnu thats why Lord Vishnu is worshipped, was blessed by Lord Shiva that Narayana & his all avatars incarnations would be worshipped just as Lord Shiva.
      Shree Krishna thats why he is worshipped and got Sudarshan Chakra for protection of Universe, to kill evil Asuras & evil.

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  17. this is the most stupid explanation ever in hostories of explanation on hindu mythology...shiva vishnu and brahma are only 3 trinities who created universe...in shiva purana shiva created everyone included brahma and vishnu...in vishnu puran vishnu created brahma ji and shiv ji...but that's it..there is no othet explanation..in devi mahatmya it is told that devi created everyone..but there is no other puranas which has contrary view..arjun was mere mortal who was nothing but son of indrA ..we all know indra himself was not that powerful...now comparing arjun with shiva is complete nonsense..in one of the battles between arjuna arj shiva..shiva was happy with performance of arjuna so gave hi pashupati ashtra..no one can defeat shiva as he is eternal..he is the one who is worshipped by lord vishnu..so how can u even imagine that anybody can defeat in lord shiva...get your facts right and try to go out of your hallucinations

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    1. and thats the reason why indra raped surya and hanuman one hundred times, made a infinite scar on shiva's throat?
      & why vishnu is a scared cuckold brother of Indra?
      is this the reason vishnu cries whenever Indra defeats Kabandha and Kabandha defeats your maryada puruSHITum ram the avatar of vishnu?
      Indra > Kabandha > Rama clearly Indra is superior to vishnu and ram.

      You are a idiot.

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    2. I have guessed who are you.Just apply your brain ok

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    3. Well Indra is the king to all gods for a reason.

      And India was named after Indra not the indus river or a king like bharat

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    4. meghanad was at least a real man and he respected women while hanuman lost and got thrashed by ladies like tadka and ayomukhi many times they kicked his ass and HANUTATI RAN AWAY LIKE A BITCH

      i can name 50 vanars and rakshasas who could kick hanumans fat ass back to kutti anjana devi

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    5. Atharva Walia - So - Atharva Walia, Its just arrogance, but remember Lord Shiva is Lord of destruction also. Lord Shiva destroys Arrogance, ego, Evil, darkness, demons and could kill any celestial cosmic immortal being like destroyed Kamdeva & Kaal into ashes by fire from his 3rd eye. That’s why it’s stated in Vedas, that nobody could Maharudra (Lord Shiva), nobody is mightier than Lord Shiva and Lord Shiva is Almighty, only Immortal being. Thats why in Vedas, only Lord Shiva is referred as Param Brahman, Param Purusha, Param Ishwara, Maheshwara, Bhagwan.
      Their are lots of people acting just like Daksha, Lord Shiva even punished Lord Brahma & his son Daksha Prajapati. Nobody no mighty power, not even Lord Vishnu himself was able to save Daksha Prajapati from wrath of Lord Shiva. Remember Daksha Prajapati was killed by Veer Bhadhra, who originated from one jata of Lord Shiva and Veer Bhadhra alone punished all Devtas, Daksha Prajapati, Kaal, Brahma, Narayana and many others.
      So you - Atharva Walia is just a tiny Pigshit, you are just abusing Almighty Supreme Reality ( LORD SHIVA), you are again & again doing biggest sin by admiring your Greater Grand Father - Arjuna. Most importantly, Arjuna himself did very long & hard penance of Lord Shiva, was begging Maha-Pashupatastra from Lord Shiva.
      Their is no one in all Universes, who could stand Lord Shiva, even everyone stand one 1-side, still Lord Shiva could eat everything & everyone in less than blink of eye and when their would be time of destruction (Pralay) Lord Shiva is going to destroy Universe in less than second.
      Its clearly stated in Vedas, Greater than the great is Brahma, Greater than Great Brahma is Vishnu and Greater than Great Vishnu is Isha (Lord Shiva).
      Moreover, in Vedas its also mentioned that Lord Brahma’s lifespan is equal to 4 inhaling of Lord Vishnu and Lord Vishnu’s lifespan is equal to 4 inhaling of Shree Rudram (Lord Shiva), only Lord Shiva (Maharudra) is Immortal. Lord Shiva never takes birth and never dies, Lord Shiva is only Immortal being, Aadi, Ananta, Unborn, Self Originated and beyond Supreme

