Intro - this post is my attempt to solve the age factor, to make it make a little bit more sense. Because these 5 character's (Sahastrarjun, Ravan, Ram, Vishwamitr, Parshurama) are all superior to namard Hanuman & deserve fanclubs but they never get the respect they deserve.
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Age difference of Vishwamitra, Parshuram & Ravan.
How old are Vishwamitra, Jamdagni and Satyavati compared to Sahastrarjun?
Vishwamitra's dad (Gadhiraja) was already born and a successful Maharaj in his own right during Sahastrarjun's reign;
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"And at this very time there lived on the earth a mighty monarch in the land of Kanyakuvja, a sovereign whose military force was exceedingly great. And his name of Gadhi was famous in the world."
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Gadhiraj already decided to retire before his daughter was born (he likely already had sons older than Vishwamitra to succeed him to the throne).
"He, however, betook himself to a forest-life. And while he was dwelling in the midst of the wood, there was born to him a daughter beautiful as a nymph of heaven. And Richika, the son of Bhrigu, asked for her to be united with himself in marriage."
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Logic - this meant Gadhi spent at least 11 years in the forest, (one alone, as nine month's would pass for a baby's birth, and i dont think Satyavati would be under the age of ten before getting married).
Richika's wife was Gadhiraj's daughter.
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"Gadhi had a daughter, O monarch, of the name of Satyavati."
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Gadhiraj's wife could still have kids.
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"And there upon she asked for his favour in this, that a son might be born to both herself and her mother. And he vouchsafed the favour thus asked for."
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Logic; this's from after Satyavati's marriage, she calls her "mother" meaning she first gave birth to satyavati, then 10 or 11 years later Vishwamitr was born.
An adult Sahastrarjun begin's committing atrocities.
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Grown resistless by the virtue of a granted boon, he ever mounted on that car, trampled upon gods and Yakshas and saints on all sides round. And all the born beings wheresoever placed, were harassed by him.
The celestials and the rishis, met together, speaking to Vishnu, the god of gods, the slayer of demons, and possessed of prowess that never failed, saying.
"O blessed and revered lord, for the purpose of preserving all the born beings, it is necessary that Arjuna should be killed by thee."
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Logic; this's from before Satyavati was born.
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Vishwamitr's nephew (they were the same age) is born;
"Then she brought forth on the expected day a son by name Jamadagni. And this son of Bhrigu was endowed with both splendour and grace. And he grew in years and in strength, and excelled he other saints in the proficiency of his Vaidik lore. O chieftain of Bharata's race, to him, rivalling in lustre the author of light (the sun), came spontaneously and without instruction the knowledge of the entire military art and of the fourfold missile arms."
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Comment - to master all of this would take time, he should be at least 16 in age.
What Jamdagni had completed before Parshuram's birth;
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"Jamadagni devoted himself to the study of the Veda and the practice of sacred penances, and became famous for his great austerities. Then he pursued a methodical course of study and obtained a mastery over the entire Veda. And, O king, he paid a visit to Prasenajit and solicited the hand of Renuka in marriage. And this prayer was granted by the king."
"And the delight of Bhrigu's race having thus obtained Renuka for his wife, took his residence with her in a hermitage, and began to practice penances, being assisted by her. And four boys were born of her, with Rama for the fifth. And although the youngest, Rama was superior to all in merit."
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Who Parshuram's brothers were;
"At that very moment came in the eldest of Jamadagni's sons, Rumanvan; and then, Sushena, and then, Vasu, and likewise, Viswavasu. And the mighty saint directed them all one by one to put an end to the life of their mother."
That mean's at least 2 decades passed by again, till Parshurama can grow up.
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What parshuram did before fighting Sahastrarjun.
He had to perform tapasya TWICE.
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"Practising the austerest penances, of cheerful soul, bound to observances and vows, and keeping his senses under control, he gratified the god Bhava for obtaining weapons."
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"With penances then, and restraining his senses, and observances of vows, and worship and offerings and with sacrifices and Homa performed with mantras, Rama adored Sarva for many long years. At last Mahadeva, pleased with the high-souled son of Bhrigu's race, described him, in the presence of his divine spouse, as possessed of many virtues."
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Hypothesis;
If Sahastrarjun is 18 yrs old when Gadhiraj begot Satyavati as a daughter.
Then Satyavati was 10 when she married Richika, meaning Sahastrarjun is 28.
Jamdagni came in to the world and Satyavati was 11 years old.
Vishwamitr succeeded Gadhiraja's throne pretty early but he's just as old as Parshuram's dad.
Jamdagni marries Renuka when he's 17 at least (in age).
4 son's were born to Jamdagni during the span of 36 month's (three year's, every nine months a baby got born).
Sahastrarjun would be at least 49 years old when Parshurama was born.
What would Parshurama's age be when he put an end to Sahastrarjun's life?
He did tapasya to Shiva 2 times.
He killed un named daitya's and danava's in a battle.
Then he met Sahastrarjun after his father died (or after the sacred cattle got stolen).
I believe he could not have been younger than 20, and not older than 25.
For Sahastrarjun's age it would be 69 to 74 yrs. But it would be before Ram was ever born.
If Satyavati was already born before Gadhiraj retired from his throne.
- Then about 11 years can be cut off from two people's age, the youngest sahastrarjun could be is 58 year's old while Satyavati would be younger by eleven too.
- Parshuram will remain 20 to 25. Because only 2 people have their ages changed then.
- Even being 33 to 38 years apart is a huge difference for Sahastrarjun/Parshurama.
- Jamdagni would be the same age as Vishwamitr still.
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Since Parshurama was old compared to Ravan then how could Ravan fight a guy that was even older than Parshuram?
About Ravan's age;
1) He was definitely not a oldie, so his age can not be more than 50 when Ram kills him.
2) Him fighting Anarany & Mandhatri has only been mentioned in non canon source's.
3) He was clearly very young compared to king Dashrath.
4) He's mentioned as a king by Dashrath, Vishwamitra etc before Ram slew Tadka. So ravan had to have been at least 20 to 25 years (adult age) during that time.
5) Ram would be 37 at minimum when he slew Ravan.
6) After tadka's death about 27 years passed in Ram's life until the lankan war occured.
Ravan is way too young to fight Sahastrarjun and that's why people refuse to believe Uttar Kanda to be a authentic text.
What happened in between.
- Weapons were obtained by Ram from Vishwamitr.
- Seetha's Swayamvara.
- Twelve yrs in Ayodhya.
- Fourteen years of exile during the forest kanda.
He (Ravan) should be 47 years (at minimum) and 54 (maximum), why his grandchildren did not participate in the war can be defined as (they were too young to fight).
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Proving that Ram was 37 during the death of Ravan.
He was 11 when Vishwamitr made him his disciple.
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"This boy Rama is less than twelve years in his age, unproficient in the use of weapons, and if need be, whatever army of mine is there it will march on along with me instead of Rama."
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Ram spent 12 years with a wife in Ayodhya.
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"On residing in the residence of Ikshvaku-s in Ayodhya for twelve years, I was in sumptuosity of all cherishes while relishing all humanly prosperities."
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Now he's 23 so 14 more years and he is 37. My only problem is Ravan being only ten years older than him and not more years. But overall it works fine.
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