Monday, May 30, 2022

Arjuna vs Krishna who would win?

Intro - this's a fair debate and discussion, its also one of the few instances where i believe truly that Arjuna would lose. But i do not think it will be a landslide or a one sided fight, they were almost equal as fighters.
The problem for Arjuna - is even if Arjuna had equal speed, strength, reflexes, skill's as Krishna then the fact is that he is far below him in the category of intelligence.
Krishna never made dumb vow's or promises or pledges or decisions in his life.
Explanation - everyone who is a arjun fan knows that he made bad decisions in his life. The lifechoice he made to commit suicide (if he failed to kill Jayadrath) was very irrational. And he made another choice to end Yudhisthir's life on the seventeenth day, then to take his own life after insulting Yudhisthir. How is this justifiable?
Krishna as a intelligent mard never did anything like that he wasn't ridiculous.

Contrary to popular belief their are 2 versions which claim Krishna lost to Arjuna.
1st - Indonesian Translation;
[quote]
"Jarasanda, the Kaurava, Bima and Nakula and Sahadewa were all slain. Yudistira was rendered unconscious by Krishna and couldn't move. Then Krishna was challenged by Arjuna and nearly lost, and thus the god Vishnu descended from heaven. Krishna, as an avatar of Vishnu turned into Vishnu, while Arjuna, who was also an avatar of Vishnu, also turned into Vishnu. Yudistira then became conscious again, and asked Vishnu to bring back to life all those who had been slain in the fighting. Vishnu agreed, and He rained down immortality and all those who had been slain came back to life, including Jarasanda. They all then joined the festivities for Krishna's wedding."
[end]
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                Now no one can change it.
2nd
[quote]
"When all his arrows fail sri Krishna uses Sudarshan Chakra, the magical disc he obtained from Agnidev, while Arjuna realising what he is up against at this time called his Pasupat Astra."
[end]
Source: Prachanda Yadavam
Commentary - if arjun had pashupatastra here then that means this incident is after his fight with Shiva. Maybe during vana parva or udyoga parva but never before any of those.
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3rd Arjun did put hands on sri Krishna twice in Kurukshetra in order to prevent the man from killing a namard called "Bhishma" he was able to stop him from moving.
Day three
[quote]
"Partha, himself of massive and long arms, quickly ran on foot after that chief of Yadu's race possessed of massive and long arms, and seized him by his two hands. That first of all gods devoted in self, Krishna, was excited with rage. And therefore, though thus seized, Vishnu forcibly dragged Jishnu after him, like a tempest bearing away a single tree."
"The high-souled Partha, however, seizing them with great force his legs as he was proceeding at a quick pace towards Bhishma, succeeded, O king, in stopping him with difficulty at the tenth step. And when Krishna stopped, decked as he was with a beautiful garland of gold."
[End]
Day nine
[quote]
"Partha. quickly following Kesava behind, seized him by encircling him with his two arms. That best of male beings, Krishna, of eyes like lotus petals, seized by Partha, still proceeded with great speed, bearing the latter away with him."
"The mighty Partha, that slayer of hostile heroes, however, forcibly catching hold of his legs, stopped Hrishikesa with great difficulty at the tenth step. Then Arjuna his dear friend, filled with sorrow, affectionately addressed Kesava, who was then sighing like a snake and whose eyes were troubled in wrath."
[end]
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The worst moments in both their lives.
Krishna let Rukmini get beat up when muni Durvasa came.
Arjuna let Draupadi get abused by prince Duhsasana.

Quote to prove the Durvasa conflict;
"Brahmana blazed with effulgence like fire, and struck, in my presence, my Rukmini endued with youth, as if she were an animal destined to drag the cars of human beings. Beholding this, I did not feel the slightest grief born of malice or the desire to injure the Rishi. Indeed, having yoked Rukmini to the car, he went out, desirous of proceeding along the high road of the city."
[End]
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Arjuna would lose to sri Krishna but it would be a very hard battle. Arjuna was very near Krishna in power.
His best weapon (Sammohan Astra) is not in Krishna's arsenal.
I believe Krishna would win this fight but it wont be a land slide or a mismatch as most people think.

2 comments:

  1. As per Mahabharata Krishna -
    1. killed the demons Arishta, Keshi and Putana.
    2. Lifted the Govardhan hill.
    3. Killed Kamsa, king of Mathura
    4. Defeated Rukmi and abducted Rukmini.
    5. Killed Shishupala during Rajasuya.
    6. Killed Shalva and destroyed his flying city.
    7. Defeated various Gods during Khandava Daha along with Arjuna.
    8. Killed hundreds Nagas, Danavas and Daityas during Khandava Daha.
    9. Killed Ekalavya in battle.
    10. Killed Narakasura and Mura in battle.
    11. Killed the king of pandyas in battle.
    12. Defeated the Kalingans.
    13. Brought the Parijata tree from Indra's residence to Dwaraka.
    14. Married the daughter of King of Gandhara after defeating many kings at the Swayamvara.
    15. Conquered many kingdoms including Anga, Vanga, Magadha, kosala, Kashi, Trigarta, Kamboja etc according to Dhritarashtra.

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    1. their is no point in mentioning this when krishna was already declared the winner of the fictional debaTE

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