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  18. all the shiva tards and karna tards and arjuna haters can kill themselves they are just mad because you told the truth Jaideep the weakest dogs (hindus and karna fans) bark the loudest and most hindus are retarded

    they never learn anything from their scripts, so ignore them as tigers kick the asses of lions (arjuna the tiger who defeated the LION shiva) and they dont pay attention to insects/dogs (hanubhakts, karna tards)

    india is a shithole that has become the land of hopelessness the smart people leave india none of them can win a debate against a devil god like u jaideep

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    1. Maya grasit people never knows the truth of Tridev and India.😁😂

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    2. INdia was named after Indra not the indus river. It is indra who destroyed 199 citadels

      Suryadev was namard infront of Indra so was that bitch Vishnuji

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    3. 1.The ancient vedic advance science mentioned that the moon's diameter is twice than the sun's diameter.

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    4. Atharva Walia - So - Atharva Walia, Its just arrogance, but remember Lord Shiva is Lord of destruction also. Lord Shiva destroys Arrogance, ego, Evil, darkness, demons and could kill any celestial cosmic immortal being like destroyed Kamdeva & Kaal into ashes by fire from his 3rd eye. That’s why it’s stated in Vedas, that nobody could Maharudra (Lord Shiva), nobody is mightier than Lord Shiva and Lord Shiva is Almighty, only Immortal being. Thats why in Vedas, only Lord Shiva is referred as Param Brahman, Param Purusha, Param Ishwara, Maheshwara, Bhagwan.
      Their are lots of people acting just like Daksha, Lord Shiva even punished Lord Brahma & his son Daksha Prajapati. Nobody no mighty power, not even Lord Vishnu himself was able to save Daksha Prajapati from wrath of Lord Shiva. Remember Daksha Prajapati was killed by Veer Bhadhra, who originated from one jata of Lord Shiva and Veer Bhadhra alone punished all Devtas, Daksha Prajapati, Kaal, Brahma, Narayana and many others.
      So you - Atharva Walia is just a tiny Pigshit, you are just abusing Almighty Supreme Reality ( LORD SHIVA), you are again & again doing biggest sin by admiring your Greater Grand Father - Arjuna. Most importantly, Arjuna himself did very long & hard penance of Lord Shiva, was begging Maha-Pashupatastra from Lord Shiva.
      Their is no one in all Universes, who could stand Lord Shiva, even everyone stand one 1-side, still Lord Shiva could eat everything & everyone in less than blink of eye and when their would be time of destruction (Pralay) Lord Shiva is going to destroy Universe in less than second.
      Its clearly stated in Vedas, Greater than the great is Brahma, Greater than Great Brahma is Vishnu and Greater than Great Vishnu is Isha (Lord Shiva).
      Moreover, in Vedas its also mentioned that Lord Brahma’s lifespan is equal to 4 inhaling of Lord Vishnu and Lord Vishnu’s lifespan is equal to 4 inhaling of Shree Rudram (Lord Shiva), only Lord Shiva (Maharudra) is Immortal. Lord Shiva never takes birth and never dies, Lord Shiva is only Immortal being, Aadi, Ananta, Unborn, Self Originated and beyond Supreme

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  19. Arjuna is equal to Shiva in physical power and warrior's skills

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    1. Atharva Walia - It looks like Arjuna took care of your Greater Grand-Mother during his high times. Thats why you are so fan of your Greater Grand-Daddy - Arjuna.
      It doesn’t mean Arjuna knocked your Greater Grand-Mommy, then Arjuna is that Mighty. Lord Shiva is Lord of Lords. Lord Shiva is Supreme Param Purusha, Param Brahman.
      You don’t have that brains due to some abnormalities in your DNA or maybe Raksha knocked your Great Grand Mothers that why your abusing Lord Shiva & other Devtas.
      But seems like admire Arjuna - Greater Grand-Daddy so much.
      Lord Shiva is Mahakaal, Maharudra, Almighty, Sovereign, Formless & also takes form, Starting of everything, end of all, Auspicious one, Nothingness, is everywhere & nowhere, Immeasurable, Infinite, Infinite Light & Infinite Darkness, Beyond Supreme and Above all. Lord Shiva is beyond your understanding, mysterious and beyond everything.
      Lord Shiva is Mahakaal, could destroy many Universes in less than blink of eye.
      So (Atharva Walia), it doesn’t matter you admire your Greater Grand Daddy - Arjuna so much and because of Abnormalities, has Danav family blood thats why hate Supreme Reality - Lord Shiva so much. Its not going to change reality, Lord Shiva is Lord of all Lords. Moreover, Lord Shiva is lord of all 3 worlds, Lord of Devtas, Asuras, Animals, Lord Shiva is Aadi, Anant , Unborn, Self Originated, Maharudra and even Lord of that God your Ancestors & your family pray all ghe time. Even Lord of ypur Greater Grand Daddy (Arjuna) and your Greater Grand-Mommy played by Arjuna.
      1st read Mahabharata, it was told by Shree Krishna, Vedvyasa & Arjuna that for many occasions Lord Shiva was killing Kaurvas. Whenever it was getting hard for Arjuna that time Lord Shiva was battling in front of Arjuna but nobody was able to see him. Arjuna himself admitted when he was talking to Ved Vyasa and also admitted that in front of Shree Krishna after war.
      Even Shree Krishna himself told that Lord Shiva was there in battlefield during Mahabharata war, whenever it was getting harder for Arjuna, Lord Shiva appeared & destroyed many Maharathi’s of Kaurvas.
      Moreover, Shree Krishna even told Arjuna that Viratroop of Param Brahman Arjuna saw was none other than Mahadeva - Lord Shiva, Shree Krishna was meditating on Lord Shiva.
      And Lord Shiva was speaker of Gita.
      Shree Krishna even told Arjuna that he is Narayana, he himself got blessed by Lord Shiva thats why he is worshipped and also got Sudarshan Chakra as boon from Lord Shiva after doing very hard penance of Lord Shiva for 60thousand years and then Narayana was ready to give away one of eye when he wasn’t able to find last (1000th-Kamal) Flower then Lord Shiva blessed Narayana, as a blessing got Sudarshan Chakra from Lord Shiva.
      Shree Krishna even told Arjuna that he himself (Lord Vishnu) & Lord Brahma wasn’t able to find Lord Shiva’s starting & ending point when at very beginning at Eternal Adobe after both of them were arguing on Superiority, Lord Shiva appeared as Jyotilingham - Pillar of Fire. Then they were told to find either starting or ending point, whoever could find it soon would be superior, that time Narayana truly admitted that nobody could find starting ot ending point of Lord Shiva, but Lord Brahma lied thats why as a punishment of lying Lord Brahma is not worshipped rather then Yagya or Penance for getting boon only. And Lord Shiva blessed Lord Vishnu thats why Lord Vishnu is worshipped, was blessed by Lord Shiva that Narayana & his all avatars incarnations would be worshipped just as Lord Shiva.
      Shree Krishna thats why he is worshipped and got Sudarshan Chakra for protection of Universe, to kill evil Asuras & evil.

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  20. Logicastra is totally fake hey guys please don't trust it

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    1. Atharva Walia - It looks like that Arjuna is your Greater Grand Daddy- who knocked one of your Greater Grand Mommy, thats why you admire your Greater Grand Daddy (Arjuna) so much.
      But remember Lord Shiva is Almighty, Sovereign, Formless & also took form, Nirgun, Sargun, Immeasurable, Infinite, Infinite Light & Infinite Darkness, Auspicious one, Nothingness, Formal Source of everyone & everything, End of everyone & everything, Param Ishwara, Param Brahman, Param Purusha & Aadi Parashakti, Formal Lord, Paramount, Maheshwara, Aadi, Ananta, Unborn, Self Originated, Ultimate, Mystical, Source of Omkara, is everywhere & nowhere, in all living being & non living beings, Lord of Lords, Beyond Supreme and above all.

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    2. So - Atharva Walia, Its just arrogance, but remember Lord Shiva is Lord of destruction also. Lord Shiva destroys Arrogance, ego, Evil, darkness, demons and could kill any celestial cosmic immortal being like destroyed Kamdeva & Kaal into ashes by fire from his 3rd eye. That’s why it’s stated in Vedas, that nobody could Maharudra (Lord Shiva), nobody is mightier than Lord Shiva and Lord Shiva is Almighty, only Immortal being. Thats why in Vedas, only Lord Shiva is referred as Param Brahman, Param Purusha, Param Ishwara, Maheshwara, Bhagwan.
      Their are lots of people acting just like Daksha, Lord Shiva even punished Lord Brahma & his son Daksha Prajapati. Nobody no mighty power, not even Lord Vishnu himself was able to save Daksha Prajapati from wrath of Lord Shiva. Remember Daksha Prajapati was killed by Veer Bhadhra, who originated from one jata of Lord Shiva and Veer Bhadhra alone punished all Devtas, Daksha Prajapati, Kaal, Brahma, Narayana and many others.
      So you - Atharva Walia is just a tiny Pigshit, you are just abusing Almighty Supreme Reality ( LORD SHIVA), you are again & again doing biggest sin by admiring your Greater Grand Father - Arjuna. Most importantly, Arjuna himself did very long & hard penance of Lord Shiva, was begging Maha-Pashupatastra from Lord Shiva.
      Their is no one in all Universes, who could stand Lord Shiva, even everyone stand one 1-side, still Lord Shiva could eat everything & everyone in less than blink of eye and when their would be time of destruction (Pralay) Lord Shiva is going to destroy Universe in less than second.
      Its clearly stated in Vedas, Greater than the great is Brahma, Greater than Great Brahma is Vishnu and Greater than Great Vishnu is Isha (Lord Shiva).
      Moreover, in Vedas its also mentioned that Lord Brahma’s lifespan is equal to 4 inhaling of Lord Vishnu and Lord Vishnu’s lifespan is equal to 4 inhaling of Shree Rudram (Lord Shiva), only Lord Shiva (Maharudra) is Immortal. Lord Shiva never takes birth and never dies, Lord Shiva is only Immortal being, Aadi, Ananta, Unborn, Self Originated and beyond Supreme.

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  21. Lol. Created by arjuna fans Lord krishna already told bhisma, drona, karna are the top 3 main warriors

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    1. is that why shakuni raped bheeshmas mother ganga like the kutti she is and then he slapped karna in the face because karna was crying when vrishasen died?

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    2. i hope that your mothers vagina gets fed to her grandfather fuck you dumbasses, kill yourselves karna tards

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    3. Atharva Walia - So - Atharva Walia, Its just arrogance, but remember Lord Shiva is Lord of destruction also. Lord Shiva destroys Arrogance, ego, Evil, darkness, demons and could kill any celestial cosmic immortal being like destroyed Kamdeva & Kaal into ashes by fire from his 3rd eye. That’s why it’s stated in Vedas, that nobody could Maharudra (Lord Shiva), nobody is mightier than Lord Shiva and Lord Shiva is Almighty, only Immortal being. Thats why in Vedas, only Lord Shiva is referred as Param Brahman, Param Purusha, Param Ishwara, Maheshwara, Bhagwan.
      Their are lots of people acting just like Daksha, Lord Shiva even punished Lord Brahma & his son Daksha Prajapati. Nobody no mighty power, not even Lord Vishnu himself was able to save Daksha Prajapati from wrath of Lord Shiva. Remember Daksha Prajapati was killed by Veer Bhadhra, who originated from one jata of Lord Shiva and Veer Bhadhra alone punished all Devtas, Daksha Prajapati, Kaal, Brahma, Narayana and many others.
      So you - Atharva Walia is just a tiny Pigshit, you are just abusing Almighty Supreme Reality ( LORD SHIVA), you are again & again doing biggest sin by admiring your Greater Grand Father - Arjuna. Most importantly, Arjuna himself did very long & hard penance of Lord Shiva, was begging Maha-Pashupatastra from Lord Shiva.
      Their is no one in all Universes, who could stand Lord Shiva, even everyone stand one 1-side, still Lord Shiva could eat everything & everyone in less than blink of eye and when their would be time of destruction (Pralay) Lord Shiva is going to destroy Universe in less than second.
      Its clearly stated in Vedas, Greater than the great is Brahma, Greater than Great Brahma is Vishnu and Greater than Great Vishnu is Isha (Lord Shiva).
      Moreover, in Vedas its also mentioned that Lord Brahma’s lifespan is equal to 4 inhaling of Lord Vishnu and Lord Vishnu’s lifespan is equal to 4 inhaling of Shree Rudram (Lord Shiva), only Lord Shiva (Maharudra) is Immortal. Lord Shiva never takes birth and never dies, Lord Shiva is only Immortal being, Aadi, Ananta, Unborn, Self Originated and beyond Supreme.

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    4. Their is no more point in having a discussion of this.

      I would like to say Arjun is superior to Hanuman but inferior to Shiva.

      However i will not delete this post as it is old, so it should stay.

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  22. Abe bewkoofon ko sardar tumpe haso ya rone lgo. Samajh mein nhi aa rhaa.

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    1. Ram was a childless eunuch and a bastard like hanumans aunty anjana

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  23. Bhai tujhe to sarvasresth paagal ka award milegaa

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  24. Abe chutiye pagal mat bana dusro ko chakke jaideep

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    1. you show racism as you hate pakistanis, arjuna, satyaki, abhimanyu all cause they kicked your ugly bheeshma pitamahs ass he was never called "mahahim" in actual authentic versions of mahabharat, you act retarded and fart alot and you ae a disgrace to the human race, your entir elife revoles around this weak ugly fart-face son of ganga called Bhishma, he got his ass kicked by king virat, prince Dhrishtadyumn, prince Satyaki but you refuse to see it, you are only skilled in spamming and farting the first time u masturbated was when you saw a photo of bhishma, you beg me to delete this post and blog but you dont ask any karna tard to delete their posts about arjuna, bhima, satyaki etc, you are showing your biasedness and hypocrisy your unwillingness to accept any flaws in your argument, claim, reasoning, your bhishma supported slavery and was ugly like your father with a 2 inch dick, all indians have small penises because of the bad inbred genes that namard like u spread kill yourself

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  25. Lode kutte teri mummy ko kutte chodenge

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    1. you show racism as you hate pakistanis, arjuna, satyaki, abhimanyu all cause they kicked your ugly bheeshma pitamahs ass he was never called "mahahim" in actual authentic versions of mahabharat, you act retarded and fart alot and you ae a disgrace to the human race, your entir elife revoles around this weak ugly fart-face son of ganga called Bhishma, he got his ass kicked by king virat, prince Dhrishtadyumn, prince Satyaki but you refuse to see it, you are only skilled in spamming and farting the first time u masturbated was when you saw a photo of bhishma, you beg me to delete this post and blog but you dont ask any karna tard to delete their posts about arjuna, bhima, satyaki etc, you are showing your biasedness and hypocrisy your unwillingness to accept any flaws in your argument, claim, reasoning, your bhishma supported slavery and was ugly like your father with a 2 inch dick, all indians have small penises because of the bad inbred genes that namard like u spread kill yourself

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    2. So - Atharva Walia, Its just arrogance, but remember Lord Shiva is Lord of destruction also. Lord Shiva destroys Arrogance, ego, Evil, darkness, demons and could kill any celestial cosmic immortal being like destroyed Kamdeva & Kaal into ashes by fire from his 3rd eye. That’s why it’s stated in Vedas, that nobody could Maharudra (Lord Shiva), nobody is mightier than Lord Shiva and Lord Shiva is Almighty, only Immortal being. Thats why in Vedas, only Lord Shiva is referred as Param Brahman, Param Purusha, Param Ishwara, Maheshwara, Bhagwan.
      Their are lots of people acting just like Daksha, Lord Shiva even punished Lord Brahma & his son Daksha Prajapati. Nobody no mighty power, not even Lord Vishnu himself was able to save Daksha Prajapati from wrath of Lord Shiva. Remember Daksha Prajapati was killed by Veer Bhadhra, who originated from one jata of Lord Shiva and Veer Bhadhra alone punished all Devtas, Daksha Prajapati, Kaal, Brahma, Narayana and many others.
      So you - Atharva Walia is just a tiny Pigshit, you are just abusing Almighty Supreme Reality ( LORD SHIVA), you are again & again doing biggest sin by admiring your Greater Grand Father - Arjuna. Most importantly, Arjuna himself did very long & hard penance of Lord Shiva, was begging Maha-Pashupatastra from Lord Shiva.
      Their is no one in all Universes, who could stand Lord Shiva, even everyone stand one 1-side, still Lord Shiva could eat everything & everyone in less than blink of eye and when their would be time of destruction (Pralay) Lord Shiva is going to destroy Universe in less than second.
      Its clearly stated in Vedas, Greater than the great is Brahma, Greater than Great Brahma is Vishnu and Greater than Great Vishnu is Isha (Lord Shiva).
      Moreover, in Vedas its also mentioned that Lord Brahma’s lifespan is equal to 4 inhaling of Lord Vishnu and Lord Vishnu’s lifespan is equal to 4 inhaling of Shree Rudram (Lord Shiva), only Lord Shiva (Maharudra) is Immortal. Lord Shiva never takes birth and never dies, Lord Shiva is only Immortal being, Aadi, Ananta, Unborn, Self Originated and beyond Supreme.

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  26. Beta sunle tu bhram mein ji rhaa hai. Reality mein aaa jara.

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    1. Jab tak har indian kee maut nay hoti tab tak may reality may nay ounga

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    2. well everyone dies eventually whether that is krishna, ram , parshuram, shree arjun, shree bheem, shree satyaki and the brave tiger sisupalji IF TELLING THE TRUTH MEANS YOU WILL KILL ME then i am happy to tribute my life in the name of dharma, facts, and putting a weak warrior like hanuman in his place by beating up his ugly fat mother anjana and shoving ladoos in the ass of hanumana! till my last breath i will respect SISUPAL AND SATYAKI OVER NAMARD HANUTATI jai SHREE SISUPAL! JAI SHREE SUGREEV!

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    3. Atharva Walia - It looks like Arjuna took care of your Greater Grand-Mother during his high times. Thats why you are so fan of your Greater Grand-Daddy - Arjuna.
      It doesn’t mean Arjuna knocked your Greater Grand-Mommy, then Arjuna is that Mighty. Lord Shiva is Lord of Lords. Lord Shiva is Supreme Param Purusha, Param Brahman.
      You don’t have that brains due to some abnormalities in your DNA or maybe Raksha knocked your Great Grand Mothers that why your abusing Lord Shiva & other Devtas.
      But seems like admire Arjuna - Greater Grand-Daddy so much.
      Lord Shiva is Mahakaal, Maharudra, Almighty, Sovereign, Formless & also takes form, Starting of everything, end of all, Auspicious one, Nothingness, is everywhere & nowhere, Immeasurable, Infinite, Infinite Light & Infinite Darkness, Beyond Supreme and Above all. Lord Shiva is beyond your understanding, mysterious and beyond everything.
      Lord Shiva is Mahakaal, could destroy many Universes in less than blink of eye.
      So (Atharva Walia), it doesn’t matter you admire your Greater Grand Daddy - Arjuna so much and because of Abnormalities, has Danav family blood thats why hate Supreme Reality - Lord Shiva so much. Its not going to change reality, Lord Shiva is Lord of all Lords. Moreover, Lord Shiva is lord of all 3 worlds, Lord of Devtas, Asuras, Animals, Lord Shiva is Aadi, Anant , Unborn, Self Originated, Maharudra and even Lord of that God your Ancestors & your family pray all ghe time. Even Lord of ypur Greater Grand Daddy (Arjuna) and your Greater Grand-Mommy played by Arjuna.
      1st read Mahabharata, it was told by Shree Krishna, Vedvyasa & Arjuna that for many occasions Lord Shiva was killing Kaurvas. Whenever it was getting hard for Arjuna that time Lord Shiva was battling in front of Arjuna but nobody was able to see him. Arjuna himself admitted when he was talking to Ved Vyasa and also admitted that in front of Shree Krishna after war.
      Even Shree Krishna himself told that Lord Shiva was there in battlefield during Mahabharata war, whenever it was getting harder for Arjuna, Lord Shiva appeared & destroyed many Maharathi’s of Kaurvas.
      Moreover, Shree Krishna even told Arjuna that Viratroop of Param Brahman Arjuna saw was none other than Mahadeva - Lord Shiva, Shree Krishna was meditating on Lord Shiva.
      And Lord Shiva was speaker of Gita.
      Shree Krishna even told Arjuna that he is Narayana, he himself got blessed by Lord Shiva thats why he is worshipped and also got Sudarshan Chakra as boon from Lord Shiva after doing very hard penance of Lord Shiva for 60thousand years and then Narayana was ready to give away one of eye when he wasn’t able to find last (1000th-Kamal) Flower then Lord Shiva blessed Narayana, as a blessing got Sudarshan Chakra from Lord Shiva.
      Shree Krishna even told Arjuna that he himself (Lord Vishnu) & Lord Brahma wasn’t able to find Lord Shiva’s starting & ending point when at very beginning at Eternal Adobe after both of them were arguing on Superiority, Lord Shiva appeared as Jyotilingham - Pillar of Fire. Then they were told to find either starting or ending point, whoever could find it soon would be superior, that time Narayana truly admitted that nobody could find starting ot ending point of Lord Shiva, but Lord Brahma lied thats why as a punishment of lying Lord Brahma is not worshipped rather then Yagya or Penance for getting boon only. And Lord Shiva blessed Lord Vishnu thats why Lord Vishnu is worshipped, was blessed by Lord Shiva that Narayana & his all avatars incarnations would be worshipped just as Lord Shiva.
      Shree Krishna thats why he is worshipped and got Sudarshan Chakra for protection of Universe, to kill evil Asuras & evil.

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  27. When it said Arjuna punched Shiva as fiercly as Indra's Vajra it makes me wonder a few things:
    1. Since Indra's Vajra hurt the throat of Shiva why didnt Shiva suffer as much from Arjuna's punches? Maybe because Shiva trained his body to become stronger.

    2. Indra's Vajra defeated Hanuman in one shot so Arjuna should one-shot Hanuman if he just punches him.

    3. Arjuna clearly did defeat 8 forms of Shiva as per Dhritarashtra so Arjuna is better than Shiva as a warrior.

    4. Lastly Arjuna punching Shiva reminds me exactly of how Guts from Berserk (anime) punched down Griffith in their second fight during the 1990s anime.

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    1. So - Atharva Walia, Its just arrogance, but remember Lord Shiva is Lord of destruction also. Lord Shiva destroys Arrogance, ego, Evil, darkness, demons and could kill any celestial cosmic immortal being like destroyed Kamdeva & Kaal into ashes by fire from his 3rd eye. That’s why it’s stated in Vedas, that nobody could Maharudra (Lord Shiva), nobody is mightier than Lord Shiva and Lord Shiva is Almighty, only Immortal being. Thats why in Vedas, only Lord Shiva is referred as Param Brahman, Param Purusha, Param Ishwara, Maheshwara, Bhagwan.
      Their are lots of people acting just like Daksha, Lord Shiva even punished Lord Brahma & his son Daksha Prajapati. Nobody no mighty power, not even Lord Vishnu himself was able to save Daksha Prajapati from wrath of Lord Shiva. Remember Daksha Prajapati was killed by Veer Bhadhra, who originated from one jata of Lord Shiva and Veer Bhadhra alone punished all Devtas, Daksha Prajapati, Kaal, Brahma, Narayana and many others.
      So you - Atharva Walia is just a tiny Pigshit, you are just abusing Almighty Supreme Reality ( LORD SHIVA), you are again & again doing biggest sin by admiring your Greater Grand Father - Arjuna. Most importantly, Arjuna himself did very long & hard penance of Lord Shiva, was begging Maha-Pashupatastra from Lord Shiva.
      Their is no one in all Universes, who could stand Lord Shiva, even everyone stand one 1-side, still Lord Shiva could eat everything & everyone in less than blink of eye and when their would be time of destruction (Pralay) Lord Shiva is going to destroy Universe in less than second.
      Its clearly stated in Vedas, Greater than the great is Brahma, Greater than Great Brahma is Vishnu and Greater than Great Vishnu is Isha (Lord Shiva).
      Moreover, in Vedas its also mentioned that Lord Brahma’s lifespan is equal to 4 inhaling of Lord Vishnu and Lord Vishnu’s lifespan is equal to 4 inhaling of Shree Rudram (Lord Shiva), only Lord Shiva (Maharudra) is Immortal. Lord Shiva never takes birth and never dies, Lord Shiva is only Immortal being, Aadi, Ananta, Unborn, Self Originated and beyond Supreme.

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  31. t is true Arjuna is powerful than Tridev

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  34. So - Atharva Walia, Its just arrogance, but remember Lord Shiva is Lord of destruction also. Lord Shiva destroys Arrogance, ego, Evil, darkness, demons and could kill any celestial cosmic immortal being like destroyed Kamdeva & Kaal into ashes by fire from his 3rd eye. That’s why it’s stated in Vedas, that nobody could Maharudra (Lord Shiva), nobody is mightier than Lord Shiva and Lord Shiva is Almighty, only Immortal being. Thats why in Vedas, only Lord Shiva is referred as Param Brahman, Param Purusha, Param Ishwara, Maheshwara, Bhagwan.
    Their are lots of people acting just like Daksha, Lord Shiva even punished Lord Brahma & his son Daksha Prajapati. Nobody no mighty power, not even Lord Vishnu himself was able to save Daksha Prajapati from wrath of Lord Shiva. Remember Daksha Prajapati was killed by Veer Bhadhra, who originated from one jata of Lord Shiva and Veer Bhadhra alone punished all Devtas, Daksha Prajapati, Kaal, Brahma, Narayana and many others.
    So you - Atharva Walia is just a tiny Pigshit, you are just abusing Almighty Supreme Reality ( LORD SHIVA), you are again & again doing biggest sin by admiring your Greater Grand Father - Arjuna. Most importantly, Arjuna himself did very long & hard penance of Lord Shiva, was begging Maha-Pashupatastra from Lord Shiva.
    Their is no one in all Universes, who could stand Lord Shiva, even everyone stand one 1-side, still Lord Shiva could eat everything & everyone in less than blink of eye and when their would be time of destruction (Pralay) Lord Shiva is going to destroy Universe in less than second.
    Its clearly stated in Vedas, Greater than the great is Brahma, Greater than Great Brahma is Vishnu and Greater than Great Vishnu is Isha (Lord Shiva).
    Moreover, in Vedas its also mentioned that Lord Brahma’s lifespan is equal to 4 inhaling of Lord Vishnu and Lord Vishnu’s lifespan is equal to 4 inhaling of Shree Rudram (Lord Shiva), only Lord Shiva (Maharudra) is Immortal. Lord Shiva never takes birth and never dies, Lord Shiva is only Immortal being, Aadi, Ananta, Unborn, Self Originated and beyond Supreme.

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  35. Nobody could defeat Lord Shiva. Lord Shiva is Supreme Lord of all Lords. Lord Shiva is Almighty, Sovereign, Formless & also took Form, Nirgun & also Sargun, Auspicious one, Is everywhere & also nowhere, Nothingness, Paramount, Farmal Lord - Formal source of everything & all including Lord Vishnu & Lord Brahma, End of all including Lord Vishnu & Lord Brahma they both get dissolves into Lord Shiva during destruction, Infinite, Infinite Light & Infinite Darkness, Immeasurable, Ultimate truth, Beyond Supreme and above all.

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    1. It was not muslims that looted hindus, it was LORD SHIVA himself that massacred the hindus he took the form of Muslims

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  36. The most popular Indian Astrologer Pandit Sairam Ji in California serves his followers across the globe.
    astrologer in canada

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  37. I went through a few scriptures on sacred-text, it's a horrible reference and bad translations.

    So if you're going to give some actual references, at least search them up at archive.org.

    Also, put the full references, a bunch are not given properly.

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    1. U should say that to fans of karna at facebook instead who also claim to use 'sacred text' regardless i would rather choose sacred text over lund chooser tv serials like starplus mahabharat & dharmakshetra.

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